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My Thunderbird set-up has worked fine for years so I was surprised to discover two days ago I can no longer send emails. I have a Gmail SMTP account which I have never previously have a problem with.

Thunderbird updates automatically and I am on version 91.8.1 - it's possible the problem began when the new version was downloaded but I don't know when that was.

Whenever I try to send an email I get the error:

The message could not be sent because the connection to Outgoing server (SMTP) smtp.googlemail.com timed out.

On May 20, 2022, in a few days, Google will turn off "unsecure access" to Gmail from Thunderbird and Outlook. This will require changing the Thunderbird account settings from "Normal Password" to "OAuth2" for verification. Problem is OAuth2 verification will not work on my Windows 7 laptop. It just runs in circles. A Google page opens, asks my Google account password, accepts it, and then shows a page asking to allow access to the account. Saying yes just closes the window, but no mail gets POPed down to Thunderbird. In my testing, OAuth2 does work on my Windows 10 laptop. If you are as stubborn as me about still using the Win7 computer, you can change your Google account to use 2-factor verification. They will call you or text you every time you log in to the Google account itself, or you can buy a USB dongle. Once you have 2FA setup, you can go to the "Security" sidebar in your Google account, and create an "app password". I said "Mail" and "Windows Computer" and it generates a 16-letter password shown as all caps, but when cut-and-pasted in my Keepass password manager is all small case. You can then go back to, or stay at "Normal Password" in your Thunderbird account settings, and when the password to your Google account fails, put in the app password and check "Remember in Password manager". Then you can POP emails from Gmail again. I don't know if Outlook has these problems. I assume IMAP on Win 7 might have these problems. I did create a new T-bird profile just to try this out. I detailed that misery quest in a previous post: "Almost can get Gmail with 2FA" https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1369836

The sad thing is my Google password is 15 characters alpha mixed with numeric, I assume case sensitive, and also special characters. So it is much more secure than the app password Google assigned me. Especially more secure now that hackers know our email password is 16 alpha non-case-sensitive. Oh well, that's Google for you. Don't blame them, blame the idiots that set their passwords to Password1.

After figuring out this with the new test Google accounts I made, I just switched one of my three "real" Gmail accounts to 2FA, and an app password for mail. If I read right, if you try to outsmart the system and drop out of Google 2FA, it also invalidates all your app passwords as well.

It would be nice if the T-bird team could see why OAuth2 verification fails in Win7. I posted results in my T-bird error console in that previous post. I hope this is a weird thing that only affects me, but just in case, I thought I would post this for other Win7 dinosaurs out there.

Hi, I'm using Thunderbird chat with XMPP and Openfire as XMPP server. My only problem is that I can't transfer file on chat window. However, I can easily send files on other XMPP client such as Pidgin or AstraChat.

So, my question is, does Thunderbird chat support file transfer ?

Thx

Has anyone received this message or know how to fix the issue that may be causing it?

The reason for the problem: 5.3.0 - Other mail system problem 554-'5.4.14 Hop count exceeded - possible mail loop ATTR34 [BL0GCC02FT003.eop-gcc02.prod.protection.outlook.com]'

I have four Gmail accounts which I'm phasing out because of the absurd Google policies and convolutions. I've added four new accounts with another, my own mail hosting service. all the four Gmail accounts I have set to forward all to thee new accounts.

The problem is every time I start up Thunderbird it defaults stubbornly to the previous Gmail account which subsequently it cannot log in and for a password.

I tried everything, setting the other account as default account, unchecking server settings [i.e.check for new messages at start up].

Since I have much (downloaded) information still in subfolders that I need to access from time to time I have not yet deleted that account.

Nothing seems to work, every time I start Thunderbird it immediately goes to that previous default Gmail account and then prompts me for "mail server password required".

The strange thing is that the other remaining three Gmail accounts which have identical settings do not create a problem.

how can I make this stop for once and for all?

Hi,

I did an upgrade yesterday from 91 to 102. This morning, I get a few issues. Some email messages are blank. Some have a lot of header and content code displaying that is not related to the email I am opening but from a different email message. Some emails have no HTML content but others are fine.

On my cellular device, I am using the Bluemail app and all messages are there and are fine so it appears to be related to Thunderbird 102 upgrade.

