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Stop the AI

Please remove and do not add any AI/ML features to Firefox, it's the only mainstream browser of this kind left, i was planning on buying some merch but I don't think this… (閱讀更多)

Please remove and do not add any AI/ML features to Firefox, it's the only mainstream browser of this kind left, i was planning on buying some merch but I don't think this company deserves my money if it tries to make cash off me in an insidious way either way

Krystina 於 2 個月前 詢問

Jordi Alba 最近回覆於 3 天前

AI usage and how I feel about it

I hopped onto firefox the same way many others did- looking for a browser that didn't have the ties to privacy issues or baggage of bloatware, and especially since all of… (閱讀更多)

I hopped onto firefox the same way many others did- looking for a browser that didn't have the ties to privacy issues or baggage of bloatware, and especially since all of the other browsers are changing things to focus on AI. And now that firefox is joining that chain I wonder why I even bother trying to get attached.

Like, on the one hand I can somewhat see where the CEO is coming from, everyone's getting a cool new toy and you want in on that, that's understandable. But with something as half-baked, destructive, and actively contentious as AI, I wonder the true value of playing with things like that.

In fact, have you SEEN what's going on with AI? Microsoft's shoved Copilot into every aspect of windows 11, their PCs, their browser, their marketing, and what did they get? Regret! They regretted that decision as consumers aren't happy with that decision!

Even OpenAI, the granddaddy of all LLM stuff around, they're not even going to be profitable until 2030. Yes, that's 4 years away. No, I sincerely HOPE they don't last that long.

Why Mozilla is picking this decision? FOMO, I presume, but like. It doesn't have to be this way, it's allowed to be a small bastion where people can actually pick what I want out of it. I dislike the fact Perplexity got added to my search functions, but I'm happy that I could turn it off.

For the love of god Montresor, don't lock us in here.

Jared F. 於 2 個月前 詢問

Paul 最近回覆於 2 個月前

Making Firefox an "AI browser" is a terrible decision

Having heard the news that Firefox's latest CEO wants to turn it into yet another AI-slop browser, I came to this forum to give feedback as an avid Firefox user over the … (閱讀更多)

Having heard the news that Firefox's latest CEO wants to turn it into yet another AI-slop browser, I came to this forum to give feedback as an avid Firefox user over the last 4-5 years. I can see I'm not alone either; there are tons of other users who seem to feel the same way I do.

This is a very, VERY bad decision. So far, every "AI update" that has already hit Firefox has done nothing but make the browser worse and more inefficient. A few months ago, Mozilla was getting hit by complaints from desktop users about memory usage skyrocketing due to the implementation of an AI chatbot into Firefox. Now they've added AI search engines among other things. And surprise, surprise--no one seems to actually want to use these features. Why should we, if all it does is make computers run slower, overheat, and doesn't actually answer any useful questions or contribute anything meaningful?

I'm baffled at Mr. Enzor-DeMeo saying he wants to go all-in on making Firefox an "AI browser" with his whole chest in the SAME week that Microsoft has had to lower their growth targets for AI-related sales, some of them up to 50%, because NO ONE seems to actually be buying AI products. You know, on account of (you guessed it) not finding them very useful.

Other people have already mentioned the myriad of other problems with AI too, so I won't touch on those too much, other than to agree that AI is a plagiarism machine that's doing serious environmental damage. What I WILL say is that I personally have been using Firefox all this time specifically because it's avoided the AI craze as much as other browsers, or at the very least, avoided making it "opt-out" instead of "opt-in" to the same degree. But if this changes in the near future and Firefox does become yet another inefficient AI slopfest of a browser, I may seriously rethink my loyalty to Firefox and switch back to Chrome instead. After all, there would be functionally no difference between the two browsers anyway!

Please rethink this decision and consider actually listening to user feedback going forward. If Mozilla actually wants to retain their userbase, I'm sure I'm not the only person thinking about dropping Firefox for Chrome in the future.

oyashirosamanotsukai 於 2 個月前 詢問

Paul 最近回覆於 2 個月前

Can we stop the incoming ai sloppening?

