I-Thunderbird Community Forum

Hi, I have two accounts in my Thunderbird. They are Gmail (regular gmail account) and CFCC (an institutional account). The CFCC shows up in my Unified Folder list but the Gmail does not. Is that normal? The main Inbox is showing all incoming emails from both accounts so no performance issues, just wondering how to get rid of the CFCC (if that's possible) to eliminate clutter. Thank you. GES

Ever since last 2 windows updates, thunderbird always asks for passwords and authorization for google calendar...this happens when you restart the computer and when you log out of thunderbird and log back in....this never happened before I uninstalled thunderbird and reinstalled it and it keeps happening is there a fix?

Hi.

Just had a not requested update to 153 esr, which in itself is generally fine, with a small exception.

The windows min, max and close buttons all come up with a code.

Probably just some weird setup I have but any ideas will be welcome.

I use userChrome.css to give a background colour, so maybe the ID of each has changes for any css

1. titlebar-min{height:1.66em; background:#00b !important}
2. titlebar-max{height:1.66em; background:#090 !important}
3. titlebar-close{height:1.66em; background:#d00 !important}

but I don't see how that would effect the actual bare icon

Thank you

Coming from https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/cannot-send-messages, and https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1596545#answer-1837376 (thank you christ1)

Account settings attached. I don't have an active firewall. My email provider is microsoft (outlook) No antivirus installed Linux Mint 22.3 x86_64 Thunderbird 153.0esr

I have confirmed with microsoft support that the ports and such are correct, they claim thunderbird is the problem.

I cannot get the Subscribe function to do anything. I would like it to hide, in my Folder List, some of the extraneous folders that are present either as Mozilla defaults or AOL Mail flow-down folders.. From what I read, like a number of folks have simila or nearly similar duplicate Trash/Deleted Items, Sent/Sent Items & two labeled Drafts, albeit one's properties identify it differenet from its Drafts label as Draft (singular) while the other's properties identify it as labeled, Drafts.

For a cleaner Folder List appearance, I wish to hide the unused folders from the Foder List, I have the desired Sent, Drafts & Trash folder desitnations mapped in the TB Server settings, etc. (I assume there is only one avenue for this), thinking the unused foldes would then be available to be hidden. However, deselecting unwanted folders in Subscribe has never done anything, to any folder. When I return to the Subscribe window again, the deselected folders have been reselected.

I've seen a lot of messages here with many different suggesed remedies, but haven't found any one yet that was reported as being successful. Is there one?

Matt

I am assisting an elderly user with a personal @hotmail.com account that receives email successfully in Thunderbird but cannot send. I have confirmed they can send and receive emails from their online outlook.com portal. The user's computer setup is as follows:

• Windows 11 (with latest updates).
• Thunderbird 153.0.2 (64-bit).
• A personal @hotmail.com account with the following server configurations:

  -> Incoming IMAP: outlook.office365.com, port 993, SSL/TLS, OAuth2, and
  -> Outgoing SMTP: smtp-mail.outlook.com, port 587, STARTTLS, OAuth2.

Thunderbird successfully authenticates to Microsoft using OAuth2 for incoming email. However, when Thunderbird attempts outgoing email authentication, Microsoft's SMTP server rejects the authentication. The Error Console in Thunderbird records this message: "535 5.7.139 Authentication unsuccessful, SmtpClientAuthentication is disabled for the Mailbox."

-> Refer to attached image: "Thunderbird Error Console_20260811.jpg". -> I am able to provide a short screen recording demonstrating the failure if needed.

To try and resolve the above, I completed the following actions:

1. Confirmed Thunderbird is current (153.0.2).
2. Confirmed SMTP is configured for OAuth2 rather than Normal Password.
3. Confirmed port 587 and STARTTLS.
4. Re-authorised the Microsoft account/OAuth connection.
5. Confirmed IMAP OAuth2 works.
6. Confirmed Outlook.com webmail can send successfully.
7. Reviewed Mozilla's current “Microsoft OAuth Authentication and Thunderbird in 2026” guidance, including the section covering cases where IMAP/POP works but SMTP does not.
8. Captured the SMTP failure in Thunderbird's Error Console.

However nothing worked, so I raised the matter with Microsoft support and eventually had the matter referred to their Tier 2 team. The Microsoft case number is: 7107041963.

Microsoft Support confirmed that for a personal Outlook.com/Hotmail account there is no user-accessible mailbox-level SMTP AUTH setting, and advised that SMTP is enabled by default for supported clients. However, because sending from Outlook.com webmail works, Microsoft Tier 2 declined to investigate the SMTP server response further and directed me to Thunderbird support.

I am able to provide a copy of the chat transcript if needed.

In any event, the TLDR version IMAP works using OAuth2, but SMTP using OAuth2 fails because Microsoft's SMTP server reports SmtpClientAuthentication is disabled for the Mailbox. Microsoft Tier 2 has referred the issue to Thunderbird support.

