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Windows 10. Thunderbird 115.8.0 While trying to figure out why my taskbar badge says I have 99+ unread emails (for the record, I only have 7), I hovered over the tray icon, and it says I have over 4 billion (with a B!) unread emails. That's not even possible with the email address I'm using it for. Why would this be like this, and how do I get it to be accurate?

Scenario: I have two E-Mails configured in thunderbird. For simplicity, let's assume they are: `alice@gmail.com` and `bob@cock.li` .

I have configured both via SMTP, and they are *totally different* SMTP servers (Gmail vs. cock.li)

If I compose a message from "alice@gmail.com" to "bob@cock.li", then when I reply from Bob's inbox in Thunderbird, everything is OK.

However, if I compose a message from "alice@gmail.com" to "bob.extra@cock.li", using the `.` alias feature of cock.li, then although Bob gets the message in his inbox, clicking "Reply" will actually set "From" as "alice@gmail.com" and "To" as "bob.extra@cock.li" !

To be very clear: this happens when clicking reply in Bob's inbox in Thunderbird.

I think this is a Thunderbird issue because:

• It happens even if I compose the E-Mail from Alice's webmail (i.e. Browser) (Note: Alice still exists in Thunderbird)
• It DOES NOT happen if Alice DOES NOT exist in Thunderbird
• It DOES NOT happen if I try and reply as Bob via cock.li's webmail (i.e. Browser)

My guess is somehow when Thunderbird sees both Alice and Bob as valid accounts in Thunderbird, but the recipient was an aliased version of Bob, it somehow gets confused.