I choose Firefox because of its security and privacy measures. This will be completely undercut by implementing pointless ai features. Mozilla's choice of new CEO is incr… (閱讀更多)

I choose Firefox because of its security and privacy measures. This will be completely undercut by implementing pointless ai features. Mozilla's choice of new CEO is incredibly questionable, especially as the ai bubble draws closer and closer to bursting.

Zay 於 2 個月前 詢問

Paul 最近回覆於 2 個月前

Ai browser integration

To put it plainly, MANY MANY of your users Only use firefox because it hasn't actively destroyed itself with ai-integration. extreme issues with privacy and performance a… (閱讀更多)

To put it plainly, MANY MANY of your users Only use firefox because it hasn't actively destroyed itself with ai-integration. extreme issues with privacy and performance are Surely going to result, and even IF the browser continues to operate decently, you are STILL going to lose Many users out of spite and moral disagreement. So, I hope "Anthony" is proud to be the beginning of the end for this company, because if you don't revert course I simply do not have words for the slow corporate death the once-beloved browser will experience. You ARE the "no-ai, actually works" browser, and now you're throwing that away? Your ONLY advantage in a world utterly dominated by Chrome and chromium-based browsers? Do I need to explain the breadth of stupidity of that decision? My god, you guys. Withstand the ai bubble that will inevitably send us hurdling into recession, Resist, what's wrong with you? If this is about increasing shareholder value with the Magic Word "ai", im sure those same shareholders will be pleased to hear about your impending hemorrhaging userbase. Take it back.

Georgia 於 2 個月前 詢問

Paul 最近回覆於 2 個月前

Can we quit with bringing in AI?

Holy hell, this is an awful idea. Firefox has been like, the most widely-supported and accessible competitor to Chrome that hasn't started pawning off data willy-nilly, a… (閱讀更多)

Holy hell, this is an awful idea. Firefox has been like, the most widely-supported and accessible competitor to Chrome that hasn't started pawning off data willy-nilly, and now your investor-pickled brain is deciding to add the Unethical Slop Generator built in? Fuck off. Pull anything, and you're losing customers.

realu 於 2 個月前 詢問

Paul 最近回覆於 2 個月前

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AI policies

The only reason I have been using firefox all this time because it does not use ai features and has more trustworthy policies for user data. Given the recent ceo change a… (閱讀更多)

The only reason I have been using firefox all this time because it does not use ai features and has more trustworthy policies for user data. Given the recent ceo change and his opinions about ai features if it is true and ai is added I will stop using this browser and I know a lot of people will also do it.

Zehra İyigun 於 2 個月前 詢問

Paul 於 2 個月前 解答

ai bloat

the only reason ive been using firefox is because its one of the few browsers that doesnt use AI. now this? anthony enzor-demeo what in the hell is wrong with you? no one… (閱讀更多)

the only reason ive been using firefox is because its one of the few browsers that doesnt use AI. now this? anthony enzor-demeo what in the hell is wrong with you? no one wants this, stop pushing AI in a browser we all use SPECIFICALLY to avoid other browsers' (like chrome) sell out. i dont care if there's opt out I don't want this to be an option in the first place, and I know a lot of others feel the same.

i am not the kind of person who has brand loyalty, and if you continue with this I'll find something else to use.

Jay Thompson 於 2 個月前 詢問

Paul 最近回覆於 2 個月前

Concerns about future AI implementation

I recently heard about Mozilla's potential future plans to increase the browser's AI features, and wanted to voice my concerns about this. I avoid using AI due to environ… (閱讀更多)

I recently heard about Mozilla's potential future plans to increase the browser's AI features, and wanted to voice my concerns about this.

I avoid using AI due to environmental, privacy, and ethical reasons, and one of my main motivations for choosing Firefox over another browser is specifically because of the option to turn AI features off. (And I believe this is the case for a large portion of the userbase.)

