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In 26.0, how do I put Download, Bookmarks, History, and Tags into separate windows? I have multi-monitor system and place these different windows . . .

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Hello,

I recently, decided to upgrade from 19.0b to the current (26.0) version, as "Tab Utilities" now supports 26, but am finding one of the visual changes counter productive. My two workstations have multiple monitors. One has 2 monitors (2560x1600) and the other one has 4 monitors (2560x1600). On both workstations, I'll place the various Firefox informational windows off the "main monitor" (the one directly in front of me). This way they're available to me at a glance.

(Side note: I refer to my monitors, as 2L, 1 2R and the 4th as "auxiliary.") The one thing I miss most is being able size these Firefox windows independently and in different positions.

I mean I'm used to seeing "Download" on monitor 2R on the right side (1/8 of screen) behind Microsoft Process Explorer's System Information. While the History will be on monitor 2L on the right side at 1/4 of the screen). I'm used to glancing out my right eye at the downloads and when needing something from the past, it's right next to the main monitor #1. This way I can access history quickly.

I can see why a developer (with one monitor say 1920 x 1080) would love seeing one window, but why can't Firefox support both single and multiple monitor users at the same?

Anyway, is there a way to get 26.0 to place at least "Download" and "History" in separate sizable windows?

(I'm not jumping up and down to go back to 19.0b or to try 25, but would like to stay current.)

Hello, I recently, decided to upgrade from 19.0b to the current (26.0) version, as "Tab Utilities" now supports 26, but am finding one of the visual changes counter productive. My two workstations have multiple monitors. One has 2 monitors (2560x1600) and the other one has 4 monitors (2560x1600). On both workstations, I'll place the various Firefox informational windows off the "main monitor" (the one directly in front of me). This way they're available to me at a glance. (Side note: I refer to my monitors, as 2L, 1 2R and the 4th as "auxiliary.") The one thing I miss most is being able size these Firefox windows independently and in different positions. I mean I'm used to seeing "Download" on monitor 2R on the right side (1/8 of screen) behind Microsoft Process Explorer's System Information. While the History will be on monitor 2L on the right side at 1/4 of the screen). I'm used to glancing out my right eye at the downloads and when needing something from the past, it's right next to the main monitor #1. This way I can access history quickly. I can see why a developer (with one monitor say 1920 x 1080) would love seeing one window, but why can't Firefox support both single and multiple monitor users at the same? Anyway, is there a way to get 26.0 to place at least "Download" and "History" in separate sizable windows? (I'm not jumping up and down to go back to 19.0b or to try 25, but would like to stay current.)

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For inspecting the downloads you can use the about:downloads page.
For the bookmarks and the history you can use the sidebar (View > Sidebar).

Another possibility could be to open the Library in a tab or separate window by using its chrome URI.

  • chrome://browser/content/places/places.xul
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Hello,

Thank you for the quick reply. I was already aware of the "about:download" opening the download list in a new tab. In my initial version of the question, I included using it, but removed it during proof reading. The chrome URI is new news, to me and thank you.

Unfortunately these suggestions don't address the need to have:

  • History on monitor 2L and sized for 1/4 of the screen (e.g. 800 x 1500)
  • Download on monitor 2R and size for 1/8 of the screen (e.g. 300 x 1500)

Placing this information into tabs is NOT helpful, when one wants to:

  • Glance at it in real time, while working on other things / project / topics . .
  • Look at the entire history and then drag and drop to a specific Firefox window an entry.

My hope is to have Firefox be able to use multiple monitors in helpful ways, as it was in 19.0b (and maybe 25 -- I'm saying 25 based upon reading many other people discussing the download window missing).

Question: Why can't Firefox support both types of people? Those who need a compact view **AND** those with more desktop space??? After all until now we had GOOD (maybe even GREAT) multiple monitor support. WHY TAKE IT AWAY FROM US?

Best approach: Allow the end-user to choose how much desktop space (s)he wants to devote to Firefox by supporting both a compact (e.g. current with 26.0) view and expanded (multiple windows, as in 25.0 and earlier) view.

由 Bertram_Moshier 於 修改

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Maybe I am missing your point. I understand the way downloads are displayed has changed.

  • What else changed regarding multiple monitor support ?

Does it not help if the chrome tab is opened in a separate Firefox window.

