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Hey all!

I was just wondering why when you were platforming as one of the only browsers that didn't use AI, a CEO change-over was enough to completely backtrack on the values of the company to instead push for a use of AI. As a concerned adult I'm no longer able to verify accurate information in my searches because the first things to come up are AI inventions of information, not the actual websites that people put time and effort into running to ensure we get as close to human information as possible.

Is it true that the CEO is planning to put AI into the browser? If so, I would have to switch to something else because that would be a massive privacy and security violation. I am incredibly disappointed that this is something Ive heard about when Mozilla Firefox has been one of the best browsers Ive ever used. Putting AI into everything is a waste of everyones time and resources.

To the Firefox development community:

I started using Firefox... well, before it was Firefox. In the early browser wars, I was a devotee of Netscape. After high school, Firefox became a thing, and I was an early adopter. For years I eagerly spoke of the glories of the open source browser, and even when Chrome came around with its "new hotness", I stuck with Firefox. It was, I reckoned, just better.

However, something has happened which has shaken my faith in the browser - and in the Mozilla foundation entirely. As the whole internet screams "WE DO NOT WANT AI", as Valve gets endless kudos from its userbase and a reputation as "the only good monopoly" because it forces its game listings to have disclaimers if AI touches games in any way, and as it becomes known that ChatGPT is pushing teens to suicide...

Mozilla has decided "hey we want that in our browser!"

No.

No.

No.

No.

No.

This is the greatest betrayal of a userbase I can imagine. LLMs are the antithesis to the open-source, "you can see what goes into it" mindset that Firefox has had for over 20 years. It is bloat. It is built on plagiarism - by default, all LLMs are built by scraping huge amounts of data that their designers do not own.

Thankfully, there IS a branch of Firefox that does not use AI - the Waterfox project - and I will be turning my attention there. But mark my words - by deciding that the last holdout against putting AI in everything SHOULD put AI in it, you have soured an incredible amount of the goodwill that you have built up.

My personal recommendation: Fire the idiot who made this decision and replace him with ANYONE who has a modicum of sense in the Foundation.

As a last comment, I will say that I am ending it here because I believe this says enough of what I am thinking and feeling at the moment; if I was to say everything it would be approximately 90 pages long and be 35% obscenity by volume, and I don't think the forum rules allow that. Good evening, and may Mark Surman stub his toe every 129 seconds for the rest of his life.

I have no interest in it and view it as a security risk and liability. I've been using Firefox for over a decade, every since I realized how horrible Google is. Why the heck would Mozilla do this?

I am firmly against the application of AI into Firefox as a browser. If the supposed plans to integrate AI into Firefox come into fruition, I will not only look at installing another browser, but I will personally go to every person I know and advise they do the same. I will not support the business model of a company that puts profit above the wants and needs of its customers. I would hate to see the good name of Firefox be lost to misguided efforts to follow the AI hype to it's detriment.

Saw a bunch of news articles that said Mozilla has a new CEO who wants to make Firefox a modern AI browser. Fuck that. If I have to spend more than 30 seconds gouging AI bullshit out of the heart of your product, I will stop using it immediately and resort to open source alternatives. Not a question, just a warning. I don't use social media so send this to your PR department or whatever.

More of a suggestion than a question - I've been using Firefox for 20 years because of it's focus on privacy and it's lack of pushing trendy slop options (Sloptions?). Almost everyone who uses Firefox is going to be doing so because of this - It's what it's known for and is what makes it unique compared to other search engines. What is going on with the pushing of AI? At they very least make it easy to disable it, that's the bare minimum. This is such a weird shift for the company after years of differentiating itself and with a loyal user base who are using Firefox to avoid this. Why would we be here if not because Firefox is different? Please stop pushing this kind of crap!

have you gone mad??? why would you want to add ai bullshit to firefox? the only reason people use firefox is because you aren't doing all that bullshit, and stealing all our data

Why is Firefox leanining into this ai nonsense? Its antithetical to privacy amd security, it slows down the browser for no benefit, so i end up jumping through hoops to turn it all off. If I wanted AI, I'd be using chrome or edge. I don't want AI. If firrfox continues to shove this ai onto us i'll have to switch again. Its self sabotage at this point

I am so disappointing in the CEO's decision to push AI. Firefox has a very dedicated following BECAUSE it does not push AI and all the other shady things other Browsers push. Everyone I know will stop using Mozilla browsers if they continue on in implementing AI.

