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Hi, I run TB on 2 machines. On one (running Win10) Supernova downloaded automatically, odd as I thought you had to opt in to get it. (The other running Win11 is still on v102). No problem as it looks good. (I'll make any suggestions separately.) But I'm concerned about migration as I have a lot of messages, both archived and in live folders. Judging by some forum responses version 102 should still be lurking in the background. Is that right? And if so what's the migration plan once Supernova is out of beta? And as I was about to move storage location from C: to D: for space issues, is it best to hold off until Supernova is fully live?

Thunderbird is completely unusable in the latest release. Attempting to set up a gmail based account results in

"Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead

Thunderbird detected a potential security threat and did not continue to 192.168.1.250. If you visit this site, attackers could try to steal information like your passwords, emails, or credit card details."

That's it. No options, no explanation, no KB articles, nothing. It just doesn't work. But why is Thunderbird trying to open a web connection to my local machine? If it's trying to talk to itself, why can't it? This is clearly an issue with trying to authenticate to Google as it happens after auth, but come on, this is a given requirement these days. If your app doesn't work out of the box (MacOS 13 btw), it may as well not exist for the OS, so this is very confusing.

Trying out older versions was a real comedy of failures as well. Too old and it's just a disaster. Too new and it just self updated to 115 again which doesn't work. So kinda seems like this is not a functional app anymore, at least not on Mac. Baffling. I guess it can only be used with legacy style email systems.

After the automatic upgrade to 115.2.2, I have lost access to all my folders, emails and calendar entries. But I can still see my addresses by using Tools/Address Book, and my filters by using Tools/Message Filters.

When I started Thunderbird for the first time on 115.2.2 I got to the usual message page which had all the tabs of the "open" emails I had when I last closed Thunderbird. But there was no sign of my folders and I couldn't get to any other messages (See first screenshot). I also had a second occurrence of Thunderbird running (I could have hit the icon a second time) that didn't show the tabs I had on the first screen. (No screen shot)

On a previous post here https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1424153 it was suggested that I try Troubleshoot mode. That made no difference and at that time I had no folders showing, and just two tabs. I suspect after that I deleted the tabs.

Now I get a completely blank page in what is usually the message/folder area. Also the button for the address book above the message pane has now gone disappeared (Second screen shot), and I can find no way of accessing my previous (10years+ of messages).

It looks to me as if something is wrong in the profile.

Where do I go from here?

Many times now, I have needed to change folder views to 'Unthreaded', ditch 'Correspondents' in favour of 'From' and 'Recipient' and arrange my emails in descending date order. Every time I create a new folder, I need to go through the same routine. Every time I download a new version of Thunderbird, all my folders are changed back to 'Threaded' and 'Correspondents' and are in Ascending date order, so I have to go through the whole process again. What I need is a simple 'global' setting in a menu, so that I can change the settings for ALL my Thunderbird folders in a simple series of clicks, without needing to go to each folder every time. Better still would be a 'once for all' fix that would prevent Thunderbird changing my settings every time I download a new version. There must be thousands of Thunderbird users who share my frustration with what is lotherwise an excellent email program. Please fix it!

Please restore my old version of Thunderbird - at 85 years I am not computer savvy and I am too old to learn new tricks. So please tell me how I might get back the previous layout of Thunderbird. Kind regards, Lawrence (Laurie) Ford. Melbourne Australia. 2nd October,2023.

Comment: I don't think Thuderbird was ready for this Edition/Version/Transition.

Question: I have several Email Addresses/Accounts. When Thunderbird updated their Software, only a few of my Email Addresses now show under "Inbox". How do I get the other Email Addresses under that Folder/Header? I used to have an Add-on>Manually sort folders but that Add-on was disabled with the Thunderbird Update and is no longer compatible.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you in advance.

Unified folders got confused after 115 update. I have several problems with folders from several mailboxes not showing in their respective category. For example, inbox that doesn't show in "inbox" category, Junk folder not in "junk" category, and so on. I think all of them are caused by thunderbird not being able to recognize the kind of each folder in different mailboxes, because of different providers and their settings. I have accounts in major providers such as Google and Yahoo, but also have several independent (i.e. business or work) accounts. One of the most striking example of this trouble is one university account that has all it's folders (sent, junk etc) organized under it's inbox. This was showing ok in the previous versions (junk was "junk" category) but now I get all folders (as subfolders) in the "inbox" category, under the account's name.

I attach screenshot from unified inbox. Note that the inbox from one account is missing and in another account all folders are under inbox.

Like many others, I'm seriously considering going back to v112 because I find SO many of the changes in 115 "change for the sake of change," "fixing" things that weren't broken, and breaking functionality that we thought was stable. Not keeping thins like the default font that was selected in the previous version before the upgrade is just plain annoying.

I use Thunderbird to manage many email accounts across different profiles. Not all accounts show up in unified folders, although all accounts are visible in the "All folders" view. Is there any way to "reset" anything to fix this? The Unified folders "Inbox" view in 112 was the best way to see all accounts that had new messages.

