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Local folders, filters, certificates lost in migrating from Ubuntu to Mac OS X? How to do it correctly?

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I tried copying my xxx.default folder to the Mac and updating the profile to use that name. The e-mail accounts work, but the folders and filters I had under Ubuntu are gone.

The encryption support is gone. I keep getting prompted to upgrade Enigmail, but when I select download, it just sits there -- no download progress is shown after waiting a long time.

Now my boss sends me e-mail and I can't read it without spinning up my old Thunderbird under Ubuntu.

What is the full proper procedure for migrating from Ubuntu to the Mac version of Thunderbird?

Thanks,

Chris

I tried copying my xxx.default folder to the Mac and updating the profile to use that name. The e-mail accounts work, but the folders and filters I had under Ubuntu are gone. The encryption support is gone. I keep getting prompted to upgrade Enigmail, but when I select download, it just sits there -- no download progress is shown after waiting a long time. Now my boss sends me e-mail and I can't read it without spinning up my old Thunderbird under Ubuntu. What is the full proper procedure for migrating from Ubuntu to the Mac version of Thunderbird? Thanks, Chris

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I tried copying my xxx.default folder to the Mac

To where exactly? Please provide the full path.

Did you start Thunderbird on the Mac prior to copying the profile from your Ubuntu installation?

and updating the profile to use that name.

Please explain in detail what that means.

I keep getting prompted to upgrade Enigmail, but when I select download, it just sits there

I'm not aware of a 'Download' button for updating extensions. What 'download' are you talking about?

What is the full proper procedure for migrating from Ubuntu to the Mac version of Thunderbird?

There is no specific method for Ubuntu to Mac. The procedure is generic. See http://kb.mozillazine.org/Move_to_a_new_PC

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"To where exactly?"

I copied it to ~/Library/Thunderbird/Profiles

I had started Thunderbird prior to making that move, but it wasn't running when I updated the profiles.ini file.

I edited the .profiles to read:

[General] StartWithLastProfile=1

[Profile0] Name=default IsRelative=1 Path=Profiles/it01fmsj.default Default=1

I changed the prior value to it01fmsj.default. The other contents was unchanged by me.

I used the following steps and ended up on the never finishing progress bar:

  1. Select EnigMail “Setup Wizard”
  2. Use default “I prefer a standard ..” —> Click "Continue"
  3. Popup: Enigmail Alert: Enigmail Initialization Failed. You are using GnuPG version 1.4.19, which is not supported anymore. Enigmail requires GnuPG version 2.0.7 or newer. Please upgrade your GnuPG installation, or Enigmail will not work.
  4. Click “OK”
  5. Same Popup appears again: Click “OK”
  6. On “GnuPG Required”: offer to “Install GnuPG ..” or browse to its location. Click “Install GnuPG”
  7. A “Downloading GnuPG” progress bar appears, but shows no progress

See the attached png for what I got. Carrying over the signature and encryption/decryption features matter since I can't communicate to my coworkers properly unless that works.

That generic procedure covers that?

Why isn't the Enigmail installation working from the Setup Wizard? I need that to work or to install it outside of Thunderbird so that Thunderbird will be OK.

Thanks,

Chris

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I changed the prior value to it01fmsj.default. The other contents was unchanged by me.

That sounds about right.

Select EnigMail “Setup Wizard”

You don't need to run the setup wizard again. However, you need to carry over your key pair from the Ubuntu installation.

Why isn't the Enigmail installation working from the Setup Wizard?

Which part didn't you understand? You are using GnuPG version 1.4.19, which is not supported anymore. Enigmail requires GnuPG version 2.0.7 or newer. Please upgrade your GnuPG installation, or Enigmail will not work.

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"You don't need to run the setup wizard again."

Isn't that the best way to tell Enigmail where my GnuPG is or that it needs to look again?

"However, you need to carry over your key pair from the Ubuntu installation."

That's covered in the "generic" instructions? I missed it. I checked under my security settings and my certificates appear to be there; the reason they're not working for decryption is because of the Enigmail problem, right?

"Which part didn't you understand?"

What are you referring to here? Something you said in your first e-mail or this last second one?

I'm using the "Upgrade GnuPG" feature I got to through the Enigmail setup wizard, which, as a wizard, I expect it to know the correct place to get the software its telling me I have to have and that its offering to get for me through its "Install GnuPG" button. I don't think this is an unreasonable expectation. But it failed. Is the correct one not configured (pointed to) on your servers side? Or is that a problem in the Enigmail world?

As for my local folders, I had an absolute path to them that needed to be corrected. The directory containing the Local folders I wanted to browse to via the browse button wouldn't show the "Library" directory in the list of folders in my home directory. I had to create a link around the Library directory to it to make the Local folders appear. That's working now. Is the Library directory special to Thunderbird or Enigmail so that it won't provide access to it?

