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iCloud > Private Relay breaks Firefox when accessing company internal websites

Hi, I have been struggling for months and months with Firefox on macOS. I have been the only user in our company struggling. Our IT has been constantly attacking me for u… (funda kabanzi)

Hi,

I have been struggling for months and months with Firefox on macOS. I have been the only user in our company struggling.

Our IT has been constantly attacking me for using Apple macOS Betas and iOS Betas. And many people in the company have assumed the problems are related to macOS DNS issues.

To try to solve the problems, we removed my Fortigate hardware vpn. We set me up with a new wifi router.

I am on macOS 27 Developer Beta 5.

Brave can access process.tomsawyer.com and build.tomsawyer.com. Chrome can access process.tomsawyer.com and build.tomsawyer.com. Safari could not access process.tomsawyer.com and build.tomsawyer.com. Firefox could not access process.tomsawyer.com and build.tomsawyer.com.

I have been struggling for a long time. Today Safari was unable to access process.tomsawyer.com and build.tomsawyer.com, both of which are internal Tom Sawyer Software web sites. I finally realized that I had iCloud > Private Relay turned on and I decided to try turning it off.

Good news Safari could now access process.tomsawyer.com and build.tomsawyer.com.

I went about my business trying to debug other problems because Firefox on Windows 11 also could not access process.tomsawyer.com and build.tomsawyer.com. I have a brand new Windows 11 setup on another laptop. Turning off DNS over HTTP in Firefox on Windows 11 solved the problem so now the Edge, Chrome, Brave, and Firefox browsers could all access our internal Tom Sawyer websites, good news!

Then at the last minute, because I became curious, I did a test and I turned off iCloud > Private Relay and Firefox suddenly could access process.tomsawyer.com and build.tomsawyer.com on macOS.

I then turned on iCloud > Private Relay and Firefox suddenly could not access process.tomsawyer.com and build.tomsawyer.com on macOS.

I quit and restarted Firefox in between each change of settings for iCloud > Private Relay.

I did this Private Relay on and off a couple of more times, yes turning it on breaks Firefox on macOS when accessing internal company websites.

This reminds me of the old days where Windows and Internet Explorer were intertwined. Apple is doing something similar to what Microsoft used to do in the bad old days with Internet Explorer.

I've been literally struggling for months and months, and now I use Brave happily. I'll hope my Firefox problems are now solved but the Firefox team should work with Apple and address this iCloud > Private Relay problem together.

Good luck!

Thanks, Brendan Madden CEO Tom Sawyer Software

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Why are you censoring websites?

This morning I was able to access the website of: https://www.alexander-wallasch.de/ Now, ONE HOUR later I no longer can. You are doing this not for the first time, … (funda kabanzi)

This morning I was able to access the website of: https://www.alexander-wallasch.de/ Now, ONE HOUR later I no longer can. You are doing this not for the first time, it happens regularly with websites that do not conform to what you would consider Mainstream! THis is not the sites fault. YOU ARE CENSORING ON PURPOSE: IF YOU WOULD NOT; YOU COULD SIMPLY ADD A BUTTON for every site THAT ALLOWS USERS TO OVERRIDE YOUR OPINIONS: WHY IS THAT NOT HAPPENBING? Why can the user not override your decision? Has anyone ever asked you for "help" like that?

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Firefox won't load specific sites

Hi, I'm having trouble accessing only certain sites via Firefox. I have already cleared my cache/cookies, etc. Firefox is up to date. Proxy settings are set to "Use syste… (funda kabanzi)

Hi, I'm having trouble accessing only certain sites via Firefox. I have already cleared my cache/cookies, etc. Firefox is up to date. Proxy settings are set to "Use system proxy settings."

Following links from other sites sometimes (but not always) works, but typing in a URL or search term to the address bar results in an "Unable to connect" notice.

Examples of sites: Working: google.com instagram.com mozilla.org (main site works fine, support.mozilla.org loads only as an unformatted list of links) netflix.com

Not working: usps.com goodreads.com storygraph.com firefox.com duckduckgo.com oregonwalks.org ucla.edu

Thanks for your help!

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