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Firefox Sync: Is it safe?

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Hi all, I just noticed that there was an update to Firefox’s sync service and it seems that my old sync details no longer work so I need to move to the new system. Since I do so much of my work and I keep so much highly personal information in Firefox, I just wanted to know how I can check if this new Firefox sync service is safe. Is my personal information safe? Can my personal information be shared with others? Can the Mozilla people access my personal information? I didn’t want to use Firefox Sync until I was 100% certain that it was safe and nobody could access my personal information such as the Mozilla people or anyone else.

Hi all, I just noticed that there was an update to Firefox’s sync service and it seems that my old sync details no longer work so I need to move to the new system. Since I do so much of my work and I keep so much highly personal information in Firefox, I just wanted to know how I can check if this new Firefox sync service is safe. Is my personal information safe? Can my personal information be shared with others? Can the Mozilla people access my personal information? I didn’t want to use Firefox Sync until I was 100% certain that it was safe and nobody could access my personal information such as the Mozilla people or anyone else.

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Its honestly up to you, whatever meets your needs. Firefox Sync is nice because it's built in, free, secure and easy. Lastpass may have other features that meet your needs better though, it's all something your personal experience is the only thing that can tell.

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jayelbe 50 izisombululo 293 izimpendulo
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Hi Newbie333,

Mozilla are pretty hot on protecting your privacy. However, the old version of Sync used to fully encrypt your data before uploading it to Mozilla's servers - the new version doesn't do this.

If you still have a device that's connected to your old Sync account, it's possible to keep using the old Sync even with the latest versions of Firefox thanks to a couple of (fairly straightforward) workarounds.

Do you still have a device that is connected to your old Firefox Sync account? If so, I'll happily give you some instructions.

Best,

Jayelbe

Hi Newbie333, Mozilla are pretty hot on protecting your privacy. However, the old version of Sync used to fully encrypt your data before uploading it to Mozilla's servers - the new version doesn't do this. If you still have a device that's connected to your old Sync account, it's possible to keep using the old Sync even with the latest versions of Firefox thanks to a couple of (fairly straightforward) workarounds. Do you still have a device that is connected to your old Firefox Sync account? If so, I'll happily give you some instructions. Best, Jayelbe
cor-el
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The new Sync version used in current Firefox releases is completely different than the version that was previously used. You enter the name and password of the Firefox account on each computer to connect to the Sync account. With the new Sync version used in current Firefox releases you enter the name and password of the Firefox account on each computer to connect to the Sync account. You can no longer pair a new device by entering a pairing key on a connected device.

The currently used new Sync version still uses a Sync key to encrypt data locally before uploading, but this Sync key is generated internally from the password of your Firefox account, so you no longer need to worry about it. This also means that the Sync key is changed when you change (reset) the password of the Firefox account and you lose all data stored on the Sync server when doing that. You can delete old Sync data and the old account by going to this link:

See also:

The new Sync version used in current Firefox releases is completely different than the version that was previously used. You enter the name and password of the Firefox account on each computer to connect to the Sync account. With the new Sync version used in current Firefox releases you enter the name and password of the Firefox account on each computer to connect to the Sync account. You can no longer pair a new device by entering a pairing key on a connected device. The currently used new Sync version still uses a Sync key to encrypt data locally before uploading, but this Sync key is generated internally from the password of your Firefox account, so you no longer need to worry about it. This also means that the Sync key is changed when you change (reset) the password of the Firefox account and you lose all data stored on the Sync server when doing that. You can delete old Sync data and the old account by going to this link: * https://account.services.mozilla.com/ See also: * https://wiki.mozilla.org/Identity/Firefox-Accounts
FredMcD
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Take a look at this;

Mozilla Firefox, Portable Edition {web link} Mozilla Firefox®, Portable Edition is the popular Mozilla Firefox web browser bundled with a PortableApps.com Launcher as a portable app, so you can take your bookmarks, extensions and saved passwords with you.

Take a look at this; '''[http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable Mozilla Firefox, Portable Edition]''' {web link} Mozilla Firefox®, Portable Edition is the popular Mozilla Firefox web browser bundled with a PortableApps.com Launcher as a portable app, so you can take your bookmarks, extensions and saved passwords with you.

Umnikazi wombuzo

Alright, thanks!

So the older Firefox Sync is more 'trustworthy and secure' than the current Firefox Sync?