You are then for instance able to

  • remove the bookmarks & navigation toolbar (not ? Australis)
  • shrink the left hand pane
  • resize and reposition the window
    • That may allow
      History on monitor 2L and sized for 1/4 of the screen (e.g. 800 x 1500)
      Download on monitor 2R and size for 1/8 of the screen (e.g. 300 x 1500)

If your problem is that Tab Utilities settings or features are preventing you from doing this because of how that is used it is possible to run a simultaneous separate instance of Firefox but that is likely to defeat the objective as it would need to be running with a separate profile; and so have a different History etc.

I am sure I need not remind you that running outdated, unsupported & insecure versions of Firefox increases risks to your System & personal data.

由 John99 於 修改

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Hello,

Thank you for your very quick reply. Before I read your reply completely, let me see if I can answer your first concern.

> Maybe I am missing your point.

Maybe I'm not making the point properly. Honestly, I never explained the issue from how it is directly affecting me.

OK, let's do a real world example of what I'm seeing on my two monitor system. I'll first describe what I experienced with 19.0b and earlier, which is IMHO how it should work in 26 and beyond (as an option). Next, I'll review what I'm seeing in 26.0. Hopefully this will help you understand what changed, from a practical perspective.

In 19.0b (and how I like working) for a multiple monitor system:

On the main monitor, I'm running Firefox. It is 1920 x 1080 and is in the lower right hand corner.

On the the monitor to my right (2R), I have the Download Manager list of downloading and downloaded file. It is in the upper right hand corner and takes up about 300 x 1500 pixels.

For a two monitor system, I have the History List running beside Firefox in the lower right hand corner and it is 600 x 1080.

For a three (plus) monitor system, I have the History List running on my left (2L) monitor. It is in the lower right hand corner and is 600 x 1080 pixels big.

For 26.0: I'm seeing the following:

On the main monitor, I'm running Firefox. It is 1920 x 1080 and is in the lower right hand corner. (This is the SAME as with 19.0b.)

When I start the Download Manager and have it set up as I do for 19.0b, it looks OK. It is on monitor 2R and is 450 x 1500 pixels (because of the new navigation side bar).

The problem STARTS NOW (when I start the History List).

When starting the History List, it replaces the Download Manger on the 2R monitor in the 450 x 1500 pixel window. This doesn't work for me because:

1) It is too far away to see. (NOTE: I put it on the 2L monitor in the lower right hand corner. so I can see it easier for the 3+ monitor. In the case of the 2 monitor, I put it beside Firefox again to see it easier.)

Some might ask, but the Download Manager is on the 2R and right side, why can't the History List be there too? Good question, and I can only reply saying:

1) Personal choice. 2) The Download Manager is NOT as busy as the History List and I find it easy to read. 3) The History List is a lot busier and the font size looks to be smaller (might be the same, but it looks smaller to my eyes). I need it closer to me / Firefox.


What I'm saying is this . . . The Download Manager and History List have
    valid reasons to be visible to the user at the same time.
They also need to be independent of one another for (at least) size and location.

Combining them together is OK for some people, but NOT for everyone. Please make it an option to combine (as in 26) and separate (25 and earlier).


I'm not sure this is the best way to put it, but here goes. Allow users to collapse or expand these various lists by using multiple windows. One window is the collapse view and multiple independent windows is the expand view.


I'll read and comment on the rest of your reply, soon. Thanks for allowing me hopefully to explain my point in a better manner. :-)

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I wonder if my attached screenshot helps.

Ignore the upper left menubar mentioning Aurora that is another Firefox instance that I am posting this reply from. I have used a laptop with only the built-in single screen.

The foreground is three Firefox Windows from the same instance of Firefox Nightly. The main one is behind and has this thread in it. In front are two other windows The left hand small window is a Chrome window showing my downloads, the righthand one is a small standard library window showing my history.

I see no reason why you can not do something similar but have independent History and Downloads on the additional screens instead of within a single screen as I have done.

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If you create a bookmark for about:downloads on the Bookmarks Toolbar or Bookmarks Menu (I call mine a:d) you can launch it in a separate window by Shift+clicking it.

If you leave that window open and use the session restore feature at startup, then Firefox should re-open it automatically. What I don't know is whether Firefox can maintain window positions on multiple monitors when it restores a session.