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I cannot believe Mozilla doesn't offer different audio alerts for each email account.

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This is such a basic feature. If you have multiple email accounts of course they are not all equally important. When are they going to wake up?

Does anyone know of an extension that is reliably working for 68.2.2 version for Windows 7? I noticed one isn't ready yet. Only works for version 60.

This is such a basic feature. If you have multiple email accounts of course they are not all equally important. When are they going to wake up? Does anyone know of an extension that is reliably working for 68.2.2 version for Windows 7? I noticed one isn't ready yet. Only works for version 60.
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When new mail arrives: Offering an alert which is visible and can include a sound of your choosing is offered and it is the basic level which effects all mail accounts.

Any other options are not basic, they start to get into the realms of personal preferences. Some people like all kinds of whistles bells and flutes and this may seem normal to those people, but they are not basic.

Addons are created by people in their own time and they rely on donations to maintain them. You would be amazed at how many people use addons but never contribute towards them. It takes a lot of time and knowledge to completely rewrite code for an addon. Some people have stopped for various reasons. Lack of time. Lack of support from users. Lack of knowledge and no enthusiasm to put in the work level. Etc etc.

I'm not sure the extent that Mailbox Alert is working in most recent versions:

When new mail arrives: Offering an alert which is visible and can include a sound of your choosing is offered and it is the basic level which effects all mail accounts. Any other options are not basic, they start to get into the realms of personal preferences. Some people like all kinds of whistles bells and flutes and this may seem normal to those people, but they are not basic. Addons are created by people in their own time and they rely on donations to maintain them. You would be amazed at how many people use addons but never contribute towards them. It takes a lot of time and knowledge to completely rewrite code for an addon. Some people have stopped for various reasons. Lack of time. Lack of support from users. Lack of knowledge and no enthusiasm to put in the work level. Etc etc. I'm not sure the extent that Mailbox Alert is working in most recent versions: * https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/mailbox-alert/ * http://tjeb.nl/Projects/Mailbox_Alert/
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Isicaphuno

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> Some people like all kinds of whistles bells and flutes and this may seem normal to those people, but they are not basic.

You can choose your own particular sound with Thunderbird as well.

I think the solution to this is to have your email settings so that important stuff comes in all the time with an alert and unimportant stuff is activated manually. Probably the best way anyway as email can be so distracting for most people and we can waste so much time on trivial messages. I should have done this long ago. Hey, maybe Mozilla had this idea all along and it WHOOOSHED right past me.

Now all I need to figure out is why the audio alerts aren't working at all for me. Sound has been checked but when I send get messages in there sure ain't no audio alerts. I used Volume Mixer to see if it was there but it wasn't. I get audio alerts with other programs.

> Some people like all kinds of whistles bells and flutes and this may seem normal to those people, but they are not basic. You can choose your own particular sound with Thunderbird as well. I think the solution to this is to have your email settings so that important stuff comes in all the time with an alert and unimportant stuff is activated manually. Probably the best way anyway as email can be so distracting for most people and we can waste so much time on trivial messages. I should have done this long ago. Hey, maybe Mozilla had this idea all along and it WHOOOSHED right past me. Now all I need to figure out is why the audio alerts aren't working at all for me. Sound has been checked but when I send get messages in there sure ain't no audio alerts. I used Volume Mixer to see if it was there but it wasn't. I get audio alerts with other programs.
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> http://tjeb.nl/Projects/Mailbox_Alert

Just look at this page. All the updates in the Changelog are listed with no date. Then they refer to the Thunderbird version as .69 when its probably 69.