If Mozilla opts to push for more AI implementation within Firefox, I will switch to another browser.

pipsa.kaartinen 於 2 個月前 詢問

Paul 最近回覆於 2 個月前

AI implementation

there's no way I'll continue to use Firefox if AI is implemented, for years the reason I used this browser is because of it's safety and security and I believe if AI is i… (閱讀更多)

there's no way I'll continue to use Firefox if AI is implemented, for years the reason I used this browser is because of it's safety and security and I believe if AI is implemented that will indefinitely go away. I will ditch this browser if this comes to pass.

ononomous.n1020 於 2 個月前 詢問

Paul 最近回覆於 2 個月前

Why is everyone shoving AI down our throats?

I have no interest in it and view it as a security risk and liability. I've been using Firefox for over a decade, every since I realized how horrible Google is. Why the h… (閱讀更多)

I have no interest in it and view it as a security risk and liability. I've been using Firefox for over a decade, every since I realized how horrible Google is. Why the heck would Mozilla do this?

curlyandy 於 2 個月前 詢問

Paul 最近回覆於 2 個月前

Do not add AI to firefox

I am someone who uses firefox for its simplicity and its privacy, away from all the bloat and walls that chromium or other browsers supplies. Adding AI to the browser wil… (閱讀更多)

I am someone who uses firefox for its simplicity and its privacy, away from all the bloat and walls that chromium or other browsers supplies. Adding AI to the browser will harm mine and others experiences, as well as cause less powerful machines to struggle to run. Please do not add AI

Soap 於 2 個月前 詢問

Paul 最近回覆於 2 個月前

Concern about "AI Future"

I strongly disagree with the proposed AI-centric direction for Firefox. I already disable any current AI features in this browser and disagree with them being there at al… (閱讀更多)

I strongly disagree with the proposed AI-centric direction for Firefox. I already disable any current AI features in this browser and disagree with them being there at all. I am firmly anti-AI in the form/use that is most prevalent. I don't want an AI chatbot or AI summaries. AI is not a replacement for human thought. It cannot perceive. It cannot understand. It cannot communicate. Even if it produces a convincing enough mimicry of those things to convince some people that it is capable of doing those things. It's like that IBM training slide from 1979 that says "A computer can never be held accountable, therefore a computer must never make a management decision." Firefox's blog entry about these proposed updates is full of nothing but glittering generalities, just buzz-phrases like "you're in control" and "a better browser" and "trusted companion." AI is not a trusted companion. AI is hyper-advanced autocorrect. And with AI's harshness on the environment (requires astronomical and unsustainable amounts of water) and on the browser itself (slows it down considerably and makes it more vulnerable to security breaches like prompt injection attacks), I just don't think "everybody else is doing AI" is a valid reason to override the main reason most Firefox users use it (because of its lack of AI features and focus on privacy). I'm a long-time user of Firefox and I have really enjoyed it, but one of the biggest issues I have had with it in the last few years is disabling all the AI garbage features that keep getting sneaked in. If AI use or AI-driven features become a substantial part of Firefox, I won't be using it anymore.

gatomonkitty2004 於 2 個月前 詢問

Wren Blue 最近回覆於 1 週前

Stop with the AI

To whoever this new CEO is of firefox, Stop with the AI garbage. Please. AI is a notorious waste of space in software and all it does is bog down the experience and make … (閱讀更多)

To whoever this new CEO is of firefox,

Stop with the AI garbage. Please.

AI is a notorious waste of space in software and all it does is bog down the experience and make everything harder for everyone. Also it is notorious for collecting information and violating users privacy like the lab rats you apparently take us for.

Stop it.

I loved Firefox because I could use it comfortably without all of this stupid AI crap making my life harder. I've already hacked my browser to make sure this doesn't appear but I'm not satisfied. To any other firefox tech reading this get that Anthony guy out of here. We don't want him, and we don't want AI.

