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The I-do-not-like-Firefox-29-layout topic

(For Forum Moderators: Please read /forums/forum-moderators/710264?last=59300) Moderators, please read first before closing/removing this topic right away? To those want… (funda kabanzi)

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Moderators, please read first before closing/removing this topic right away?
To those wanting to react here on this topic: please, also read ;)
Since my original posting https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/997009 was closed because one of the moderators felt it was going off-topic (although it was red a lot and had 131 "have-this-problem" in just a few days), here a kind of re-opening but on-topic.
Why? Because I feel we have the right to express our feelings on this major change. And publicly there is actually only this forum where that can be done on the Mozilla.org domain.
Sure, the change is there and we have to live with it (if we choose to). But that doesn't mean we can not have our voice here because after many, many years of supporting FF with our use, we suddenly are facing a layout we were always running away from.
So yes, that can cause ranting and so on (within the forum rules of course) because people feel strongly about there beloved browser.
(edit rules link note the whole topic is ordinarily outside the scope of the forum ... Posts in the Mozilla support forum must be either questions about the use of Firefox, ... Users who post about things other than Mozilla support will be directed to an alternative discussion place .... . ~J99)

Plus this way you can centralize all the negatives here instead of a lot of separate postings about the same subject ;)
To the people reacting here in this topic: there is only 1 real way to let Mozilla itself know how you feel on the new lay out and that is not through this forum. The way is to go to https://input.mozilla.org/feedback/ and let it know there.
edit You need to use a supported Firefox to post Feedback so that will soon not be possible from Fx28 2nd edit. I was wrong feedback works with any version of Fiefpx now~J99

And I think when that is done in normal words (so no f*ck you rants and so on) and suggestions, then maybe, just maybe, it has some effect.
Also, there is an Mozilla support page with info on how to get the "old look" back, see How to make the new Firefox look like the old FirefoxBut it will only partly restore the old look, certain FF29 things can not be changed.

And yes, I myself am back to Firefox 28 which is not supported or suggested by Mozilla because it has things (bugs and security) that are not fixed in it. (Edit Please use Official downloads if you must downgrade links in Install an older version of Firefox and the growing list of exploits you will open yourself up to is listed here: https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox.html ~J99)

I am not suggesting or advertising to others to do the same. It is a risk I am willing to take and only say it is an option.
edit My reason to go back to FF 28 is because that version still has the intuitive feel and look Firefox one was praised for. With a logical lay out and a good way to simply customize it (also in about:config).
For those who say/think "Come one man, stop whining! Grow up and just accept that Firefox has to go with its time!", to them I say: nope ;)

First edit Modified May 10, 2014 7:54:58 PM BST by John99
2nd: re feedback

Asked by meegja 6 iminyaka edlule

Answered by meegja 6 iminyaka edlule

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Firefox 29 is full of problems.

- Session restore brings up tabs that I had closed before closing Firefox. Sometimes it even selects a tab that I didn't have selected when I closed it. - Leaking memory … (funda kabanzi)

- Session restore brings up tabs that I had closed before closing Firefox. Sometimes it even selects a tab that I didn't have selected when I closed it.

- Leaking memory like nobody's business. It went from 500 MB to 1.5 GB overnight (i.e. while it was "idling" minimized on the desktop).

- The config.trim_on_minimize setting is missing. Why is this?

- When the memory usage gets above ~1 GB (FYI, this is a guess), I start seeing problems with Firefox displaying web-page graphics and even, in one instance, shutting down text input on a web page (this was within Facebook).

- Randomly crashes for no apparent reason. FYI, this happened after I updated to Firefox 28 as well.

None of these problems ever happened before I upgraded to Firefox 28 and 29. I'm very close to abandoning Firefox altogether if these problems are not resolved promptly and permanently. In other words, I've nearly had enough of this. Whatever happened to "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"?

