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Email and address book saved, not profile. How do I import?

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Computer was failing, and I copied the Mail folder to another computer. Now I've installed Thunderbird on the other computer but can't figure out how to import the messages and address book.

Computer was failing, and I copied the Mail folder to another computer. Now I've installed Thunderbird on the other computer but can't figure out how to import the messages and address book.

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christ1
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2171 izisombululo 15897 izimpendulo
Kuphostiwe

Copy over the entire profile. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Move_to_a_new_PC

Copy over the entire profile. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Move_to_a_new_PC

Umnikazi wombuzo

I found out about copying the profile AFTER the computer failed. No profile saved anywhere - yet I have all the message folders. Is there a way to get them to import to the new profile Thunderbird created when I installed it on the other computer? I can see the contents of messages using wordpad, but that is a tedious method to search years of saved messages!

I found out about copying the profile AFTER the computer failed. No profile saved anywhere - yet I have all the message folders. Is there a way to get them to import to the new profile Thunderbird created when I installed it on the other computer? I can see the contents of messages using wordpad, but that is a tedious method to search years of saved messages!
christ1
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2171 izisombululo 15897 izimpendulo
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You can install this add-on. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/importexporttools/

Umnikazi wombuzo

I did that, but it doesn't seem to like any of the folders I try to import. No matter what I select it says it can't find anything to import. I can see the messages when I use explorer and open with notepad but they don't show when I'm using the import/export add-on. I'll keep trying but so far have experienced nothing but frustration.

I did that, but it doesn't seem to like any of the folders I try to import. No matter what I select it says it can't find anything to import. I can see the messages when I use explorer and open with notepad but they don't show when I'm using the import/export add-on. I'll keep trying but so far have experienced nothing but frustration.
Matt
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3277 izisombululo 22612 izimpendulo
Kuphostiwe

did you perchance save a whole collection of files with the extension wdseml.

did you perchance save a whole collection of files with the extension wdseml.

Umnikazi wombuzo

I don't find that wdseml anywhere. However, I've found that if I copy the message file and msf file to the "Local Folders" under the newly created profile, it appears to work. Tedious, as the subfolders have to be copied individually.

Sure seems to me that when I "exported" the email and address book before the computer failed that I had prevented this problem. Now I just need to find the address book information in the data I've managed to save.

I don't find that wdseml anywhere. However, I've found that if I copy the message file and msf file to the "Local Folders" under the newly created profile, it appears to work. Tedious, as the subfolders have to be copied individually. Sure seems to me that when I "exported" the email and address book before the computer failed that I had prevented this problem. Now I just need to find the address book information in the data I've managed to save.
christ1
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2171 izisombululo 15897 izimpendulo
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Now I just need to find the address book information in the data I've managed to save.

See http://kb.mozillazine.org/Moving_address_books_between_profiles

<blockquote> Now I just need to find the address book information in the data I've managed to save. </blockquote> See http://kb.mozillazine.org/Moving_address_books_between_profiles

Umnikazi wombuzo

Each of the steps in that article presume the previous profile is available. That is not the case - I thought when I did the "export" in Thunderbird I was covered. Turns out that doesn't do much of anything!

I don't have a profile, and the only address book file I can find in our backup has zero bytes, so I don't think it will be of any help. Guess it is time to start the painful and time consuming process of rebuilding the address book.

Thanks for the suggestions, I appreciate them.

Each of the steps in that article presume the previous profile is available. That is not the case - I thought when I did the "export" in Thunderbird I was covered. Turns out that doesn't do much of anything! I don't have a profile, and the only address book file I can find in our backup has zero bytes, so I don't think it will be of any help. Guess it is time to start the painful and time consuming process of rebuilding the address book. Thanks for the suggestions, I appreciate them.
Matt
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3277 izisombululo 22612 izimpendulo
Kuphostiwe

Address book files have an MAB extension.

I am interested on how you exported this information as Thnderbierd has no export function. The address book does, but it exports DLIF and CSV files not MAB files. SO what you did to export is I think very relevant. As for importing nested folders. use the import export tools add-on... it has excellent recursive import of mbox files (Which is what you are doing). Not the MSF files are not needed at all. They are only an index, used to populate the lists in Thunderbird instead of the much slower reading of the entire mail file each time that is done.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/importexporttools/

Address book files have an MAB extension. I am interested on how you exported this information as Thnderbierd has no export function. The address book does, but it exports DLIF and CSV files not MAB files. SO what you did to export is I think very relevant. As for importing nested folders. use the import export tools add-on... it has excellent recursive import of mbox files (Which is what you are doing). Not the MSF files are not needed at all. They are only an index, used to populate the lists in Thunderbird instead of the much slower reading of the entire mail file each time that is done. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/importexporttools/

Umnikazi wombuzo

The import/export add-on gave me the impression I was exporting message files and address book. In addition (thankfully) I copied the "Mail" folder from Thunderbird to another computer. Presuming the export function would be adequate, I failed to look for the files created. Evidently that function is much like the Wizard of Oz ("Don't look behind the curtain.")