Thank you.

caspian0price 於 2 個月前 詢問

Paul 最近回覆於 2 個月前

AI implementation is a plague

If Firefox becomes an "AI browser" as it's new CEO says I will switch to another browser. The privacy and environmental problems alone are enough for me to warrant this c… (閱讀更多)

If Firefox becomes an "AI browser" as it's new CEO says I will switch to another browser. The privacy and environmental problems alone are enough for me to warrant this change, to say nothing of how it's slowing the browser itself down and making it worse. I'm sick and tired of AI shoving itself into every single aspect of life, taking things that already worked fine on their own and making them worse for no reason, in addition to ruining the planet and encroaching more and more on the privacy of everyday folks like myself. Anthony Enzor-DeMeo's insistence that we should "trust" this hypothetical version of the browser is frankly sickening, and everyone involved in this scam should be ashamed.

dtrazmw 於 2 個月前 詢問

Paul 最近回覆於 2 個月前

Please don't ruin Firefox

The entire appeal of this browser is that it has NOT been ruined with AI slop. I will stop using Firefox if this incredibly out of touch new CEO gets his way and destroys… (閱讀更多)

The entire appeal of this browser is that it has NOT been ruined with AI slop. I will stop using Firefox if this incredibly out of touch new CEO gets his way and destroys everything I like about it. Please reconsider betraying everyone who chooses to use your product.

senatorlemon 於 2 個月前 詢問

Paul 最近回覆於 2 個月前

Remove AI features or make them opt-in

I had switched to Firefox some time ago because of the privacy-invading AI that Google and Microsoft were implementing at the time, and it appeared Mozilla had their cons… (閱讀更多)

I had switched to Firefox some time ago because of the privacy-invading AI that Google and Microsoft were implementing at the time, and it appeared Mozilla had their consumers' interests in mind when it came to privacy and performance. I suppose even they are willing to shoot themselves in the foot with the market failure that is generative AI, despite the recent reports about Copilot's abysmal sales proving that this maneuver is incredibly short-sighted.

Not only are these AI "features" enabled by default upon updating, the options to disable each of them are all hidden away in the about:config page. On top of that, having these options enabled leads to worse performance overall, and the breach of privacy inherent to these features is quite worrisome as well.

The best step now is to remove these features completely. If Mozilla won't remove them, they should at least have them disabled by default, making them opt-in as opposed to the opt-out situation currently in place. Perhaps they could be listed as proper options somewhere in about:preferences so that people don't have to comb through the about:config list?

I know I would appreciate not having to switch browsers again, and I'm sure plenty of users would like to have their privacy respected as well. We don't want to see this browser become as terrible to use as other big-name brands. If Mozilla keep pushing these invasive features, we will find something else to use.

Limesar 於 2 個月前 詢問

sahneschnitzel43 最近回覆於 2 個月前

AI in Firefox Desktop

I am seriously concerned about the upcoming use of AI in Mozilla Firefox. The only reason I use Firefox is because it is one of the few remaining widely compatible browse… (閱讀更多)

I am seriously concerned about the upcoming use of AI in Mozilla Firefox. The only reason I use Firefox is because it is one of the few remaining widely compatible browsers that allow me to switch off any AI features. Generative AI is needlessly wasteful and absolutely pointless. Is there any way to prevent this from being forcibly added to Firefox?

jackaj1995 於 2 個月前 詢問

Paul 最近回覆於 2 個月前

Regarding new AI features

I've recently learned that Firefox is pivoting to use more GenAI in its browser, and not to beat a dead horse, but I think I'm speaking with a large amount of the users o… (閱讀更多)

I've recently learned that Firefox is pivoting to use more GenAI in its browser, and not to beat a dead horse, but I think I'm speaking with a large amount of the users of this browser when we beg for this not to become a thing. I specifically switched from Google in order to dodge their AI systems, and it feels like a slap in the face for Firefox to do the exact same thing. Now only is AI terrible for the already deteriorating environment and water, but it also shares misinformation, has encouraged people to end their own lives, steals art from people who put hours into their craft, and is frequently used for deepfakes, non-consensual imagery of people doing various sexual acts, CP, propaganda, and more.

I really thought that Firefox was one of the good ones. I'm immensely disappointed in the fact that they would choose to do this, and if this GenAI thing actually goes through, I for one will no longer be supporting Mozilla, Firefox, or any of their content for the foreseeable future, until they remove these harmful features.

e70660993 於 2 個月前 詢問

Paul 最近回覆於 2 個月前