How do I use the older Firefox Sync? I need to add another device to my Firefox Sync.

Thanks for any help!!!

Alright, thanks! So the older Firefox Sync is more 'trustworthy and secure' than the current Firefox Sync? How do I use the older Firefox Sync? I need to add another device to my Firefox Sync. Thanks for any help!!!

Umnikazi wombuzo

Thanks, but I'm not interested in Firefox Portable because I use Windows and a Mac.

Thanks, but I'm not interested in Firefox Portable because I use Windows and a Mac.

Umnikazi wombuzo

I just tried logging into my old original Firefox Sync account, but it says 'Unknown account' when I try to login and when I ask for a password reset it just says "Unknown account."

It looks like I may NEED to use the new Firefox Sync. Or is there a way I can access my original Firefox Sync Account?

Thanks for any help!

EDIT:

I just checked and I still have the 26 Digit Firefox Sync 'Key'. Can I use this somehow to use my old Firefox Sync account?

I just tried logging into my old original Firefox Sync account, but it says 'Unknown account' when I try to login and when I ask for a password reset it just says "Unknown account." It looks like I may NEED to use the new Firefox Sync. Or is there a way I can access my original Firefox Sync Account? Thanks for any help! EDIT: I just checked and I still have the 26 Digit Firefox Sync 'Key'. Can I use this somehow to use my old Firefox Sync account?

Okulungisiwe ngu newbie333

the-edmeister
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If the Sync service comes up with "Unknown account" the old Recovery Key won't do you any good; it means Mozilla Sync doesn't even know that you once had the old Sync account.

As far as adding a device to the old Sync service goes - no, that hasn't been for 6 months now. The new Sync is 5 Firefox versions old already [29 thru 33] and Mozilla has only been supporting the old Sync this long due to the ESR versions. And as of Firefox 31 ESR the old Sync isn't used by any current version, and once Firefox 34 and ESR 31.3 are released on Nov 25 I wouldn't be surprised if the old Sync servers are shut down withing a week or two.

If the Sync service comes up with "Unknown account" the old Recovery Key won't do you any good; it means Mozilla Sync doesn't even know that you once had the old Sync account. As far as adding a device to the old Sync service goes - '''no''', that hasn't been for 6 months now. The new Sync is 5 Firefox versions old already ''[29 thru 33]'' and Mozilla has only been supporting the old Sync this long due to the ESR versions. And as of Firefox 31 ESR the old Sync isn't used by any current version, and once Firefox 34 and ESR 31.3 are released on Nov 25 I wouldn't be surprised if the old Sync servers are shut down withing a week or two.

Umnikazi wombuzo

I see. Thanks for your reply.

Is there any possibility for me to somehow use the old Firefox Sync Service?

I'm just worried that the new Firefox Sync isn't trustworthy and that Mozilla may access my personal information or share my personal information.

I see. Thanks for your reply. Is there any possibility for me to somehow use the old Firefox Sync Service? I'm just worried that the new Firefox Sync isn't trustworthy and that Mozilla may access my personal information or share my personal information.
Tyler Downer
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We can't access your personal information even in the new sync, https://blog.mozilla.org/services/2014/04/30/firefox-syncs-new-security-model/ https://blog.mozilla.org/services/2014/02/07/a-better-firefox-sync/
the-edmeister
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Quite honestly, the new Sync is actually more secure that the older version - because it doesn't use the Sync Key / Recovery Key as the older version used. The new version has a hidden implementation of the "security key" instead; the user doesn't ever see it or have to write it down anywhere.

Quite honestly, the new Sync is actually more secure that the older version - because it doesn't use the Sync Key / Recovery Key as the older version used. The new version has a hidden implementation of the "security key" instead; the user doesn't ever see it or have to write it down anywhere.

Umnikazi wombuzo

Thanks, I'm reading those URL links now.

I just found this URL and I'm about to read it. Supposedly has really important information: https://github.com/mozilla/fxa-auth-server/wiki/onepw-protocol

Is it accurate?

Thanks, I'm reading those URL links now. I just found this URL and I'm about to read it. Supposedly has really important information: https://github.com/mozilla/fxa-auth-server/wiki/onepw-protocol Is it accurate?

Umnikazi wombuzo

Thanks!

So it's not possible for Mozilla or other companies to access my personal information? Is the only way for others to access my personal information by figuring out my username and password?