Asked by robbyrob 6 iminyaka edlule

Last reply by John99 6 iminyaka edlule

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Firefox 30 won't start, hangs after closing (Bug1004476)

Hello, everyone! I've filed a bug report here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1004476 The problem is that after installing Firefox 29 with no profile at all… (funda kabanzi)

Hello, everyone!

I've filed a bug report here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1004476 The problem is that after installing Firefox 29 with no profile at all and installing any addon that requires a browser restart (NoScript for e.g.) Firefox restarts OK, but after closing it and trying to open again I get a message: "Firefox is already running". I can see in the Task Manager that there is already Firefox running in the background. I've found several people complaining about this issue. Here: http://forums.informaction.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=19612 And here: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2825639

Thank you in advance

Modified May 13, 2014 11:01:46 PM BST by John99


2nd Update. (Comment by a moderator)
Engineers are working on issues that have been identified.
The known issues are problems with Firefox hanging on closedown resulting in Firefox not restarting unless the hung process is killed.

Workaround ensure Firefox is NOT set to clear History on Close down
Use NewButton New Fx Menu → Preferences → |Privacy| Firefox will: [Remember History v ]
See also my post downthread /questions/997918?page=2#answer-572501 ~J99

 Modified June 5, 2014 12:26:07 AM BST by John99

3rd Update

A fix is now on the Beta Channel Fx30b8 hopefully in a couple of weeks that will be on everyone's Release of Firefox30.

Asked by TheExplorer 6 iminyaka edlule

Answered by TheExplorer 6 iminyaka edlule

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high CPU usage

after updating to firefox 29 and then 29.0.1, the cpu usage that firefox are using are insane, it ranges between 50%-100% cpu usage. and it happens even on normal non fla… (funda kabanzi)

after updating to firefox 29 and then 29.0.1, the cpu usage that firefox are using are insane,

it ranges between 50%-100% cpu usage.

and it happens even on normal non flash tab,

besides even if the site is using flash, i am using flash block and adblock plus,

so anykind of flash material wont play or uses cpu.

please fix this ASAP, because firefox has now gone from useable to resource hog,

oh and i don't like the new look, because firefox has become more similar to chrome on User interface,

and i don't use chrome, because i don't like the UI, and now firefox tried to be chrome twin ?

i think that's all, thanks in advance.

edit : fixed some typo

Asked by DM789 6 iminyaka edlule

Answered by DM789 6 iminyaka edlule

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29 looks just awefull, how to completly revert back to 28?

I did update to FF 29 and to my horror it just looks awful and makes no sense at all anymore :( Seems somehow FF thinks it's wise to make it look like other browsers :( I… (funda kabanzi)

I did update to FF 29 and to my horror it just looks awful and makes no sense at all anymore :( Seems somehow FF thinks it's wise to make it look like other browsers :( I did try the "old look"-add on, did try the add-ons to get buttons back on the bottom (which is the most logical place for them), and so on. But the overall look just stays awful :( Until there is an option where I can get the real and logical version 28 layout back, where is a complete version of FF 28 so I can use a logical layout FF browser?

Asked by meegja 6 iminyaka edlule

Last reply by Moses 6 iminyaka edlule

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Can color be added back to inactive tabs?

On the new version of Firefox the inactive tabs are clear and the writing in them almost disappears against my rotating backgrounds. Can the Mozilla team add some color b… (funda kabanzi)

On the new version of Firefox the inactive tabs are clear and the writing in them almost disappears against my rotating backgrounds. Can the Mozilla team add some color back to the inactive tabs? I'd rather not have to install an add-on that mimics previous versions where the tabs had color. Thanks.