I have spent so many hours deleting every sneaky file, disabling every program, having all firewalls block any AI. (I really do need to switch to Linux with the amount of time I spend on this lol...)

How do we contact the higher ups? If large numbers of users emailed/heck even wrote (making a point that we will delete our Mozilla accounts if AI happens) maybe it could help? Or a petition?

I use Firefox for privacy, lack of bloat, and other ethical reasons. For these reasons, I don't want to have the new CEO keep the incorrect idea in his head that the people who use Firefox want AI. Please don't add more AI, if anything--- please remove the AI which has already been added to Firefox which users have to remove themselves. I will dump Firefox if the new CEO continues with this plan.

I've used Firefox for a long time because it's been one of the few browsers that doesn't force features that harm its users onto the userbase. It's been leagues beyond the majority for that long time! The introduction of AI features over time has been a bell ringing for the loss of that thoughtful approach to aiding the users. AI in browsers has been used by malicious third parties to steal the data of anyone who visits specific sites, it's prone to misinformation when used to summarize anything, and simply doesn't add any value to the browsing experience. It gets in the way and slows it down, even! If more AI features are added, I will be finding a different browser to use.

I use Firefox because it has less AI bull than other browsers, and even then I still have to use config to get rid of all the stuff you've already added. It's irritating to have to do it. Stop adding more and remove the garbage AI stuff you've already added. Thanks

Just wanted to add my voice to the complaints about further AI being added to firefox. Firefox as a browser is a refuge from the enshittification of the internet as a whole, with it being one of the few non-chromium browser options, please dont join in the effort to force AI on everyone. At the very least it shouldnt take multiple options to disable AI in my browser. But at best I would love to see firefox development focused on performance rather than more AI bullshit that only CEO's want.

There are so many reasons why people don't want AI on Firefox. If I wanted AI, I'd go and use a chromium browser. I came to Firefox to get away from AI bull, not to have it shoved down my throat here as well.

If the new AI changes roll out I'm going to be finding another browser that won't risk my privacy just for a machine that only works half the time or add to AI centers destroying the environment. Thanks!

Just wanted to add my voice and say that I'm seriously disappointed with the change in the company's stance regarding generative AI. I only started using firefox recently, specifically because it doesn't shove AI slop down my throat, and of course that's already changing. The literal only consolation is that it sounds like I'll be able to turn it off in settings, but that isn't good enough. At this rate the enshittification of the entire internet is looking inevitable...

I use Firefox because it has better privacy and it's faster/more lightweight than other browsers. Now, more and more AI features are showing up, which harm both privacy and efficiency. If I wanted AI in my browser, I would go use any other browser. I use Firefox specifically because it doesn't do things like this, and I'm very disappointed to see it turn into every other browser full of AI.

"hi yes we're firefox, a private browser that prides ourselves on being without bloatware. but we're going to add ai integration! yay!" Are you kidding me? What is wrong with you? This new CEO joins and wants to destroy what Firefox *prides itself on* and WHY PEOPLE use it. I am very disappointed. I converted to Mozilla from Google years ago and have loved it ever since. It's such an absolute shame; I will have to find a new company to support. Was the point of Mozilla not to create private, secure programs? Do not integrate AI. We don't want it. We hate it. It's useless and it kills the earth. And I sure as heck won't be comfortable storing my passwords in my account anymore! You will destroy this.

Firefox is the ine major browser on the market that DOESN'T have much of this stuff and actually kinda cares about privacy. Why take that away? You're only driving away your main userbase. If you continue shoving AI down our throats like everyone else I'm gonna have to find an alternative.