How dumb is that? What is wrong with techies? Its like they are devoid of common sense logic. You see this everywhere in tech. Maybe to be great at tech something has to give and that something is logic. Its utterly bewildering. A company has to constantly check their work to make sure they aren't doing something utterly moronic. They need to be partnered with a normal person who thinks in a clear, pragmatic fashion, otherwise who knows what ludicrous things they'll do? (No offence to you brilliant techies out there reading this that are about to answer my question! lol )

> http://tjeb.nl/Projects/Mailbox_Alert Just look at this page. All the updates in the Changelog are listed with no date. Then they refer to the Thunderbird version as .69 when its probably 69. How dumb is that? What is wrong with techies? Its like they are devoid of common sense logic. You see this everywhere in tech. Maybe to be great at tech something has to give and that something is logic. Its utterly bewildering. A company has to constantly check their work to make sure they aren't doing something utterly moronic. They need to be partnered with a normal person who thinks in a clear, pragmatic fashion, otherwise who knows what ludicrous things they'll do? (No offence to you brilliant techies out there reading this that are about to answer my question! lol )

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Perhaps you could post that in Dutch or German. The web site is registered in the Netherlands. That is what the .nl is the address means, The native language of the person you are so incensed about is unlikely to be English if they are registering their web site in the Netherlands.

It is standard practice to list changes in the version number of the software they apply to. That is what is occurring here.

Perhaps it is you that needs to understand the technical language and standards used instead of expecting everyone to communicate the same way you do, and with the same level of imprecision. The change log is exceedingly precise in specifying what is in what version. It matters not if the change happened yesterday or five years ago. What is important is if it is in the version you have. To expect the change log to be date ordered is unreasonable.

My two personal language hates are Americans and their use of 2 times. It is twice, and their apparent ignorance of the existence of the word fortnight. 2 weeks is a fortnight. But I live in a global community and have learned to accept most of the vagarities of non native English speakers, I even mostly modify my language to misspell words because the Language of Thunderbird is US English. So please modify your opinions to include the language spoken by the person involved and the standards of the industry you are involved with.

Perhaps you could post that in Dutch or German. The web site is registered in the Netherlands. That is what the .nl is the address means, The native language of the person you are so incensed about is unlikely to be English if they are registering their web site in the Netherlands. It is standard practice to list changes in the version number of the software they apply to. That is what is occurring here. Perhaps it is you that needs to understand the technical language and standards used instead of expecting everyone to communicate the same way you do, and with the same level of imprecision. The change log is exceedingly precise in specifying what is in what version. It matters not if the change happened yesterday or five years ago. What is important is if it is in the version you have. To expect the change log to be date ordered is unreasonable. My two personal language hates are Americans and their use of 2 times. It is twice, and their apparent ignorance of the existence of the word fortnight. 2 weeks is a fortnight. But I live in a global community and have learned to accept most of the vagarities of non native English speakers, I even mostly modify my language to misspell words because the Language of Thunderbird is US English. So please modify your opinions to include the language spoken by the person involved and the standards of the industry you are involved with.
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Sorry, English is my sole language.

> The native language of the person you are so incensed about is unlikely to be English if they are registering their web site in the Netherlands.

Their command of English is usually more than enough to convey simple concepts like this. I did message one of the designers and am waiting to hear back.

> It is standard practice to list changes in the version number of the software they apply to.

Except they refer to version 68 as .68. Who does that? For a whole page you move the decimal place over 2 increments? And if an update is done a long time ago a DATE informs the reader immediately without having to hunt down the version number and correlate that to a date. Make sense? Its not as if he's being charged by the letter.

> It matters not if the change happened yesterday or five years ago. What is important is if it is in the version you have.

Yes I see your point. It may take the author a while to get around to doing it so the date is of less importance. Still it would be a nice gesture and useful at times. Who writes a list of things they have done without dating it? Its just conventional and it makes sense to most of us.

> To expect the change log to be date ordered is unreasonable.

Well it really wouldn't be a Herculean effort to add a date. Of course if they are behind and add a date people may assume its good up to the FF revision up to that point when it may not be. Perhaps that's why they avoid using it. Not having a date gives them freedom in some ways.

