Is there something in the security certificate from a website support server, such as provided by "Tera-byte", that tells me which certificate authority company certified their security certificate? They claim their certificate to be self signed, but both Firefox and Internet Explorer reject connection because their certificate does not comply to RFC 5280, Their certificate expired on Friday, June 30, 2006, 2:09 PM. They are adamant that their certificate is in compliance and valid, in spite of the help I got from Microsoft in evaluating their certificate. I have a picture on "dropbox" that shows their certificate data at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/aw9k1iv6pxhtk6k/AAD5uaI52_oQFJS2Xy-R5h9Wa?dl=0 Thanks, Jack Kistler