Questions:

1. Is this a known current issue affecting personal Outlook.com/Hotmail accounts using Thunderbird?
2. Is 535 5.7.139 SmtpClientAuthentication is disabled for the Mailbox known to occur with Thunderbird OAuth2 even though IMAP OAuth2 succeeds?
3. Is there a current Thunderbird-side workaround or alternative SMTP server/configuration recommended for personal Hotmail accounts?
4. Would changing the SMTP server from smtp-mail.outlook.com to smtp.office365.com be appropriate for a personal Hotmail account in Thunderbird 153, or should the current Microsoft-documented server be retained?

-> I note there appears to be conflicting advice on this point in previous support threads.

1. Given that IMAP OAuth2 authentication succeeds for the same Microsoft account, does this indicate that Thunderbird's Microsoft OAuth authorisation itself is functioning correctly, or could SMTP require a separate permission/token that may be failing?
2. Are there any additional Thunderbird logs or diagnostics I can provide that would help resolve this matter?

Disclosure: I used ChatGPT to help organise my troubleshooting notes and technical details for this post. The troubleshooting, observations and diagnostic information described above are from my own work on the affected PC.

thunderbird has stopped receiving e-mails from century link. Configurations worked for two years as pop3, now won't connect. Tried imap configuration, same issue. Changed password (CenturyLink has problems with some password characters), still will not connect. AI (co pilot) tells me it is an issue since CenturyLink made changes, but they blame the email app (tried with Samsung app, thunderbird, outlook, none will connect. Connection thru CenturyLink web page works fine.

After returning from a 6 day vacation, my wife attempted to download email from her Yahoo email account. There are nearly 200 messages that have piled up but they aren't moving. I've uninstalled and re-installed TB. I've uninstalled and reinstalled the app password in Yahoo. There is no problem with accessing the email via any web browser. I spent 49 minutes on a tech support call with Yahoo and they have said the problem is with TB because they repeated the same steps I have. I checked firewall settings and the only antivirus program on the computer is Malware Bytes and it's not running in the background. The version of TB is the most recent as of yesterday. I don't see any sketchy looking emails in the web version of Yahoo Mail when it's opened. It's set up as a POP3 account and has been since Cox Internet gave their email over to Yahoo. I'd appreciate any assistance in resolving this because it's currently above my pay grade and tech support at Yahoo.

I wanted to export my address book from my Windows10 PC, after a while I got an error message, something happened during the attempt. Since then I cannot start Thunderbird anymore. The program does not respond. So I can't find the Thunderbird version.

I recently added a email address to my thunderbird email and it brought forward a lot of messages from Yahoo that are spam. I would like to block them and instructions I have were dated 2016 from Mozilla. Is there a new instruction on how to block?

I have used Thunderbird for years with complete success. Recently (within the past month) I have lost the ability to send (SMTP) mail and receive the following error message: "Send Message Error, Sending of the message failed. Unable to authenticate to Outgoing server (SMTP). Please check the password and verify the 'Authentication method' in 'Account Settings | Outgoing server (SMTP)." [I just change my from address to another one going through Network Solutions and the mail sends just fine.]

Everything seems to be in order when checking my settings. I finally called Yahoo and spent an hour on the phone with them, including a supervisor (in the background) and they were unable to correct the situation. Yes, since I had called them from their tech support line (I looked it up; did not call anything sent to me) and they worked on my computer trying to fix it. They finally said it was a Thunderbird issue and said I needed to contact Thunderbird.

I am able to send from my phone (Android) using the same cox.net e-mail address. My wife is able to send from her computer using her cox.net via Thunderbird. My wife's incoming mail is IMAP while mine are all POP.

I happen to have several cox.net accounts and get the same SMTP error on all. However, all receive POP mail just fine, but see the next paragraph.

[As an aside (?), I should note that after Yahoo attempted to "fix" the problem, ALL my incoming cox.net mail comes into ALL of my cox.net accounts regardless of which one is addressed.]

I don't even know where to start at this point. Thanks for any help.

Bill

I'm getting Spam Emails from about 10 regular Spam Accounts and I wish to Universally Block them by adding Them to my Filtering Lists. I'm using the * Character as a Universal Place Holder for the *@*.com, *@blah.blah.ca or com. The Filter works one Time then stops working for any fresh Spam. In other words, the Filter doesn't Filter any new Spam from these Addresses. Why?

Im looking for help to set up my Hotmail account. I have 4 emails. They all worked perfectly for a long time. All of a sudden, everything just stopped. I have tried everything and the configuration seems to be correct. Ive tried every fix i could find. It just no longer makes sense to me. Does it just not work with Thunderbird? The specific message is "User is authenticated but not connected". Also when i tried to send an email, i get "Login to server smtp-mail.outlook.com with username **********@hotmail.com failed."