What happened to my filters? Any suggestions how I could get those back?

Thanks!

Chris

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Carry over your key pair from the Ubuntu installation has got nothing to do with Thunderbird. So it is not covered in any Thunderbird instructions. Please refer to gnupg instructions.

I checked under my security settings and my certificates appear to be there;

Certificates are stored within the Thunderbird profile. They've got nothing to do with Enigmail though.

What are you referring to here?

To the error message you got in your attempt to run the Enigmail setup wizard. Nothing more to say here.

I'm using the "Upgrade GnuPG" feature I got to through the Enigmail setup wizard,

Not sure what you're talking about. Enigmail 1.9.1 requires gnupg version 2.0.7 or newer. It is up to you to install the newer gnupg version. Simple as that.

Is the correct one not configured (pointed to) on your servers side?

There are no servers involved. This is about your local setup.

Or is that a problem in the Enigmail world?

Not meant as an offense, but I'm not under the impression you know what you're doing. As this seems to be a corporate computer, I'd suggest you contact your IT folks to get things going again.

I had to create a link around the Library directory to it to make the Local folders appear.

I'm not following what you did or what the problem was. In any case, messing with the 'Local Directory' setting is a bad idea, unless one knows exactly what he's doing.

What happened to my filters?

To be honest, I have no idea. Given the uncertainties above, I'm not going to speculate.

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"Not sure what you're talking about. Enigmail 1.9.1 requires gnupg version 2.0.7 or newer. It is up to you to install the newer gnupg version. Simple as that."

I don't really know how to be clearer: I described how I got to the point where the Setup wizard offered to upgrade my version of GnuPG, and it failed. If that mechanism CAN'T work it shouldn't be offered, in my opinion. I'm describing a problem and you're not picking up on that. Your matra is that I should just upgrade GnuPG. I did that just now by going to the site and installing it. I restarted Thunderbird. Enigmail sill didn't know where the updated GnuPG was. I still got the complaint that I need to upgrade to the new version. How was that supposed to go?

OK, back through the Enigmail setup wizard to browse to the location: the browse function can't see the /usr directory where GnuPG 2.1 was installed -- another problem. I created a link from /opt/local to /usr/local/gnupg-2.1 and navigated via that with the browser and now Enigmail can see it and Enigmail is happy.

Your only contribution to this process is to "install the newer gnupg version. Simple as that." Except it isn't as simple as that: Enigmail still didn't pick up on the location of gnupg-2.1 -- and I used the default installation location -- as you said it so simply should. I'm looking for when the simplicity kicks in. Maybe I was supposed to install it where Enigmail would expect it to be? Or make links from where GnuPG wanted it to go to the directory where Enigmail would find it. Where is the simplicity in this?

Since you're making remarks about my knowing what I'm doing: how do you get that "Top 10 contributor" rating? You have shown very little insight into any of the problems I had.

Since you say "I have no idea" about my filters, that's another thing you're demonstrating your unhelpful way with. Someone knowledgeable would know where they're stored (msgFilterRules.dat) under each account folder. But you are "not going to speculate." -- I wouldn't want to put you out.

This exchange has taught me that I can expect no help from the "Top 10" contributors. This has been a waste of time. You can't be helpful. You've been nearly perfectly unhelpful. You'll have to try harder.

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I described how I got to the point where the Setup wizard offered to upgrade my version of GnuPG, and it failed. If that mechanism CAN'T work it shouldn't be offered, in my opinion.

If you are of the opinion that Enigmail is supposed to upgrade your gnupg version on a Mac, feel free to complain to the Enigmail folks. They do have a support newsgroup, and lots of documentation.

Enigmail sill didn't know where the updated GnuPG was. I still got the complaint that I need to upgrade to the new version. How was that supposed to go?

Installing or upgrading gnupg on a Mac is beyond the scope of this forum. I don't know how one installs software on a Mac. May be you should have asked in an Apple forum. In general, executables are found as long as they are included in the $PATH environment variable. This is not specific to Thunderbird or Enigmail in any way.

Maybe I was supposed to install it where Enigmail would expect it to be?

You were supposed to install it in a way that Enigmail (and any other program which may need it) is able to find it.

You have shown very little insight into any of the problems I had.

Because your problems are general ones, and not related to Thunderbird or Enigmail specifically.

You have shown very little insight into any of the problems I had.

Yet it helped you to get Enigmail going.

the folders and filters I had under Ubuntu are gone.

Since you explained you had copied over the entire profile from the Ubuntu installation, there is no reason your filters shouldn't be there, unless you did do something wrong.

Someone knowledgeable would know where they're stored (msgFilterRules.dat) under each account folder.

That isn't news to me. Now with your new knowledge about where filters are stored I suppose you did solve your problem.

You've been nearly perfectly unhelpful.

As advice doesn't appear to be welcome I won't bother you any more. Good luck.