Here are example received headers for an actual demo I tried. (poiasd@saxrag.com is main E-Mail, abuse@saxrag.com is an alias. poiasdpoiasd@cock.li is the sender)

``` Return-Path: <poiasdpoiasd@cock.li> Delivered-To: poiasd@saxrag.com Received: from mail.saxrag.com by vps-2395d3b9.vps.ovh.net with LMTP id Ujt4LrxzMGbCCBAA3wKhXw (envelope-from <poiasdpoiasd@cock.li>) for <poiasd@saxrag.com>; Tue, 30 Apr 2024 04:29:48 +0000 Authentication-Results: mail.saxrag.com; dkim=permerror header.d=cock.li header.i=@cock.li header.a=rsa-sha1 header.s=mail header.b=JEr8eBKM; dkim-atps=neutral Received: from mail.cock.li (mail.cock.li [37.120.193.123]) by mail.saxrag.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0E8C43C03 for <abuse@saxrag.com>; Tue, 30 Apr 2024 04:29:48 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cock.li; s=mail; t=1714454824; bh=srzi4nIgmpT6bW/cD6Um2I0qdwT33DsnyzueIPNTpP0=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=JEr8eBKMA14h1Cxa9V/VRXI4HW9N2jgxJRoLqt7JGONFuPPGOeOH8RYV3+OjkpnIw d/gN5oVnmP0UvUrDkslxvmypeG8qt5NHSSQ2wk5I65iqx+soYPJ8imYYBTu4b1VhHk kTQErXT23hsZwLHoXSHlpnBQYpuuY7uHZXYacEAxVjzZ46ICNc1xDX/iAaA/DIF79h iwZMJT1+Gs3+jh7mnbU+fp0vJA+eafp8z+OXELLEMTWBtkp1imXKjig5X/k3DXAG7a jqeff2obhLKPV39BtxbaXIxVsRmECwSZ7/O2fhqRC9FIFVepH5FQpZFXG5hqJ07WCa GhumeUysmhJxw== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII;

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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2024 13:27:03 +0800 From: poiasdpoiasd@cock.li To: abuse@saxrag.com Subject: Sending from WebMail User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.4.15 Message-ID: <07a14e0d75a83f779ade6de65c42db83@cock.li> X-Sender: poiasdpoiasd@cock.li ```

I have been using TB for years. I just discovered this morning on my W11 system, that in my message filters labeled "head hunters" that individual domain names are being deleted. This is on top of having to run rules manually to get them to take effect.

Let me be clear: I capture email address and strip them to domain name, add them to the list called "headhunters" and have that set up for ending with. This way I don't have to have one for each person from that entity that contacts me. So I had at the end of last week, something like 20 entries. Today, I have maybe 10.

I have been going through many reports and I am seeing similar complaints about rule elements going away, and I even got the impression one person was having Rule sets get deleted (Rule set would be a Name, which then has individual rows to act on).

I have folders that have been defined to have removal of all email older than, say, 30 days. I have my inbox rule that gets rid of all emails over 400 days old.

Can this set of processes somehow be in conflict so that Thunderbird is deleting elements in rule sets?

I have used Thunderbird for more than 15 years and have always liked the way it works and promote it to anyone needing an email client, but the latest version 115 Super Nova is terrible. I don't like the font or anything in the update. Now I just found a new problem. Since last update messages show all previous messages from same sender with current message at the bottom of list. I have looked for a way to change this but have not found anything. It used to work so good and now it sucks.

Hi, Left post outlining TBird 115.x issues but I am the issue for the 'search' woes. The upper section simply needed to be shrunk - became a 2-headed arrow [when I figured it out.] Wonder whether other problems are also blatantly simply.

Hi, I am looking for some help. I am using Windows 10, Comcast internet, and a VPN. I get error message when my VPN is on saying that my IP Address has bee blacklisted and I can not send or receive emails using Thunderbird. I also get an error within Thunderbird. My VPN Service says its either Comcast or Thunderbird. Been working with Comcast on the issue. Could it be a Thunderbird issue? My VPN Service says to reinstall Thunderbird but no guaranties that will help. Please let me know if there are any solutions I can try. Otherwise I may need to pay more for a dedicated IP Address. Thanks Marc

not sure if this is where i should be but i tried the Thunderbird help and got no answer. After the most recent Thunderbird up date and a Thunderbird install over existing one when i go to my drafts folder and click on any draft or save message in there i get a yellow bar at the bottom of the page that i have never seen before . Now i do not want recreate a new profile and lose all my contacts book marks add on etc. how do i remove that yellow bar in Thunderbird mail

Questions like this have already been asked, but I didn't find a proposed solution I'd like, and none of the threads are still open for comment. I guess this question should be considered as an enhancement request.

Our small association has about 600 contacts, which have to be divided into several mailing lists, for two reasons: 1) Service providers limit the number of contacts per mailing and per hour or day.

Perhaps, a future version of Thunderbird could have autiomation that sends long address or mailing lists as batches of 50 (for example), with a suitable time interval between batches. Presently, these repetitive mailings have to be done manually, which leads to errors, of which the worst is forgetting to put the addresses in the Bcc field (which can't be set as default).

2) Our members have various non-exclusive functions and activities, such as committee member or participant in different activities, so that a given contact might appear in more than one mailing list.

Manually constructing these mailing lists, for example by drag and drop, is tedious to say the least. So would it be possible to provide a means of selecting contacts for a given list as a function of contact data? For some purposes this could be simply the position in the alphabet of peoples' names. We would use in addition the 'custom properties' fields (which seem to be limited to 4 when manually editing a contact). While this approach is identical to the one we use routinely with spreadsheets, I'm aware that spreadsheets are or should be banned for managing lists of contact data.

I sent an email with multiple BCCs and no CCs or TOs, I put myself as one of the BCCs.

I did not receive it and I do not think anybody else did as well since I asked a few people.

The email is in the sent folder. I tried forwarding the email from my sent folder to myself as CC, and that worked. I also tried fowarding as BCC, and that worked.

So what is going on? Is BCC working? How can I know for certain? Do I need to foward the email as BCCs to all my BCCs to get this to work?

Thanks for your help.

Searching, nowhere to enter data; I cannot see attachments, looses mail, I have neuromuscular disease, hard to drag; context text EXTREMELY small. I think you all should create a TEXT BOOK [phone book size] on how to use. thanx!

