I-Firefox Isithangami Sokwesekwa

Sorry to rub salt into old wounds but this quote from a 2014 support post expresses my feelings exactly:

"What's the point of a 'tab' if there's no tab? Text floating around at the top of the page is not a tab."

First time I can say I HATE WHAT YOU DID. WHY????????????? is there NO option to use old browser settings and look? I have spent a whole day 'fixing' trying to fix the mess you made. I am visually impaired and all my settings are POOH GONE!!!! Who's idea is it to put this grey text on white background? Must be nice to have good eyes.

  PLEASE GIVE US UNDO option to go back.  So NOT up to your standards...must have hired the 5th graders to do the work.  MOST UPSET, NOT HAPPY AND VERY FRUSTRATED.
  And don't tell me to "look" at the ways to Fix it...I have.  Don't understand it as I'm not a 5th grader I'm in my 70's.

Peg

First of all: I tried to "give feedback" first, by going to that crowdicity website. I had to create an account, then I created an "idea" but it wasn't even allowed by the mods.

The 89 design is not user friendly, it takes away too much of my screen. I want to see the website, not some bloated tabs. And what on earth is meant by unsupported in the customize menu when I try to select compact? I always recommendet Firefox, among my friends and family as well as among my customers. Since day 1 I was with you, but this is just the absolute opposite of user friendliness. Even Microsoft Edge shows more of the actual website, I'm trying to look at. No "unsupported" compact mode needed, it is already even less obstrusive than that.

There were so many users who begged you not to do this. But you didn't listen. I want to be nice and kind but you gotta listen to your users, not just rely on your telemetry data. If someone chooses to install Firefox, a lot of people have the ability and knowledge to turn off that stuff. Those are your most loyal users. Listen to them.

The new base system theme for FireFox is not accessible. I cannot visually tell when one tab shifts to another. Three's not enough contrast. There's no line that marks the shift from one tab to the next. I tried countless contributor themes and they're all lacking the same feature - a physical break between tabs. Fades on text are also not accessible. Please fix this issue!

Thank you, Nanette visual deficits in Minnesota

Is there anyway to restore the format (compactness) of the Bookmark Menus without setting the Automatic Updates to not automatically update and then downloading the 88.0.1 version? I hate to not have the Automatic Updates, for obvious reasons, but don't want to use the double space of the Bookmarks even more.

I understand that there's this help page, but a lot of times site developers right click and hotkeys disabled for security reasons and this renders me unable to take a screenshot of a website.

I've also tried to add "Take a Screenshot" button from "Customize Toolbar" option to my toolbar, but most of the time it is disabled, even on support.mozilla.org page. To enable it, I need to remove it and re-adding it again with "Customize Toolbar" option.

Is there any way to re-enable "Take a Screenshot" option in 3-Dot menu? If not, is there any sane way to keep "Take a Screenshot" enabled for the rest of my Firefox session without me needing to remove and re-add it again everytime I need to take a screenshot?

Help, how can I go BACK to the last version of Firefox?? I HATE Version 89. Not only do the new tabs all blend in with each other because they're all the same color, but they're placed lower in the screen and add a strip of unused dead space along the top of screen, which means the content I want to see is all pushed down into a smaller, squished space. Arg - already getting high blood pressure trying to navigate it!

Seburo Seburo

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Today at 8:30 AM

Hi

I am going to close this thread as it appears to be a duplicate of:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1339264

I am not seeing any support request here for us to action or to assist

My previous thread locked yet again. There are several obvious questions and requests for support, yet the mod Seburo cant see them, or is choosing not to. So i'm staretring over again. Watch, here comes the disabled get bullied yet again.

In typical fashion, mozilla volunteers insist o go rewrite my letter somewhere else, on a dif page, on a dif site, in a dif location.

AGAIN, these concepts are ridiculous and not based in reality. In other forums, mods simply move posts to the appropriate topics.

Mozilla volunteers are now insisting we spend years learning and understanding the layout of their 1 forum, in order to post in what is their opinion of the proper location. If I could figure that out my own, I would have done so. But I couldn't. Mozilla makes it hard. \ So i'm reposting yet again, to show the world how this sector of human society continually gets pushed around and bullied, even when seeking support, and ZERO HELP IS EVER FORTHCOMING.

greetings,

the autistic and aspergers sector of society has an extremely difficult time with change. They have made petitions, submitted emotional testimony online in your forums, etc, and there has been a complete lack of response.

There is gobs of scientific data around this globally, and overzealous overlords in tech constantly change the way the product looks, ignoring the science. These changes do nothing for functionality for 99% of people, and doesn't generate revenue for anyone.