1. 1. Thunderbird connects to my IMAP/SMTP server but neither receives nor sends mail

I am having a problem with Thunderbird on Windows with a custom-domain email account hosted by Advika Web.

1. 1. 1. Account

Email address: `connect@synergyappstudio.com`

Mail hosting provider: Advika Web

The mailbox and password are confirmed to be valid because I can successfully log in to the provider's webmail using the same email address and password.

1. 1. 1. Server settings provided by the hosting provider

Incoming IMAP:

• Server: `mail.synergyappstudio.com`
• Port: `993`
• Connection security: SSL/TLS
• Authentication: Normal password
• Username: `connect@synergyappstudio.com`

Outgoing SMTP:

• Server: `mail.synergyappstudio.com`
• Port: `465`
• Connection security: SSL/TLS
• Authentication: Normal password
• Username: `connect@synergyappstudio.com`

1. 1. 1. What happens in Thunderbird

Thunderbird shows:

> Connected to mail.synergyappstudio.com

However, incoming messages are not downloaded and outgoing messages cannot be sent.

The SMTP error I received was:

> The connection to Outgoing server (SMTP) mail.synergyappstudio.com timed out.

1. 1. 1. Connectivity tests

I tested the server from Windows PowerShell.

Port 993:

`Test-NetConnection mail.synergyappstudio.com -Port 993`

Result:

> RemoteAddress: 103.69.196.146 > RemotePort: 993 > TcpTestSucceeded: True

Port 465:

`Test-NetConnection mail.synergyappstudio.com -Port 465`

Result:

> RemoteAddress: 103.69.196.146 > RemotePort: 465 > TcpTestSucceeded: True

Therefore, both TCP ports are reachable from my computer.

1. 1. 1. TLS tests

I also tested the actual TLS handshake rather than just TCP connectivity.

TLS 1.2 against IMAP 993 failed with:

> Unable to read data from the transport connection: An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host.

TLS 1.0 against IMAP 993 produced the same result:

> Unable to read data from the transport connection: An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host.

I also tested the TLS handshake against SMTP 465 and received the same "connection was forcibly closed by the remote host" result.

1. 1. 1. Comparison with Outlook

There is an important comparison:

The same mailbox **successfully connects and authenticates in Classic Outlook** using the same server and credentials.

However, I am using Microsoft Office Home & Student, so Classic Outlook is not available to me as a practical permanent solution for this business email account.

Microsoft's **New Outlook** also fails to add the account and displays:

> Sign in failed. Please try again in a few minutes. You may need an app password.

The mailbox does not use Microsoft 365 authentication. It is a conventional hosting-provider IMAP/SMTP mailbox.

1. 1. 1. Thunderbird troubleshooting already attempted

I have:

• Confirmed the password works through webmail.
• Confirmed the supplied IMAP/SMTP server names.
• Confirmed ports 993 and 465 are reachable.
• Confirmed SSL/TLS settings.
• Used Normal Password authentication.
• Used the full email address as the username.
• Tried Thunderbird with the supplied IMAP/SMTP settings.
• Reduced **Maximum number of server connections to cache** from the default 5 to 3 and then to 1. This did not resolve the problem.
• Restarted Thunderbird after changing the connection-cache setting.
• Tried Thunderbird's connection logging, but the generated log files remained 0 KB, so no useful log was produced.

1. 1. 1. Additional observation

Thunderbird displays "Connected to mail.synergyappstudio.com", but the account does not actually synchronize incoming mail.

The provider's webmail works normally, and Classic Outlook works with the same mailbox.

1. 1. 1. What I would like help determining

Could you please help determine whether this is:

1. A Thunderbird IMAP/SMTP compatibility issue with this particular mail server; 2. A TLS negotiation issue; 3. A Thunderbird configuration/profile issue; 4. A Windows/security-software interaction; or 5. Something specific to the mail server's IMAP/SMTP implementation?

In particular, I would like to understand why Thunderbird can establish the connection but cannot complete the IMAP/SMTP communication, while Classic Outlook works with the same server, ports and credentials.

I can provide Thunderbird version information, Troubleshooting Information, screenshots of the account configuration, or any additional diagnostic information you need.

My folders are in disarray and it is cutting into my productivity to file emails. I have tried but it in settings but it doesn't work. Many are in alpha order but there are 2 different two different sections of the same name, and some odd files end up in an alphabetized section.

For instance there are 2 different ZBV sections with other stray folders in the same area that should be in there own alpha folder area. It's a mess to find the right folder. I have to scroll up and own and look for the folder I need to file in. I would be happy to donate, and i have in the past, but I really need this to get fixed. Please, please, please...

I am trying to evaluate your product, but i cannot load the program. it appears that this product does not have technical support. If the only technical support is from a forum or community, i will look at other products. i do not know the version since i cannot load it