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29 looks just awefull, how to completly revert back to 28?

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29 looks just awefull, how to completly revert back to 28?

I did update to FF 29 and to my horror it just looks awful and makes no sense at all anymore :( Seems somehow FF thinks it's wise to make it look like other browsers :( I did try the "old look"-add on, did try the add-ons to get buttons back on the bottom (which is the most logical place for them), and so on. But the overall look just stays awful :( Until there is an option where I can get the real and logical version 28 layout back, where is a complete version of FF 28 so I can use a logical layout FF browser?

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New User

Re: 29 looks just awefull, how to completly revert back to 28?

Hi meegja,

I'm one of the developers of the new Firefox UI and I hope I'll be able to answer your question.

You can indeed use the Classic Theme Restorer add-on to bring back many things to way they were.

However, I strongly suggest to try working with this version and layout for a while, even though this change might not be comfortable for you at first. We came up with this new look after thorough testing, user interviews and usability studies for over four years. I understand this might feel for you to drop out of the sky on you all of a sudden, but please understand that all of the new/ updated UI elements are carefully considered.

I hope you understand,

Mike.

Regular User

Re: 29 looks just awefull, how to completly revert back to 28?

Hello Mike

I do understand that this all has been tested, developed and so on.

But there is just one thing I completely do not understand: the removal of the bottom placing of add-on icons. For example, the NoScript add on. The icon itself shows warnings. What is the most logical place for warnings/notifications on a Windows system? Yep, the lower right part of your screen because Windows (but also anti virus software and so on) warnings/notifications are there too.
I am working on a 27" screen and the placement of the icons on top instead of the bottom is totally not logical. Literary looking up and down now each time. So besides that that is *very* uncomfortable, it now also enhances that change that I overlook something.

About the overall layout itself: it is awful. I understand that you suggest to give it a change. But I already did that with the layouts of IE and Chrome and those are awful. So what change do you think I will like to work with this new Crome-like clone? ;)

So my question remains: is there a download for the previous FF 28 version?

Regular User

Re: 29 looks just awefull, how to completly revert back to 28?

Okay, never mind. I just made a minimalistic, old school version of FF with just 4 simple add-ons.
Got a normal, productive FF now again that looks logical and works productively (in contradiction to the default FF 29 lay out).
Info here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/997039

New User

Re: 29 looks just awefull, how to completly revert back to 28?

Hi Meegja,

Thanks for your reply!

> I do understand that this all has been tested, developed and so on.

I think that's an understatement :)

> But there is just one thing I completely do not understand: the removal of the bottom placing of add-on icons. For example, the NoScript add on. The icon itself shows warnings.

The idea is that you put the icons/ buttons you want to see all the time on the top toolbar. The fact that you're looking down all the time to find something that is not there anymore is called muscle memory and it will take a bit of time to get used to the new situation. Trust me, you'll get used to it! The add-on toolbar is not coming back. There's always choice, however! You can install this add-on to get the toolbar back.

> So what change do you think I will like to work with this new Crome-like clone? ;)

sigh. Please take a close look at Chrome and then back at Firefox. Now back at Chrome. It's completely different! Now try to install a Chrome extension and put it where you want it. It won't let you. Try the same in Firefox. Completely different! And that's what it's all about; difference. Whether the new look appeals to you aesthetically is a matter of taste and I won't argue with you over that. I use Chrome everyday, as well as Firefox, because it's different and to stay sharp.

> So my question remains: is there a download for the previous FF 28 version?

Yes, there is, but I won't provide a link here, because

  1. You can Google it with ease
  2. I'd be promoting an older, potentially less secure, version of Firefox.
Regular User

Re: 29 looks just awefull, how to completly revert back to 28?

I did say Chrome-like clone. So not Chrome look-a-like ;) And it seems I am not alone with that same feeling when I look at the reactions here and on other forums.
And all I can say for me: it's a very bad and totally useless idea. Once Firefox stood out because it handled and looked way better then other browsers.
Now, for some weird reason, it is decided that is has to look and act like other browsers. And the weird thing is, there is this total make over and at the same time there is a manual at Mozilla Support to make it look like 28 again? Okay, good support :) but a weird action, showing that there is a big demand for the old look.
Granted, it still is faster then IE though :)

New User

Re: 29 looks just awefull, how to completly revert back to 28?

Her is the link for the Win32, US English version:

https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/28.0/win32/en-US/

This page lists all versions of FF28:

https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/28.0/

Regular User

Re: 29 looks just awefull, how to completly revert back to 28?

LOLOL
Was looking on other sites and forums on other stuff about FF29. And multiple times I stumbled over a public re-brand of the Firefox name.
It's been called Chromefox now (sorry Mike, that's really how it's called).

New User

Re: 29 looks just awefull, how to completly revert back to 28?

That's all well and good for some, Mike. But what about the handicapped?

I'm a stroke survivor, and it takes me anywhere from weeks to months to adapt to a new user interface. I had to have Windows 7 custom retools to look like Windows XP just to be able to us it.

Then you - yes, YOU - slip in an update that breaks all of the adaptations I use to keep Firefox looking like version 2.0 (yes, I said two point oh!) and it sends FF into a crashing loop. When I get it into safe mode, it's some damned chrome lookalike that I wasn't able to use!!

I was lucky I still had an old full install copy of version 28 and all of my themes and extensions.

It's all well and good to cater to the majority, Mike. But when you steamroll the physically disabled? That's shallow.

Go contact the author of "Firefox 2, The Theme, Reloaded." Give him professional assistance - even a full programming team if need be. Do the same for the Status4Evah add-on.

There are those of us who CANNOT - are physically UNABLE! - to use your new look-and-feel. Are you going to discriminate against us? Tell us "So sorry, you're in the way of the future, kindly lay down and die so we can modernize"?

It look me three months to re-learn how to use one new user interface, Mike. Three months. It'll take me the same amount of time to relearn this new interface you're so enthusiastic for. Months where I won't be able to read my web-mail or attend my forums.

Do you really have such disdain for the handicapped, Mike? Would you condemn me to that?

Sincerely,

Ed Becerra

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Re: 29 looks just awefull, how to completly revert back to 28?

Meegja, that does sound funny indeed :) Not very original, but funny, yes.