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The windows of the Windows bar are already a form of tabs, so I don't need them in Firefox. How can I disable them completely from Firefox 23?

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The windows of the Windows bar are already a form of tabs, so I don't need them in Firefox. How can I disable them completely from Firefox 23?

RE: TABS ARE WINDOWS! The Windows bar already functions as a tab bar. Those tabs are called "windows." So, I find Firefox tab windows superfluous. How can I disable them completely from Firefox 23? I don't need what is essentially TWO windows bars covering up the entire width of my widescreen monitor's image! I already have a Windows bar at the bottom of my screen and, if I really wanted to, I could change ITS position to the top of the screen, so that it would LOOK like the Firefox tab windows bar. Firefox TABS are, essentially, a superfluous SECOND WINDOWS BAR.

Here are my reasons for why I'd rather use Mozilla's Firefox, than Microsoft's Internet Explorer or Google's Chrome. I love and admire Firefox for Mozilla's intent on good security, for Firefox's Personas add-on, and for Firefox's free use of the Ad-Block add-on which, as you know, has the distinct virtue of reducing screen clutter--the last of which is my motive for wanting to get rid of the SUPERFLUOUS Firefox tabs "windows" bar. I am dreadfully sick of companies forcing miscellaneous bars (mostly representing marketing campaigns trying to sell me something) into my browser (and down my throat) every time I download something. (In case you haven't guessed, I am deliberately referring to your Firefox tabs bar as a "Firefox tabs 'windows' bar," because TABS are WINDOWS!)

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Re: The windows of the Windows bar are already a form of tabs, so I don't need them in Firefox. How can I disable them completely from Firefox 23?

You can also have a addon to open all new tabs in a new window.

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Re: The windows of the Windows bar are already a form of tabs, so I don't need them in Firefox. How can I disable them completely from Firefox 23?

Hello,

In Firefox 23, as part of an effort to simplify the firefox options set and protect users from unintentially damaging their Firefox, the option to hide the tab bar was removed.

Fortunately, this can easily be resolved if you desire the keep tabs hidden. You can install "Hide tab bar with one tab", an extension hosted on Mozilla's add-ons site, which will restore the ability to hide the tab bar.

Thank you and I hope this helps!

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Re: The windows of the Windows bar are already a form of tabs, so I don't need them in Firefox. How can I disable them completely from Firefox 23?

I don't think you get my question. Obviously, this add-on helps. However, my main point is that TABS ARE WINDOWS! I don't need Firefox "tabs" at all! Because, I ALREADY HAVE tab windows in my Windows bar!

Windows has windows in the Windows bar. I don't need TWO windows bars--I don't need, both, windows in the Windows bar AND windows in the Firefox tabs bar, because, as everyone already knows, tabs are windows!

Tabs is the Mozilla Firefox brand name for windows that are in Firefox. I recommend that you stop calling them tabs. They are not tabs; they are windows. Admittedly, you can call them whatever you want. You can put a brand name on them. But, they are STILL WINDOWS--not tabs. I don't want tabs, because I already have them--in Windows, in what is called the "Windows bar." Do I make my question clear? Am I failing to describe the question properly and understandably? Or, do you just not have the answer? I understand that "tabs" is your name for windows within the browser. The problem I have is that I want to turn them off! Savvy?

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Re: The windows of the Windows bar are already a form of tabs, so I don't need them in Firefox. How can I disable them completely from Firefox 23?

Let me clarify even more. The Firefox add-on you mention does not remove "tabs" windows. It only HIDES the "tabs" bar when there is only one "tab" in that window. It DOES NOT end "tabs." It does not turn "tabs" off.

I know this, because, even with the add-on you recommend, the "tabs" bar often re-appears when I open a link, which--for some unknown reason--Firefox defaults to opening in a second "tab" within the same window, rather than putting it in a new Windows bar window. This, of course, disregards what I want to happen.

I want to use my Windows bar to control my windows. I do not want my Firefox browser controlling my windows--which it calls "tabs." Can you tell me how to shut off "tabs?"

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Re: The windows of the Windows bar are already a form of tabs, so I don't need them in Firefox. How can I disable them completely from Firefox 23?

You can turn off tabs a bit more by going into Firefox > Options > Tabs, uncheck "Open new windows in new tabs".