I have used Thunderbird for years and this is an issue I have never seen? I am running an IMAP account.

Thanks,

Mike

I upgraded to TB 102.0 today. After I checked my settings and updated my plugins, it seemed to be working fine. However, later in the day I noticed a message that TB was downloading about 880 messages in my main inbox. Of course, there are not nearly that many new messages. I searched and did not notice any new emails in the listing. However, I found that two recent messages had been corrupted in some way. I enclosed an image. When I open the message, there is not even the normal header with the different choices. There is just what appears to be a bunch of information that has been mushed together in place of this email. I found two emails like that. I right clicked on the two, and deleted the corrupted messages. Then I compacted files. For a moment, things seemed OK. Some other emails near those that would not display worked again. However, shortly after I did another compact folders, I got the same message -- downloading the same 880 emails. Now I have two new messages corrupted.

Please help! I have no idea how to stop this corruption. This account is hosted on Google Workspace. I have it set to sync only the last 90 days of messages.

Hello! I wanted to merge two local folders. Used drag and drop from one local folder to another. Now I realize it was mistake to do it with 5000+ emails. Anyway Thunderbird functions OK, but I have problem accessing these folders, since they don't show messages. The one from which I draged messages is still showing them, but the other to which I dropped messages not... and that is the more important one.

Before moving I renamed destination folder, but now I see that Thunderbird also created another (new local folder) because my action of moving large number of emails... Anyway these folders look empty.

Is there any easy way to stop the action or undo it somehow... cause i really don't wanna loose those emails. Please help, if it is possible! Thanks in advance! Marko

This is a new one... Windows 10 1TB SSD Newest version T'bird

History: Upgraded from 500BG to 1TB using ISO Imaging software

Issue: The ISO Imaging went well and the new 1TB account showed 485GB which was accurate. The next day my 1TB drive was full 998GB and my Thunderbird SBD folder was 743GB. Every time I delete data to create space my imap.gmail.com folder grows (Currently 736GB).

Help!!!

I have just updated the latest Thunderbird but every time I open it, it just crashes? Is this just a me or a general problem. I am running Ubuntu 22.04. How can I go back to previous version? Hope you can help? Chris

Hello, Messages do not show in the 'Inbox' at the top of the page. The Headings do not show there either.

If I click on a line, I can see them.
I can then drag them to a heading on the the hand list. I can then see and use them 

Please see attached image. Thanks. Glenn

Nearly every day I have to quit Thunderbird and reopen it as, it will not connect to my server. This means that all the viewing criteria and spending/descending has to be reset and is a real drag. As soon as I reopen Thunderbird it works normally again.

I have used the same connection details for years and it is just the last two Thunderbird versions that have replicated this issue. It's not always every morning when I wake my iMac up, but normally happens then or, later during the day.

I asked this question for 102.3.1 but received no answers so, I am hoping that there will be an answer to this.

Thanks

Hello, Recently my GPG keys stopped working in Thunderbird. I didn't make any changes. From one day to another Thunderbird started not recognizing my key pair. Additionally, my private key has disappeared from my computer, it is not in the settings folder it should be in. When I access the Thunderbird Profiles folder I see that there are files named as corrupted "Secring.gpg.corrupt". See the attached image. What is the step-by-step to solve this problem? I would also like to know if anyone knows what may have caused this type of problem.

Thanks!

I had already some help(disble Sophos, system restore, though without success), but after the system restart there were no traces of the previous exchange of messages

There is no mystery to what's happening here. Programming 101: a security exception doesn't get reset every 2 or 3 passes unless some malicious or incompetent programmer set up a countdown loop to reset it. And who would do that kind of thing to users unless some malicious jerk wants to pressure the users into fighting his or her political programming battles with other net entities? I turn 77 this month, and last year had a tumor removed from inside my spinal cord that, while slow-growing and essentially benign, caused horrific pain. People my age and condition save our energy for things that really matter to us. That doesn't include Lilliputian battles over which end of the egg to open. So suck up your egos and resolve this among each other.

Hello, does anyone know what causes this error. I might have done something silly, but now when I try to check incoming e-mails it says "mailnews.pop3.0: Socket state is closed - won't send command." This is shown if I look at the error console. This happens after I enter the password.