Asked by hlflqd 6 iminyaka edlule

Answered by jscher2000 6 iminyaka edlule

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default 29.0 sucks and now crying with agony and despair.

im not sure i can live with this. i need my original firefox back. this version is no good. how do i get the previous theme with my orange firefox button and grey top ? … (funda kabanzi)

im not sure i can live with this. i need my original firefox back. this version is no good. how do i get the previous theme with my orange firefox button and grey top ?

im am positive that i did not say to update. it just did it on its own. now its gay blue. whats worse is there is a gradient into the gay blue. horrible and i need help to get rid of it.

it wouldve made more sense to put the icons on the left. and leave the search on the right where it belongs.

if i redownload 28, how do i stop it from updating again?

Asked by sparxx 6 iminyaka edlule

Answered by sparxx 6 iminyaka edlule

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How can I put the Tabs back below the navigation bar? I immensely do NOT like the navigation bar under the Tabs. Thanks.

Versions prior to 29 allow me to about:config to put Tabs below the navigation bar. Now this configuration no longer works. It is HUGELY annoying!! How can I configure th… (funda kabanzi)

Versions prior to 29 allow me to about:config to put Tabs below the navigation bar. Now this configuration no longer works. It is HUGELY annoying!!

How can I configure the Tabs back where they are most useful, below the navigation bar?

Thank you.

asked and a "solution" was posted - locking this thread to keep it from going further off-topic - Ed

Asked by Cole Mayes 6 iminyaka edlule

Answered by Cole Mayes 6 iminyaka edlule

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Why does Firefox 29.0.1 keep crashing?

Since I updated to version 29.0.1 Firefox is crashing daily. Before this latest update I had no problems. I've gone through support and tried every suggestion (safe mode,… (funda kabanzi)

Since I updated to version 29.0.1 Firefox is crashing daily. Before this latest update I had no problems. I've gone through support and tried every suggestion (safe mode, made sure all drivers are up-to-date, uninstalled and reinstalled, etc.) and yet it still crashes. I desperately need my browser to work flawlessly for my work, otherwise, regretfully, I am going to have to use another browser. Here are a couple of my crash reports:

bp-dc242b7c-781f-458b-abc0-45eba2140525 bp-3761933f-8b46-4aef-ad5f-0e6ff2140524

If anyone can help me stop Firefox from crashing, I will be eternally grateful.

Asked by Vici 6 iminyaka edlule

Last reply by John99 6 iminyaka edlule

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How do I move the Bookmarks Toolbar above the tabs in 29.0?

Before the update, I was able to use Stylish to get this functionality. However, something is broken with how -moz-box-ordinal-group functions. The only valid entries ar… (funda kabanzi)

Before the update, I was able to use Stylish to get this functionality. However, something is broken with how -moz-box-ordinal-group functions. The only valid entries are 0 (places it above the Menu Bar) or !0 (places it at the very bottom).

Neither of those two places are what I desire. Here is what I'm aiming for, from top to bottom:

Menu Bar
Bookmarks Toolbar
Tabs
Address Bar

See this Stylish for a picture of what I used to have:
http://userstyles.org/styles/46274/firefox-4-bookmarks-toolbar-above-tabs-enhanced

So, my question here is, how can I restore this functionality? Having bookmarks below the address bar does not follow logic, in my mind. And this "now things are easy to customize how you want it!" thing that Australis is supposed to allow... doesn't let me customize it how I want it.

Any help would be appreciated, be it a config setting, a plugin, or some CSS I can plug into Stylish.

Asked by wyrenth 6 iminyaka edlule

Answered by Gingerbread Man 6 iminyaka edlule

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FF29 has deactivated moving tabs to bottom

FF29 has deactivated moving tabs to bottom - i.e. closer to work area, FORCING users to move the pointer farther to select a tab. about:config setting no longer works. Wo… (funda kabanzi)

FF29 has deactivated moving tabs to bottom - i.e. closer to work area, FORCING users to move the pointer farther to select a tab. about:config setting no longer works. Would someone please explain how removing this option is beneficial to users?

.... just more "we are smarted than you, and know better than you what is best for you" elitist crap.

And don't tell me to use an extension, they come and go, don't work after updates, etc.