I'm not sure why you decided to rant about tabs now, they've been a standard in Firefox since almost the beginning, and every other major browser has had them for years. You can use windows or tabs, it's up to you, but most users find tabs more convenient to use, instead of having multiple windows you can use tabs to view multiples pages at the same time.

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Re: The windows of the Windows bar are already a form of tabs, so I don't need them in Firefox. How can I disable them completely from Firefox 23?

You can also have a addon to open all new tabs in a new window.

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Re: The windows of the Windows bar are already a form of tabs, so I don't need them in Firefox. How can I disable them completely from Firefox 23?

"Tabs" windows have "been a standard" INTERFERENCE TO ME nearly since the beginning of Firefox, you mean!

I think the correct answer (as to why I've decided to "rant" about "tabs" now) is in your question. But, I'll ask you one: You're a "Top Ten" contributor?

Don't think that I'm not grateful for "tabs" windows: I appreciate them as an option that I can turn off.

Firefox went through a period where the "tabs" windows, themselves, were optional--don't forget. Although, I can't remember how many versions.

As to why I'm complaining now, you might have guessed, it's because Mozilla took away the switch that removes the tabs bar when only one tab is open, with Firefox 23. However, my question is two-fold: Mozilla turned off the button removing the tabs bar AND I DON'T WANT TABS AT ALL. While the first complaint is, as you said, the reason I'm waiting 'til now to complain, it is on the second part that you show an inability to answer. The Firefox 23 version is the cause of my timing. Obviously, the reason you can answer the first part of my question, but not the second, is because YOU'VE FORGOTTEN THAT "TABS" WERE NEVER NEEDED TO BEGIN WITH. This is probably a malfunction due to people's complaints not being complete enough to include that second part.

Yes, it is safe to guess that the second part is connected to the first while people are asking you to tell them which add-on will get rid of the bar, so, the next time you tell someone about the add-on for the first complaint, I recommend that you should also give them the add-on that resolves the second part of my question!

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Re: The windows of the Windows bar are already a form of tabs, so I don't need them in Firefox. How can I disable them completely from Firefox 23?

Thank you, and thank Mozilla for a wonderful product that I continue to use.

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Re: The windows of the Windows bar are already a form of tabs, so I don't need them in Firefox. How can I disable them completely from Firefox 23?

Tylerdowner said:

"Hello,

In Firefox 23, as part of an effort to simplify the firefox options set and protect users from unintentially damaging their Firefox, the option to hide the tab bar was removed.

Fortunately, this can easily be resolved if you desire the keep tabs hidden. You can install "Hide tab bar with one tab", an extension hosted on Mozilla's add-ons site, which will restore the ability to hide the tab bar.

Thank you and I hope this helps!"

I'm confused. HOW in the name of all things redundant did people start "damaging their Firefox" by removing those annoying tabs? I shouldn't need an extension (to an already bloated with extensions browser) to choose NOT to redundantly want to see or use tabs. Tabs are just minimized windows that show at the top of the screen and not just at the bottom. I agree with the other guy (arthurblenheim) in saying that there are whole cults of us who are NOT AT ALL HAPPY buying in to the crappy "Tabs" thing Microsoft started. Almost the beginning of Firefox is not always in Firefox.

If I open 6 windows, and minimize them, it is NO DIFFERENT than opening 6 tabs EXCEPT... Now I have 6 showing open on a tab bar and 6 showing open at the bottom. YOU ARE WASTING SCREEN SPACE USING TABS!

Now, the main point I have is... WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU REMOVE THE OPTION TO CUSTOMIZE AND REMOVE THE TAB BAR (ie REMOVE TABS ALTOGETHER?????? (Because obviously people are trying if they are willing to screw up Firefox to remove tabs!)

Don't tell me it's because of some really unintelligent people somehow "damaging" their Firefox because it's just as easy to check a box as it is to uncheck it. If it was because YOU (at Mozilla) removed the box altogether, then that was YOUR oversight, not the people who use Firefox. I await the Official Mozilla public answer. Just to be clear:

WHY WOULD YOU REMOVE THE OPTION TO CUSTOMIZE / REMOVE THE TAB BAR (ie REMOVE TABS ALTOGETHER?

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