Thanks! So it's not possible for Mozilla or other companies to access my personal information? Is the only way for others to access my personal information by figuring out my username and password?
cor-el
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Kuphostiwe

The currently used new Sync version still uses a Sync key to encrypt data locally before uploading, but this Sync key is generated internally from the password of your Firefox account, so you no longer need to worry about it. This also means that the Sync key is changed when you change (reset) the password of the Firefox account and you lose all data stored on the Sync server when doing that.

See "Why does Firefox Accounts require me to choose a password?":

The currently used new Sync version still uses a Sync key to encrypt data locally before uploading, but this Sync key is generated internally from the password of your Firefox account, so you no longer need to worry about it. This also means that the Sync key is changed when you change (reset) the password of the Firefox account and you lose all data stored on the Sync server when doing that. See "Why does Firefox Accounts require me to choose a password?": * https://wiki.mozilla.org/Identity/Firefox-Accounts

Umnikazi wombuzo

Thanks! Does anyone know if this is accurate information about Mozilla's Sync? https://github.com/mozilla/fxa-auth-server/wiki/onepw-protocol

Thanks! Does anyone know if this is accurate information about Mozilla's Sync? https://github.com/mozilla/fxa-auth-server/wiki/onepw-protocol

Umnikazi wombuzo

I'm trying to decide if I should use Firefox Sync or not.

Is there any other way for me to share my bookmarks on a Mac and a Windows8 PC?

Why isn't Firefox available on iPhones and iPads by the way? I was thinking of buying an iPad...

I'm trying to decide if I should use Firefox Sync or not. Is there any other way for me to share my bookmarks on a Mac and a Windows8 PC? Why isn't Firefox available on iPhones and iPads by the way? I was thinking of buying an iPad...
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1. Yes, this information is correct - https://github.com/mozilla/fxa-auth-server/wiki/onepw-protocol

2. See this for a comparison of browser synchronizes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_browser_synchronizers

3. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Platforms#Other_Platforms iPhone / iPad / iPod

  "We have no plans to release the full Firefox browser for iOS. The iOS SDK agreement requires apps to use Apple's own JavaScript engine (or none at all, like Opera Mini which downloads pre-rendered pages from Opera's servers and cannot run JavaScript code in the client). Because of this, we have no supported way to distribute Firefox's rendering and JavaScript engine to iPhone and iPad users."
1. Yes, this information is correct - https://github.com/mozilla/fxa-auth-server/wiki/onepw-protocol 2. See this for a comparison of browser synchronizes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_browser_synchronizers 3. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Platforms#Other_Platforms iPhone / iPad / iPod "We have no plans to release the full Firefox browser for iOS. The iOS SDK agreement requires apps to use Apple's own JavaScript engine (or none at all, like Opera Mini which downloads pre-rendered pages from Opera's servers and cannot run JavaScript code in the client). Because of this, we have no supported way to distribute Firefox's rendering and JavaScript engine to iPhone and iPad users."

Umnikazi wombuzo

I'm leaning towards using Firefox Sync. Does anyone have any reason I ought to think about before I go ahead and use Firefox Sync? I'm already using LastPass to share my usernames and password login information for sites.

Thanks!

I'm leaning towards using Firefox Sync. Does anyone have any reason I ought to think about before I go ahead and use Firefox Sync? I'm already using LastPass to share my usernames and password login information for sites. Thanks!

Okulungisiwe ngu newbie333

Umnikazi wombuzo

Could someone please help me?

Could someone please help me?
Tyler Downer
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Isisombululo Esikhethiwe

Its honestly up to you, whatever meets your needs. Firefox Sync is nice because it's built in, free, secure and easy. Lastpass may have other features that meet your needs better though, it's all something your personal experience is the only thing that can tell.

Its honestly up to you, whatever meets your needs. Firefox Sync is nice because it's built in, free, secure and easy. Lastpass may have other features that meet your needs better though, it's all something your personal experience is the only thing that can tell.

Umnikazi wombuzo

Thank you, sir!

I'm still thinking if I should use the new Firefox Sync. I hope I can make the decision soon.

If anyone else has any points I ought to think about before I use Firefox Sync I'd be really grateful!!!

Thank you, sir! I'm still thinking if I should use the new Firefox Sync. I hope I can make the decision soon. If anyone else has any points I ought to think about before I use Firefox Sync I'd be really grateful!!!