Moderator locking this thread. The thread Owner never returned and this thread has strayed off-topic too often. I think users needing Firefox 29 support would be better served by starting their own Questions thread.
Ed

Asked by WmOrt 6 iminyaka edlule

Last reply by the-edmeister 6 iminyaka edlule

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Firefox 29 no longer prints properly from the built in PDF viewer

I print several EBAY labels a day. Just upgraded to firefox 29 (not realizing really what had changed - now regretting) and the built in PDF viewer no longer prints prope… (funda kabanzi)

I print several EBAY labels a day. Just upgraded to firefox 29 (not realizing really what had changed - now regretting) and the built in PDF viewer no longer prints properly. It shows the label fine on the screen, but when sending to the printer (I tried two different ones) it just prints out two blanks pages. I tried a number of different printer settings and as i mentioned two different printers. Can't get anything to print now except two blank pages. If I switch the application settings in firefox to use an external 3rd party PDF viewer (e.g. Adobe reader 11, PDF Viewer plus, etc) those work fine. However, the default built in PDF viewer clearly broke in this new version. A very disappointing launch for me as this is critical feature for my use. Yes, I have a work around, but the point (and new bug) is still valid.

Asked by jimkarl 6 iminyaka edlule

Answered by philipp 6 iminyaka edlule

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How to get tabs under adressbar, if setting "browser.tabs.onTop" to "false" does not work?

I know that firefox once put the tabs on top, but I had that fixed with setting in "about:config" the value for "browser.tabs.onTop" to "false". Now, after upgrading Fire… (funda kabanzi)

I know that firefox once put the tabs on top, but I had that fixed with setting in "about:config" the value for "browser.tabs.onTop" to "false". Now, after upgrading Firefox to v.29 this entry is still set to the false value, however, I can't get the tabs below the adressbar (which is super annoying). Any ideas how to resolve this?

Asked by freibadschwimmer 6 iminyaka edlule

Answered by cor-el 6 iminyaka edlule

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Revert back to older version

Sorry guys, i am disgusted with this upgrade. 29 does not seem like a good ui update at all. The menu bar looks really bad and so does the tab. Furthermore this does not … (funda kabanzi)

Sorry guys, i am disgusted with this upgrade. 29 does not seem like a good ui update at all. The menu bar looks really bad and so does the tab. Furthermore this does not solve my other tab issue i have either in another question i have asked.

How can i revert back to my last version with all my tabs/windows/history restored? I will do a system restore if i have to and then cancel all automatic updates. I honestly dont care if it gives me a bigger security risk.

Asked by MajorFoley 6 iminyaka edlule

Answered by Moses 6 iminyaka edlule

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Can we have the newtab page as an option for the startup page?

When Firefox starts we currently have the choice of the home page, a blank page or windows and tabs from last time. Can we have the newtab page added to the drop down cho… (funda kabanzi)

When Firefox starts we currently have the choice of the home page, a blank page or windows and tabs from last time. Can we have the newtab page added to the drop down choices in >Options >General ? I don't need responses that provide work-arounds such as those listed in How do I set the startup page to the new tab page? thanks.

Asked by ChrisAO 6 iminyaka edlule

Answered by cor-el 6 iminyaka edlule

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New FireFox 29 upgrade keeps experiencing " Firefox is alreay running" errors.

I'm running Windows 8.1 and was using Firefox seamlessly. Since the upgrade to Firefox 29, it keeps experiencing " Firefox is already running" errors. I then have to end… (funda kabanzi)

I'm running Windows 8.1 and was using Firefox seamlessly. Since the upgrade to Firefox 29, it keeps experiencing " Firefox is already running" errors. I then have to end it in task manager to launch it. I've deleted the parent.lock several times with no luck. I've uninstalled and reinstalled Firefox several times with no luck. I'm using Windows firewall and Avast Antivirus. I even uninstalled Avast temporarily, in case it was causing problems, no change. I have Firefox on my daughter computer and it's been upgraded to Firefox 29 as well. Her computer is running Windows 7 and experiencing no problems. Please help, I've resorted to using IE11. I don't like chrome, opera, etc and want to return to Firefox.