Following an automatic update the other day, everything in Thunderbird is oversized. There are in fact some things I can no longer see at all! The program has become very difficult to us to read/write emails. See the image below, a full-screen capture showing the problem . There must be a line to edit in the fonfig file to make the display look normal again. Please help me find that line!! I am visually impaired, and life is difficult enough already! tnx, Paul pgschreier@swissonline.ch

I now have two issues, one is that on my IMAP accounts with my own domain, both the recent sent and recent received emails in a thread are showing up twice. This doesn't happen with previous emails in that thread or with gmail, exchange, outlook.com, live.com, icloud, etc.... Now, I have an issue where the pop ups for calendar notifications keep popping up non stop and either won't go away by hitting "Submit to changes anyway" or if they do go away, they immediately pop back up again. 115 is a big disapointment for me, it's been highly glitchy, many add ons no longer, some that should work, don't work properly, it was hyped a major upgrade and I see very little that distinguishes if from 102 in any meaningful way except some of the icons are more colorful. Is there a way to go back to 102? Either that or I may start using Mac Mail again due to all these bugs.

Hello,

a few days ago I switched to the new version 115 and I find it very nice. In my daily work, I use View > Folders > Unread Folders most often.

If I now open unread mails in a folder, the folder is actually no longer an "unread folder". In the "old" version of Thunderbird, folders were refreshed at irregular intervals and folders were automatically hidden when there were no more new mails to read.

This no longer happens with 115. Here the read folders remain visible all day or until I manually select View > Folders > Unread Folders again.

I would therefore be very pleased if this old function were possible again.

Thank you and best regards from Berlin Florian

Hi,

I'm trying to diagnose a random problem I'm having (SOME emails I delete disappear from the inbox and 5 seconds later they reappear).

I can't predict when this will happen, so I'd like to just send logging data to a file. I followed the instructions at https://wiki.mozilla.org/MailNews:Logging and no log file is created.

I set mailnews.imap.loglevel to "All" (without quote marks).

Still no log file and looking at the Error Console, as I gleaned from another reply on this forum, yields nothing whenever I delete an email (whether successfully or not).

Thanks!

I have 2 problems with the TB Inbox.

1. When a message is marked as read and I go to another folder, the message is gone when I return to the inbox. The missing message is not in trash or any other folder. Edit> Undo Delete Message does not recover the message either.

2. The Inbox header shows 216 messages but the Inbox is empty and contains no messages.

Using Repair Folder does not sole the problems. There are no add-ons in place.

Any suggestions on how to resolve these issues would be appreciated.

Hi Community, i wanted to ask wether it normal that Thunderbird 115 needs 60 seconds to load the interface? When it starts it shows my personalised theme and an empty space for a whole minute. (i measured it)

Directly after installation everything was fine. But now i have set up my acconts and rearranged some buttons. Is there maybe a problem with Exchange synchronisation on startup? Both of my accounts are provided by Exchange servers.

Greetings ffproblems

The latest version of thunderbird 115.3.0 (54-bit) has rearranged my folders, and the junkmail folders for all my email addresses no longer exists. This is very alarming, but what is worse is that the trash folder for some email addresses no longer exists, which means as soon as I delete an email it is permenently gone. And some of my email addresses no longer have a 'sent' folder which means that after I have sent an email, there is no record of the email after it is sent. This is very concerning.

There is folder called 'junk' which should have 100s of emails in it, but it say there are only 17, When I select it, there are no emails there. The 'Drafts' folder only has some of my email addresses.

I would post a screenshot, but it would reveal all my email addresses.

The more I am looking into solving this the more I have discovered that thousands of my emails have disappeared. Especially those I have sent. I am devistated. These are my records.

How can I roll back to when thunderbird was reliable, and is there any way of salvaging this catastophe? And how can I trust thunderbird again, which was at one time most reliable?

I have tried the following advice I sought on bing:

To restore the Junk folder, you can go to Tools > Options > Security > Junk and check the box that says “Move new junk messages to”. Then, select “Other” and choose the Junk folder from the list. This will enable the Junk folder again and move any spam messages there. You can also right-click on any message and mark it as junk or not junk to train the filter. FAILED - IT HAS NOT RESTORED THE JUNK FOLDER

To restore the Sent folder, you can go to Tools > Account Settings > Copies & Folders and check the box that says “Place a copy in”. Then, select “Other” and choose the Sent folder from the list. This will enable the Sent folder again and save a copy of any messages you send there. You can also drag and drop any messages from your local folders to the Sent folder if you want to move them. LIMITED SUCCESS - 2 SENT FOLDERS HAVE BEEN RESTORED. Several have not been able to be restored using this method.

Another annoying change: It has put the 'File, Edit, View, Go, Message, etc' Tool bar under the 'Get Messages, Write, Reply etc" Tool bar. They should be the other way round.

I really hope all this can be solved.

Yesterday I tried the 115 (Supernova) and I was disappointed because of the toolbar on top of the TB window: I think that you should let the user choose where put any toolbar, and I didn't find the way to move in its "classical" place (not at top but below the menu). There is a way to do it? And if not, please consider to give it as soon as possible.