What it does do, is it harms, disengages, and disenfranchises this entire group of society. Where they already have an extremely difficult time, the tech world continues to march away from logic, science, and evidence, insisting decorative changes are necessary and required, when the reality is we all know, there is an over the top engineer or designer at 4am on a sunday going "OMG CHARLIE LOOK AT THIS FONT!!!!! IMPLEMENTING IT NOW!!!!!! OMG THIS BUTTON NEEDS TO BE OVER HERE NOW!!!!!"

And then, they force us to accept these changes, without warning, teaching or sharing the change, and without giving the majority the information they need, or the ability to understand or even use the change.

These changes toss their family and home lives into chaos, stress, weeks of slow, turtle like crawl back towards some stability in these humans lives. In extreme cases, these individuals can be physically violent with their family because they have social disabilities, emotionally damaging relations, love, and kindness, simply because the tech world is full of 1 up man ship, instead of logic or compassion.

The tech world can literally design build and create anything, except the concept of no change for those that need it most.

Every time there is these fundamental changes either to design or functionality, these humans retreat from the life they have that comforts them, they lose advancements in their personal lives, and it disturbs and can harm their well being, their home lives, and their relationships with their care takers.

The latest update for your browser changed my childs right click menu, that he spent months learning about how to change and setup for himself. He cannot understand or comprehend how he laboured for what to him seems to be an eternity, and one day when he fires his browser up, all his hard work is gone, that he literally spent months learning.

This time, because he cant reach his emotions, because of the changes firefox forcibly deepthroats planet earth with, he picked up his laptop and threw it out the rear window of the house, a total cost to repair and replace all damages amounting to just under $8000.

Because someone changed his personal stuff. In his private space. Located in his personal house, where he lives in privacy with his family. WHY WOULD THAT CHANGE? WHY SHOULD THAT CHANGE?. HIS PERSONAL ITEMS CHANGED IN HIS PRIVATE LIFE. And no one told him. No one educated him on it. No one told him why it would be better. No one provided him with the tools to use it. He spent months learning this stuff, and one day he woke up and his effort was erased from the planet.

Keep up the good work.

We're all wondering why this stuff is all ok?

Why is it ok to take a virtual machete to someone else's hard work because someone wants a different color?

Henry Ford never went into that car you bought, and changed the location of the steering wheel or the pedals.

Thomas Edison never went into your house, and changed out the light switches for a new design or shape.

GE never went into any ones home and changed the plastic bezel on our tv's.

But all of a sudden, we have a tech world where the only constant, is change. Change of colors and buttons, which in most cases, the business world of making money, keeps saying is costing us, as a society, billions now, and its not generating revenue, its a loss and write off. The business world struggles to keep up with dynamic products, reeducating and relearning, because some digital exist in a logic vacuum.

Speaking of losses, even the general public sees little to no value in change that serves nothing but whimful designers. In fact, the majority of research indicates that the public would rather be able to makes their own style and design changes, instead of the dynamic, impossible to keep up with changes that have morphed into a false idea of progress in the computer world.

CHANGING COLORS AND BUTTONS AND FONTS IS KILLING THESE VERY SPECIAL PEOPLE INSIDE. AND IT ISN'T THEIR FAULT. ITS A DISABILITY

When can we expect Firefox to reach the reality that the public already knows?

This was also sent as an email, to mozilla press, via the web form. As of today, the recieving email address is unknown and hidden, because instead of posting a public address, mozilla uses a web form preventing a submitter from retaining a copy for themselves in most cases, in the form of sent mail. That in and of itself, at face value, appears to be intentional, a deceptive process of false engagement. Another disturbing fact in all this, is that more and more companies are hiding the who/what/where/why of their leadership.

As an individual, i am becoming more and more leery of companies and organizations that hide all forms of contacts and insist people use a forum, where they may or may not get a response, resulting in zero accountability in most cases. (When organizations ask for free public volunteers to be members and help the public, that amounts to social theft. Multiple countries on earth have outlawed this type of behavior, as it resembles an unpaid internship, resulting in free monetary maintenance value for profit oriented organizations, which I acknowledge firefox is not).

If an email submitter cant archive or even retain a sent email, because their point of contact was forcibly moved to an unaccountable web form, any organization can deny all existence of submissions, and thus wash their hands of all responsibility and plead ignorance.

If your organization truly advocates for a healthy internet as it virtue signals, then this letter would never have been necessary.

Every single person on earth, is trying to understand, for 25 years, why our lap top and computer screens are 14 to 20 inches wide, and when we send an email or forum submission to firefox, all the text exists inside a 2 inch by 2 inch window, with 10 inches of unused dead space surrounding the text field, complicating and making editing and fluid reading 100% impossible. We cant read 1 complete line at once, we have to scroll and scroll and scroll in order to read 1 SINGLE SENTENCE. And then you forget what you typed in the previous line because your eyes cant flit and read it in an instant, you have to grab a mouse and scroll, causing you to forget what you were trying to edit, making you go back and find the questionable entry all over again, repeating the process. Tiny text entry boxes are personal time thieves, requiring more effort and time to use. And then because the text box is so small, some people simply write in MS Word or a text document, and copy pasta it over, because you can see multiple lines and paragraphs simultaneously, simplifying and smoothing the editing and proof reading process, all because of a design fail that has been implemented globally as good because its something different than what to used to exist, when we all admit the functionality is a complete failure in all aspects.