Asked by total 6 iminyaka edlule

Answered by Moses 6 iminyaka edlule

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why is firefox continually updating itself, despite being set to never update, done it 4 bloody times now

I saw the utter uselessness of version 29, removing many of the useful buttons etc. Once I saw it I pretty quickly went back up to v 28, a useful version. Since then it h… (funda kabanzi)

I saw the utter uselessness of version 29, removing many of the useful buttons etc. Once I saw it I pretty quickly went back up to v 28, a useful version. Since then it has gone back to v 29 4 times, despite being set to never update itself, precisely to avoid it doing this. Frankly this is a virus like behaviour. If the v29 was actually an improvement over 28 I would have updated to it, but it is crap so I do not want it. I have set everything to stop it updating and it just keeps updating itself to this useless version, probably going to have to go to pale moon now, a browser which seems to actually work and do what it is told.

Asked by nicrayner 6 iminyaka edlule

Last reply by the-edmeister 6 iminyaka edlule

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Adobe Flash Player and Shockwave crashing has disabled my computer

I have downloaded a second flash player and it is still the same. Firefox has been crashing daily for a few weeks. I noticed that your adblocker plus was updated 6/4. Si… (funda kabanzi)

I have downloaded a second flash player and it is still the same. Firefox has been crashing daily for a few weeks. I noticed that your adblocker plus was updated 6/4. Since then I have almost no use of firefox, because the Adobe flash player 13.0.r0 and Shockwave crash notices are constantly popping up. Could that update have something to do with why the flash players are not working? Below are an example of the crash details. Thanks for the help. I prefer your browser, but this has made it non-functioning.

In trying to fix it, a window came up that asked would I like to change it back to a previous working image, which was Windows XP. Although this computer is Windows 7, I clicked the box yes, and said I wanted it to work like Windows XP. I see in your Operating System below, that it reads Windows Xp, but this computer is actually Windows 7. I can't find that menu to change unclick and change it back, so that it is working as Windows 7.

Problem Event Name: APPCRASH

 Application Name:	FlashPlayerPlugin_13_0_0_214.exe
 Application Version:	13.0.0.214
 Application Timestamp:	5359c61d
 Fault Module Name:	StackHash_27eb
 Fault Module Version:	0.0.0.0
 Fault Module Timestamp:	00000000
 Exception Code:	c0000005
 Exception Offset:	6c2b92cd
 OS Version:	6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
 Locale ID:	1033
 Additional Information 1:	27eb
 Additional Information 2:	27eb358fe674a6f15dafe56d42bb9bf3
 Additional Information 3:	2f06
 Additional Information 4:	2f06c18113e6d7c00e6b91fa1fde84b6

Read our privacy statement online:

 http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=104288&clcid=0x0409

If the online privacy statement is not available, please read our privacy statement offline:

 C:\Windows\system32\en-US\erofflps.txt

Asked by WtrLily 6 iminyaka edlule

Last reply by Moses 6 iminyaka edlule

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Hoe do I revert back to Firfox 28?

Bring me back my old firefox UI. I hate firefox 29. It doesn't help me do things quicker and the those bl**dy curvy tabs! Try that with 20+ tabs open... Please, please re… (funda kabanzi)

Bring me back my old firefox UI. I hate firefox 29. It doesn't help me do things quicker and the those bl**dy curvy tabs! Try that with 20+ tabs open...

Please, please revert this retro step in your next version. There's nothing that I'd call an improvement. And a leaky bandaid in the form of an addon is waste of good intentions.

Asked by fetchall 6 iminyaka edlule

Answered by Grubbyashes 6 iminyaka edlule