when I select "get messages" from thunderbird, the system opens the email and reads and notes many messages then sends a message to me saying what it had done, one line per message. Then it does nothing. There is no listing lof messages sent. There is nothing.

If you have an idea about what to do, send it it cwskbenz@verizon.net. I will receive it on my cell phone which gets a copy of each message sent to my PC. regards, Bill Benz

Hello. I have an iCloud e-mail address registered in my Thunderbird mail manager and it was working fine since I initiated it with Thunderbird about 3 months ago. In setting it up, I had to log-in to my AppleID and ask for an "App-specific-password", which I did back when I set it up. Strangely, 2 days ago when I opened Thunderbird, I immediately received a small pop-up window asking that I sign-in to the imap server with the password. After trying to close this out several times, I decided to enter the app-specific-password that was provided back when I set it up. This did nothing and I continued to get the pop-up messages which inhibited me from accessing whatever iCloud e-mails I had received up to that point. I am able to cancel out the window message and if I immediately open one of my 4 other e-mail addresses also within Thunderbird, I can use them and with no issues receiving or sending. So last night, I signed into my AppleID again and asked for another app-specific-password and entered the new one into the pop-up message window related to the iCloud e-mail address on Thunderbird. This then held and I was able to receive whatever was scheduled to come in. But this morning, it is back asking for a password again and the one I received last night doesn't seem to work. Am I now going to need to obtain an app-specific-password for only the iCloud e-mail account everytime I want to access that address? And I have tried using the check-off box in the pop-up message window that provides for saving the password. It makes no difference. This is very frustrating, and I am now thinking that using this open-source manager requires advanced operational skills and time-consuming adjustments and baby-sitting of the software, which I do not have the patience for. Any guidance would be helpful and most appreciated. I moved over to this to get away from Outlook and the ever-changing updates which always seem to be driving at getting by your privacy to access web preferences and communication resources. It seems everytime Windows updates, I need to visit every privacy control and insure they are set where I want them. Thanks for any help!

When TB starts up, the only folders I can see are Recent. I can go to View/Folders and click ALL, and as soon as I move the mouse away from that menu item, it switches back to Recent. This started on version 115.09, but persists after I've "upgraded" to 115.10.1.

I've had so much trouble with 115 that I'm about ready to toss the whole thing in the garbage can. Is there an option to 'downgrade' back to 109 or earlier?

Please advise. My emails are an integral part of my business.

Thanks, engrollie

Urgent Help Please as lost ALL EMAILS - I cannot get to post in Thunderbird: 1) I've now spent 4 hours, (from what was trying to sort a 'simple' problem on the server), as I couldn't send or receive any emails, as they think I've 6.5Gb of data on it, in spite of my deleting all my emails off it. So they allowed some extra space to temp sort it again. It's been an issue for about 3mths now. But I deleted everything just the other day having confirmed that was not deleting them off my laptop and that the previously lost emails 2 yrs ago weren't still on their server.

But now checked back on my email client Thunderbird, and I've no emails. They're all GONE bar the odd few I've put into folders (I stopped using folders years back as that lost all my emails way back then!), so I'd been keeping them all in the Inbox. Although I've a few old Inbox files with previous old old emails in so I can access them if I need to. But at least their there! But now again I've just lost everything. This is such a disaster.

Over the last 2yrs it's been going OK until today. Now it's LOST ALL MY EMAILS. I'm as per usual up to my eyes and have to travel this friday for meetings next week. The last thing I needed today was this. I've lost so much data and info in those emails it's doesn't bare thinking about. From show tickets that I need, medical info and data, to flight details to all sorts of crucial data. My ONLY saving grace is that anything I've replied to, I have a copy in the sent folder.

So Please Forgive this being in Firefox, as I can't even add it to Thunderbird help area!! I've had to reset my pw too just to sign in. Sadly right now it all feels so very upsetting I'm thinking I'll have to just have to start using another email client! If every 2 yrs I lose all my emails then this is just not acceptable. I hope you can move this to the Thunderbird threads. If you do please send me a link to it so I can try and find it.

What's so upsetting is had I saved the Inbox file when I saw the 13Gb file size, a bit eariler then, I think I could have saved them. I fear though that the remote server people deleted something, that was somehow still linked to my system and that's meant they've deleted my emails off my laptop too! Terrifying! (Perhaps that is what happened before back in '22. ???) I did look at a 'Sync' settings but not sure what they did so cancelled back out of them.

Running on Win 10 Pro 64Bit i7core 8Gb Ram Thunderbird 115.10.1 (64-bit)

Any and all help will be most gratefully received.

Sub issue to get help : 2) Error to Sumbit to Thunderbird: Sadly I've gone around and around your system saying Ask Question when nothing answers my query on the Thunderbird email questions. But when you click on Ask Question it just takes you back around the system again / Browse all Programs / re click on thunderbird/ reclick on Emails and back to list of FAQ's but nothing helps so click on Get Help and back around you go in a deja vu system.

I had ab account that I deleted. however the system still tries to log into the server to see if there are any new messages (for the deleted account). The account does not exist however and it cannot access the server so it hangs waiting for a response that can never come.

How can I stop Thunderbird from doing this?

When I try to send emails, I receive this message. "Sending of the message failed. An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: [M1] Authentication required (6aecbed3-07a6-11ef-9de7-83bcbd00a978). Please verify that your email address is correct in your account settings and try again". I have checked as requested by this message, and everything appears to be in order. Can anyone help with this issue, please?