Imagine that. Not using the firefox submission form makes life easier to contact firefox. WOW. What a paradox.

These are absolutely preposterous concepts, yet they have existed for 25 years and more. Everyone I know objects, and finds it ridiculous. Yet it persists.

We keep pushing people away and disengaging some, because the rest can cope or deal, or simply to choose assimilate because they feel 100% powerless to have a voice.

The new tab "button" hovers over the browser, and to my aspergers child, seems to be disconnected from the tab and in the wrong place. With no ability to fix, commence bay glass window shatter countdown.

$8000 repair bill in 10, 9, 8, 7, 6........

.....because layouts, colors, button placements and designs, are changed. And nobody asked for it.

               Addendum: I have always set up my mouse to scroll 3 lines with a scroll. This letter, takes me 4 minutes to scroll through, even thought it is only 1 page. Because the text box is 2 inches wide**** 

What a ridiculous waste of time, effort, energy, and my life. Thanks firefox. Thanks for promoting a healthy and safe internet.

To add to the above, i made an account or something to post this on this forum, i never save passwords or logins for any accounts and ff displays no known logins or passwords in my settings, yet this site has only ever asked me to login once, somehow somewhwere saving my information that i dont want saved, anywhere anyhow.

to furthur add insult to injury, the most used font on earth is helvitica, which has been removed from the entire firefox browser.

We are now expected to all be engineers and developers and self code our browsers to provide basic functionality to ourselves.

What an absolute slap in the face to human beings.

Thanks again for promoting that healthy internet.

Note for Serburo: If you actually honestly read my post, you will find multiple questions, and multiple requests for support. Do not lock without proper responses this time, as you have now violated the firefox support mandate twice.

Hi,

Firefox has just updated itself on my laptop and the tab size is now too big. It just feels like a huge strip of the top of the screen is now being wasted. Is there a way to reduce the size of the tabs?

Thanks.

I finally turned off the menu bar some time back and started using the Bookmarks Menu Button (the little star with an underline). With v89, the dropdown menu from this is huge. The fonts are a lot bigger than in v88, and for some reason, there are now two "Manage bookmarks" items, one at the top and one at the bottom. Is there any way, either official or through userChrome.css, to choose a small font? I already have a userChrome.css that I used to remove items from the old Bookmarks menu on the menu bar, but those don't apply to the BM Button.

With the last update to Firefox 87, in the context menu (right clicking), the "View image info" disappeared - in dutch "Afbeeldingsinfo bekijken". How can I get it back?

How to remove the search bar above the URL line?

This seems to have been added very recently. Can not find any way yo to it thru Settings, etc.

Thanks, Jim

W7 HP 64B. After the recent v89 update I have to ask, "why" ? Why change to wire icons ? Why not give me that option instead of you forcing it ? Why make themes when they don't change to what I want ? Why make the margin at the top of the screen larger ? Why should I have to try and "about:config: , to change something back ? Why are you not aware of the people you are forcing to use Chrome ? Who are you taking "MY CHOICES" away ? Are you demonicrats ? Why should I continue to use FF, when you have no answers, just rhetoric ?

I really dislike the new version of Firefox - as with everything these days, it seems to be tablet/phone-oriented whilst I continue to be a PC dinosaur.

For example, some websites are now showing up with hefty vertical borders ... and particularly annoying for me is the leading (i.e. vertical spacing) on the dropdowns, especially Bookmarks which I use frequently. The fact that it's so much 'spacier' means that I have a lot more scrolling down to do!

I've stuck with Firefox through thick and thin over many years now, but if there isn't some way to change this - or revert (permanently - i.e. not to be thrown into the air again at the next update) - I'll be seriously thinking of jumping ship to the evil Chrome or Edge.

Any advice welcome!

Just updated to latest Version 89.0. Rebooting the PC all of Firefox's colors changed to terrible washed out colors. Reading other inquiries I tried running the extension "Firefox Colors" but it didn't help. How do I reset to original default colors? Sincerely, DDBob.

I use the browser-integrated snipping/screen-shot tool constantly. Today I discovered that it is no longer available from the three dot menu in the address bar. Why? Can it be restored? Has it been relocated? Discontinued? This is one of the primary features that I rely on in Firefox.

holy shit boys, what is this pixel-tall gap between tabs and bars

tried applying any standard theme available and currently using my own custom, any visual mode like normal/compact and still this gap is present

hardware acceleration is on

tried reopening FF, fresh windows boot