I've got the local folders all in order - finally - after a lot of labor and breath-holding as I was treading in an area I didn't completely comprehend. I also found the Inbox and Sent information, so I think we're up to date with messages. The only thing missing now is the Address Book, and my searches through all the information copied from the failed computer has not given me any hope of resurrecting that. We'll have to recreate it.

I suffered a similar issue with a different email program a year ago when a hard drive on another computer failed suddenly. Unable to get anything from the drive, I relied on backups, which proved to be woefully inadequate. Seems to me that email programs should be pretty up front about saving the important information to a different location with only a couple of buttons to push. Instead, it appears there are numerous hoops through which one must leap, and then the results are less than outstanding.

Oh well, it still beats post cards and the old yellow tablet!

The import/export add-on gave me the impression I was exporting message files and address book. In addition (thankfully) I copied the "Mail" folder from Thunderbird to another computer. Presuming the export function would be adequate, I failed to look for the files created. Evidently that function is much like the Wizard of Oz ("Don't look behind the curtain.") I've got the local folders all in order - finally - after a lot of labor and breath-holding as I was treading in an area I didn't completely comprehend. I also found the Inbox and Sent information, so I think we're up to date with messages. The only thing missing now is the Address Book, and my searches through all the information copied from the failed computer has not given me any hope of resurrecting that. We'll have to recreate it. I suffered a similar issue with a different email program a year ago when a hard drive on another computer failed suddenly. Unable to get anything from the drive, I relied on backups, which proved to be woefully inadequate. Seems to me that email programs should be pretty up front about saving the important information to a different location with only a couple of buttons to push. Instead, it appears there are numerous hoops through which one must leap, and then the results are less than outstanding. Oh well, it still beats post cards and the old yellow tablet!
Matt
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3277 izisombululo 22612 izimpendulo
Kuphostiwe

As far as addresses are concerned, they are problematical at best because their is no standard format for interchange. Having said that it is possible to sync them with various online providers. Google and Outlook.com being the two most obvious.

Tzpush for hormail/outlook. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/thunderbird/addon/tzpush/

gcontact sync for google https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/gcontactsync/

This means disk failure looses nothing.

While old farts like me like to have local mail stores, just about everyone is off on the IMAP synchronized accounts way of doing things so they have their mail on the phone and tables as well as the desktop. With IMAP, you just set up the account again and wait for the download.

It is not an excuse, but I think it goes a way to explaining why backup is not important to the developers of mail programs in general.

I see you exported using import export tools... but you did not use the profile backup. which would have provided you a full backup to recover from by simply restoring it using the same import export tools.

As far as addresses are concerned, they are problematical at best because their is no standard format for interchange. Having said that it is possible to sync them with various online providers. Google and Outlook.com being the two most obvious. Tzpush for hormail/outlook. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/thunderbird/addon/tzpush/ gcontact sync for google https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/gcontactsync/ This means disk failure looses nothing. While old farts like me like to have local mail stores, just about everyone is off on the IMAP synchronized accounts way of doing things so they have their mail on the phone and tables as well as the desktop. With IMAP, you just set up the account again and wait for the download. It is not an excuse, but I think it goes a way to explaining why backup is not important to the developers of mail programs in general. I see you exported using import export tools... but you did not use the profile backup. which would have provided you a full backup to recover from by simply restoring it using the same import export tools.

Umnikazi wombuzo

I hear you - I'm confident I have a few years on you and somehow mistrust the idea of having everything I know (or thought I knew) floating around in some ephemeral "cloud" that is actually in some warehouse somewhere! I don't have any of the i - - - - devices, and have not felt the need to connect everything in this manner. However, guess I'm going to have to update my thinking one of these days. I see now they're coming out with a refrigerator with a 21" TV on the door to allow you to order food when you discover that you need it!

Profile didn't mean anything to me other than name and description until I encountered this issue. Now I have an entirely different understanding of it as a computer term.

Once again, thanks for the help. I am most appreciative of your efforts.

I hear you - I'm confident I have a few years on you and somehow mistrust the idea of having everything I know (or thought I knew) floating around in some ephemeral "cloud" that is actually in some warehouse somewhere! I don't have any of the i - - - - devices, and have not felt the need to connect everything in this manner. However, guess I'm going to have to update my thinking one of these days. I see now they're coming out with a refrigerator with a 21" TV on the door to allow you to order food when you discover that you need it! Profile didn't mean anything to me other than name and description until I encountered this issue. Now I have an entirely different understanding of it as a computer term. Once again, thanks for the help. I am most appreciative of your efforts.
Zenos 2265 izisombululo 12258 izimpendulo
Kuphostiwe

There is a separate addon, from the same author, that can help with address book files.

MoreFunctionsForAddressBook: https://nic-nac-project.org/~kaosmos/morecols-en.html

There is a separate addon, from the same author, that can help with address book files. MoreFunctionsForAddressBook: https://nic-nac-project.org/~kaosmos/morecols-en.html