> My two personal language hates are Americans and their use of 2 times. It is twice,

I think you mean people that use "2 times" instead of twice, not Americans. Canadians do the same. But in fairness, the words "2 times" have a slightly different intonation than twice. Twice is more brief, sounding lighter to the reader, something you mention rather quickly, moving on to the next topic. Two/2 times is a little more emphatic and draws the reader to those words as they have a little more emphasis in the writing. But the differences are minor to be sure. A good writer would never use one in place of another though. Say you were chastising someone and said, "Two times you did that! How could you not have seen the difference? How could you not have noticed that!?" Now read the same words replacing "Two times" with Twice. It doesn't have the same impact at all. If it was a play the speaker would also spend much more time eliciting "Two times", perhaps with visceral venom.....lol.....which would be hard to get that with a rather more pithy "Twice".....:) Now if it was used in humour the speaker may use twice as it would contrast the intensity of the feeling of the speaker with the rather weaker sounding "twice".

What gets me is why English speaking countries can't agree on spelling, once and for all. Canada is very guilty in this area spelling a number of words differently, as if to spite Americans or the world. As English came from Britain I would think that should be used as a reference. Maybe the UN could finally do something useful and standardize languages!

Sorry, English is my sole language. > The native language of the person you are so incensed about is unlikely to be English if they are registering their web site in the Netherlands. Their command of English is usually more than enough to convey simple concepts like this. I did message one of the designers and am waiting to hear back. > It is standard practice to list changes in the version number of the software they apply to. Except they refer to version 68 as .68. Who does that? For a whole page you move the decimal place over 2 increments? And if an update is done a long time ago a DATE informs the reader immediately without having to hunt down the version number and correlate that to a date. Make sense? Its not as if he's being charged by the letter. > It matters not if the change happened yesterday or five years ago. What is important is if it is in the version you have. Yes I see your point. It may take the author a while to get around to doing it so the date is of less importance. Still it would be a nice gesture and useful at times. Who writes a list of things they have done without dating it? Its just conventional and it makes sense to most of us. > To expect the change log to be date ordered is unreasonable. Well it really wouldn't be a Herculean effort to add a date. Of course if they are behind and add a date people may assume its good up to the FF revision up to that point when it may not be. Perhaps that's why they avoid using it. Not having a date gives them freedom in some ways. > My two personal language hates are Americans and their use of 2 times. It is twice, I think you mean people that use "2 times" instead of twice, not Americans. Canadians do the same. But in fairness, the words "2 times" have a slightly different intonation than twice. Twice is more brief, sounding lighter to the reader, something you mention rather quickly, moving on to the next topic. Two/2 times is a little more emphatic and draws the reader to those words as they have a little more emphasis in the writing. But the differences are minor to be sure. A good writer would never use one in place of another though. Say you were chastising someone and said, "Two times you did that! How could you not have seen the difference? How could you not have noticed that!?" Now read the same words replacing "Two times" with Twice. It doesn't have the same impact at all. If it was a play the speaker would also spend much more time eliciting "Two times", perhaps with visceral venom.....lol.....which would be hard to get that with a rather more pithy "Twice".....:) Now if it was used in humour the speaker may use twice as it would contrast the intensity of the feeling of the speaker with the rather weaker sounding "twice". What gets me is why English speaking countries can't agree on spelling, once and for all. Canada is very guilty in this area spelling a number of words differently, as if to spite Americans or the world. As English came from Britain I would think that should be used as a reference. Maybe the UN could finally do something useful and standardize languages!
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As for language modifications I would do that but unfortunately I don't know much of the vernacular that British people use. But things like "boot" for the trunk of a car and "kit" for equipment...that's easy. And yes, its a nice signal of respect. I'm Canadian and most of the language is pretty identical to the US except for black slang which influences the language after a while. But as that changes quite often we don't adopt it much because once we have its changed and we sound out of date.

As for language modifications I would do that but unfortunately I don't know much of the vernacular that British people use. But things like "boot" for the trunk of a car and "kit" for equipment...that's easy. And yes, its a nice signal of respect. I'm Canadian and most of the language is pretty identical to the US except for black slang which influences the language after a while. But as that changes quite often we don't adopt it much because once we have its changed and we sound out of date.
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