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why is the ability to modify the amount of email so poor?

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I just finished reading other people complaining about the popu to "purge deleted items"

I concur! in fact I find this so disgusting I am considering leaving thunderbird as a email client.

I reallly love that linux, mac, and windows ...no matter the OS I can get a same client, similiar experience (I use different laptops when as a tech repairing servers, to machines.

I have even myself had data lost, personal communications with family who died, things I quite cared about and (yes I have backups) but this push to make the client work better by limiting data, imposing order, and cleanliness is moronic..dangerous, and I do see that the quotas and options for data do not really work, this merely seems to help performance and keep most recent email but absolutely ruins any real longterm archiving (email is not meant to be longterm, or a "archive" ...I know I say this too) maybe we need to adjust software for the way people want it? the way people live? and not how we designate it to be used? (you do not like ,,write your own, I know).. if this trend to increase performance by cutting and crippling old email (what if I want 40 gig of email ?) .. maybe a better interface for holding, packaging and backing up, and restoring email?? heck a schedular to bump it out to google drive? I recently found a proggie that does this for my cellphone, contacts, sms, options, apps, which apps,,, gotta say that in thunderbird would be amazing? (restore from cloud backup, backup to cloud)?? I love thunderbird and hope some development can happen to smooth this out? Thankyou! (I used to try and use the gmail and yahoo folders like this also and leave only copies ,,,)

I just finished reading other people complaining about the popu to "purge deleted items" I concur! in fact I find this so disgusting I am considering leaving thunderbird as a email client. I reallly love that linux, mac, and windows ...no matter the OS I can get a same client, similiar experience (I use different laptops when as a tech repairing servers, to machines. I have even myself had data lost, personal communications with family who died, things I quite cared about and (yes I have backups) but this push to make the client work better by limiting data, imposing order, and cleanliness is moronic..dangerous, and I do see that the quotas and options for data do not really work, this merely seems to help performance and keep most recent email but absolutely ruins any real longterm archiving (email is not meant to be longterm, or a "archive" ...I know I say this too) maybe we need to adjust software for the way people want it? the way people live? and not how we designate it to be used? (you do not like ,,write your own, I know).. if this trend to increase performance by cutting and crippling old email (what if I want 40 gig of email ?) .. maybe a better interface for holding, packaging and backing up, and restoring email?? heck a schedular to bump it out to google drive? I recently found a proggie that does this for my cellphone, contacts, sms, options, apps, which apps,,, gotta say that in thunderbird would be amazing? (restore from cloud backup, backup to cloud)?? I love thunderbird and hope some development can happen to smooth this out? Thankyou! (I used to try and use the gmail and yahoo folders like this also and leave only copies ,,,)

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I just finished reading other people complaining about the popu to "purge deleted items" I concur! in fact I find this so disgusting I am considering leaving thunderbird as a email client.

See https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1332109

this push to make the client work better by limiting data, imposing order, and cleanliness is moronic..dangerous

Not sure what you're talking about.

I do see that the quotas and options for data do not really work

I'm not going to guess what that means. If you do have a problem you'd need to be more specific about it.

this trend to increase performance by cutting and crippling old email

Thunderbird does neither cutting nor crippling old email.

what if I want 40 gig of email ?

There is nothing which prevents you from doing that.

maybe a better interface for holding, packaging and backing up, and restoring email?

Take a look at the archiving function. https://support.mozilla.org/kb/archived-messages

Wrt backup, it's as simple as copying a folder. The problem is that many folks just don't do it in the first place. https://support.mozilla.org/kb/profiles-where-thunderbird-stores-user-data#w_backing-up-a-profile

heck a schedular to bump it out to google drive?

That would be the last thing I'd want. There are tons of backup programs out there though. Pick one which fits your needs.

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I just finished reading other people complaining about the popu to "purge deleted items" I concur! in fact I find this so disgusting I am considering leaving thunderbird as a email client.

See https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1332109

this push to make the client work better by limiting data, imposing order, and cleanliness is moronic..dangerous

Not sure what you're talking about.

I do see that the quotas and options for data do not really work

I'm not going to guess what that means. If you do have a problem you'd need to be more specific about it.

this trend to increase performance by cutting and crippling old email

Thunderbird does neither cutting nor crippling old email.

what if I want 40 gig of email ?

There is nothing which prevents you from doing that.

maybe a better interface for holding, packaging and backing up, and restoring email?

Take a look at the archiving function. https://support.mozilla.org/kb/archived-messages

Wrt backup, it's as simple as copying a folder. The problem is that many folks just don't do it in the first place. https://support.mozilla.org/kb/profiles-where-thunderbird-stores-user-data#w_backing-up-a-profile

heck a schedular to bump it out to google drive?

That would be the last thing I'd want. There are tons of backup programs out there though. Pick one which fits your needs.

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> I just finished reading other people complaining about the popu to "purge deleted items"

Reading your full post, seems like you've got yourself worked up.

You don't provide a link to the other postings, but the answer to those posts, like this answer here, is the "purge" does not delete messages - it removes the "vacated space" that had been occupied by deleted and moved messages.

What does this mean?

  • It does not delete messages from folders
  • It does not remove messages from trash or spam folders
  • It does not compress folders by using compression algorithms such as zip

So for example - you deleted message X, Y and Z from Inbox. That inbox has accumulated vacated space that was message X, Y and Z and those areas are no longer accessible to you - these messages are no longer in the Inbox. (They might be in Trash - but purge does not touch messages in Trash)

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Just to reiterate, the Compact dialog represents normal activity, and does not delete messages - it just wisely cleans up space from messages that you, yourself, previously deleted, and does not touch the Trash folder.

The language of the compact dialog has been greatly improved for version 91, which comes out in several weeks.