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Inserting a picture/pictures into the text of an email.

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I have, very reluctantly, had to stop using Windows Live Mail, because gmail will no longer support it. It was a great email program and it did everything I needed. Thunderbird would seem to be the nearest thing I can find to replace Live Mail - but there seems to be some quite staggering basic functions that are missing from it. Maybe I'm alone in wanting to include a picture or two in my emails..? - not as attachments, but as part of 'the visual letter', within the text? Live Mail must be 20 years old at least - but in Live Mail I could insert an image; drag the corners to resize it; add a box rule if I wanted to; and send it on it's way. In 21stC Thunderbird I can, with many a dialogue box, insert an image... but even when I've worked out how to 'resize it', it doesn't actually reduce the file size of the image sent..! So a 7MB image, when 'resized' to something less than 1MB... still actually gets transmitted as a 7MB image - and takes forever! So my question is. How come an ancient, now almost defunct program like Live Mail, is twenty times more agile and user-friendly than 'up-to-date' Thunderbird? And before anyone mentions 'add-ons' - Live Mail did all of this straight out of the box! No 'add-on' searching or anything else required. But maybe including a picture or two in an email is a fairly revolutionary concept? With thanks for your thoughts.

I have, very reluctantly, had to stop using Windows Live Mail, because gmail will no longer support it. It was a great email program and it did everything I needed. Thunderbird would seem to be the nearest thing I can find to replace Live Mail - but there seems to be some quite staggering basic functions that are missing from it. Maybe I'm alone in wanting to include a picture or two in my emails..? - not as attachments, but as part of 'the visual letter', within the text? Live Mail must be 20 years old at least - but in Live Mail I could insert an image; drag the corners to resize it; add a box rule if I wanted to; and send it on it's way. In 21stC Thunderbird I can, with many a dialogue box, insert an image... but even when I've worked out how to 'resize it', it doesn't actually reduce the file size of the image sent..! So a 7MB image, when 'resized' to something less than 1MB... still actually gets transmitted as a 7MB image - and takes forever! So my question is. How come an ancient, now almost defunct program like Live Mail, is twenty times more agile and user-friendly than 'up-to-date' Thunderbird? And before anyone mentions 'add-ons' - Live Mail did all of this straight out of the box! No 'add-on' searching or anything else required. But maybe including a picture or two in an email is a fairly revolutionary concept? With thanks for your thoughts.

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You mention some "staggering basic functions" that are missing, but your complaint is about photo resizing. I am interested in what the other missing functions are. Thanks.

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Hi - your response doesn't entirely solve the problem I raised, but many thanks for your contribution. And although I didn't come onto the forum to discuss all of the differences between Live Mail and Thunderbird - when I sent a Live Mail email I knew when it had been received and, more importantly, I knew when it had been read. And I still think 'photo resizing' is a basic function any email program should have!

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Well, I cannot solve the issue you raised; people on this forum provide service to help people use Thunderbird; we are not the developers who make design decisions. The issue of knowing when email is received or read is a voluntary response by receiver and is offered by TB and other email clients, and not unique to Windows Live Mail. You seem displeased with Thunderbird, with strong complaints, but provide little detail on its failings. My suggestion to you is to consider documenting what you believe are the shortcomings and post them to the developers at bugzilla dot mozilla dot org. Then everyone wins. Thanks for sharing your concerns.

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Hi - I'm not sure why you write: "You seem displeased with Thunderbird, with strong complaints, but provide little detail on its failings". I thought my 'detail on its failings' was that its method of inserting an image into the text of an email is next to useless and very surprising to find in a 'modern, up-to-date, email client. If you do waste your time 'resizing' your image in the Insert / Image / Dialogue Box, using 'Dimensions' - the image actually sent will still be the original size! A more pointless exercise is difficult to imagine. I'm sorry but that's not my idea of a neat and efficient way of including images within the text of an email. But as I said - maybe I'm the only person in the world who wants to include an image in the text of an email. And I'm not 'displeased' - I'm more surprised and slightly incredulous - and I've downloaded the Beta version to contribute to that forum.

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Problem solved..! I can now choose any photo I want - test pic was 10.4MB - insert it wherever the cursor is positioned - with the image automatically resized - tweak the size if I want to with grab-handles - add any of half a dozen borders - from box rule to drop shadow - and send..! And the sent pic was actually 166KB - the whole mail being sent in seconds! (I sent the test mail to myself and saved the pic to discover the 'new' size, which could have been bigger if I'd wanted to enlarge it). Still amazed that I seem to be the only person in the world who wants to drop pics into their emails without ANY problems or hassle - odd.

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Version 91.10.0 Yes there is the Insert > Image option which has been around for eons. But you have been able to drag and drop an image file into the 'Write' composing window since version 90 https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/new-thunderbird-91#w_new-user-interface-for-adding-attachments

Drag image over Write window and drop into the 'Inline' option. You can resize the visual dimensions by dragging the corners. A double click on image offers immediate access to properties. The above is available.

However, it does not change the actual size of image, just the visual size, so it looks better in an email. Especially if you need it fit in a table cell.

You mention using a beta version, so it's interesting to hear there have been more developments in image options. However, it did not specifically mention the resizing of image size. Not sure what beta you are using. 102 version info. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/new-thunderbird-102

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Thanks - however I'm still slightly amazed that I would appear to be the only person in the universe who wants to drop conveniently sized, decent quality pics into their emails..?! The only way I've found of doing that with Thunderbird - without the giant pain of individually resizing any pics I want to insert in Photoshop first - being to actually compose the email in (the now defunct) LiveMail - including the totally painless insertion of pics - 'select all' - 'copy' - and then paste the copied email into Thunderbird! One giant leap for mankind, etc. I shall try dropping a line to bugzilla.

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dunmoanin said

Problem solved..! I can now choose any photo I want - test pic was 10.4MB - insert it wherever the cursor is positioned - with the image automatically resized - tweak the size if I want to with grab-handles - add any of half a dozen borders - from box rule to drop shadow - and send..! And the sent pic was actually 166KB - the whole mail being sent in seconds! (I sent the test mail to myself and saved the pic to discover the 'new' size, which could have been bigger if I'd wanted to enlarge it). Still amazed that I seem to be the only person in the world who wants to drop pics into their emails without ANY problems or hassle - odd.

Dunmoanin, Make that two people with this issue! I found this a vexing issue. I'm using latest TBird version 103.0.2 64Bit I wasn't able to duplicate. Consider me a newcomer.

  • choose any photo I want: How are you choosing? Using the Insert, getting the file Or Copying the Image onto Clipboard ?
  • Insert at cursor position: Using? Drop Down Insert on File Menu Bar or, the Toolbar Insert Icon, or PASTE from Clipboard?
  • with the image automatically resized: How is this accomplished?
  • tweak the size if I want to with grab-handles: The tiny boxes found around picture border, yes?
  • add any of half a dozen borders - from box rule to drop shadow: Couldn't find how/where.

After trying all this and not succeeding, I just found an Extension that appears to work OK: Shrunked Image Resizer

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