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Browsers return different result from Address URL. + "Report Deceptive Site"

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[ ]A url given within Microsoft support ... community.windows.com/en-us/stories/quick-start-guide-to-windows-10 does not return query within the different Firefox Browser,at the Address Bar entry. Using Edge,and another user,the query is returned from (Microsoft.com) . I would like to believe that URLs are not 'browser specific .

[ ] Im looking at this,as DuckDuckGo returned nothing in a search. Bing returned the site in a search as a URL. Perhaps farther in the que at DuckDuckGo ?

[ ]When wanting to report this 'problem,the About 'Report Deceptive site,defaults to a 'Google Report deceptive site.

[ ]Return to DuckDuckGo. The URL then shows directly at top of Search Results immediately. Microsoft.com search then doubles my problem by appending the end of this url.. Im using the clear URLs add-on.

[ ]I would expect the same result to exist between different Browser Address entries,whoever user,and whichever search engine.... I've seemed to get old results all the time.

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I thought since I had your er here. I would mention a squible with Firefox Update Notification I've seen patterned.

[ ]More often than not,the "Firefox Has New Update",will .... '-decide,to show while Im entering a password,at a https// site. Some kind of mechanism that makes that notification function when this is happening from my Browser. It is scary enough entering a password correctly,or detailing a new one,when your notification will show at that activity. I don't think that Firefox has any AI that concerns itself with 'at will' functions,but seems the Browser should be fully functional 'before doing these types of activities,not finding 'while doing so is the necessity to do so.

Something I noticed . I'm thinking I'd like to reinstall my mouse driver or something. Thanks.

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[ ]A url given within Microsoft support ... community.windows.com/en-us/stories/quick-start-guide-to-windows-10 does not return query within the different Firefox Browser,at the Address Bar entry. Using Edge,and another user,the query is returned from (Microsoft.com) . I would like to believe that URLs are not 'browser specific . [ ] Im looking at this,as DuckDuckGo returned nothing in a search. Bing returned the site in a search as a URL. Perhaps farther in the que at DuckDuckGo ? [ ]When wanting to report this 'problem,the About 'Report Deceptive site,defaults to a 'Google Report deceptive site. [ ]Return to DuckDuckGo. The URL then shows directly at top of Search Results immediately. Microsoft.com search then doubles my problem by appending the end of this url.. Im using the clear URLs add-on. [ ]I would expect the same result to exist between different Browser Address entries,whoever user,and whichever search engine.... I've seemed to get old results all the time.
  Guess Im really saying If the Microsoft.com search (at Microsoft.com),does not return the query. There is question if site really exists. If on the web. The click at the URL link does go directly to a 'site'. But I cannot verify it belongs to Microsoft because the Microsoft.com search,does not return a query from Firefox. With the URL. Again I would expect a URL to be usable,that is exist no matter the person doing the address bar entry,search result click,or query at a top level domain,of which URL should return as result.
  Then really ? Im going to Google to report this,at a menu Item within Firefox 'About'. Instant results to my next search with a different search engine ? several troubles. Trivial or no. .. thanks.

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Hi Mike, I do not think you should use the Deceptive Site report for this problem.

The top part of your screenshot shows a search on Microsoft's main website. However, the "community" section of Microsoft's site might not be covered by that search. Even searching the title gives no results:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/search?q=quick+start+guide+to+windows+10

So that is a bit of a dead end.

The bottom part of your screenshot shows a search on Bing -- https://www.bing.com/ -- which has a much more global scope that the limited site search on the main Microsoft site. Good news there.

I don't see a screenshot for DuckDuckGo -- https://duckduckgo.com/ -- when I test it, the link pops up as the first result.

Note: This forum has a link spam filter. Any reply with a non-Mozilla URL may be delayed as it passes through the moderation queue.

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I really appreciate Mozzillas care here.I have a relative superficial understanding of Browsers,HTML,web,programs apps. etc. I did this report thing because of the expectation for different users/browsers to act the same for/from a given URL.A URL entered to Edge "should"give the same result (Location)and web site.

First the Report Deceptive site thing: That in and of itself,it is found within the 'About in FIREFOX ! The default entry of the website entered is the Mozilla FireFox URL in the text box. And AFTER ENTRY states its the better part of 'GOOGLE.!

So given integration the question there is whats it a part of within the Menu Section of Firefox...

Trouble Trouble,the web site link : https://community.windows.com/en-us/stories/quick-start-guide-to-windows-10

was put into my Favorites (as a link)...from a reply to a post within Microsofts Support.Another journey there today,later now,has the link different from my first use - to have at front of the URL,something to do with "azure".

The search at Microsoft.com. This is where I was really teed off,as being ready to enjoy some up time to something I could understand - as 'why wouldn't I be able to switch users,use the link,and firefox. Then Even with Edge .. a search at these site (get this is Microsoft.com real now)..Did not find any such site existed.

So I ask myself what am I doing in a site that doesn't exist to its progenitors.The link saved within Firefox in ToolTab . Opens to an existing really understandable instruction set.

Today:Entered At Microsoft site this URL at support search,

https://community.windows.com/en-us/stories/quick-start-guide-to-windows-10

returns no such site exists. however if: community.windows.com/en-us/stories/quick-start-guide-to-windows-10 -no https// entry,the search gladly returns to top of the engine.

Now: I have no reason to believe that DuckDuckGo would put the site to the top of the list so suddenly after filling in the "Deceptive Site" - thing.

I was concerned with URLs between different Browsers/Users being the same as entered at the Browser.

_________________________ relavant maybe below

So here is a link at ZDNET: https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-update-problem-were-fixing-kerberos-authentication-bug-says-microsoft/

and the corrosponding 'Issue'to jogg my relavance if any:

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-information/status-windows-10-20h2#1522msgdesc

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I am a little concerned that my User entry selections are highjacked by some unknown,and that the return of them are somehow spoofed,no matter the site search archetecture,in relationship to them. As if any namespace,by anyname,is the same addressing..return relationship.

_________________ A little weird to see Google within the About Firefox,and have the default address the Mozilla URL already entered there. And so on thanks....this kind of thing. Thanks a lot.

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Hi Mike, that is a lot of questions.

When you click the full link, Firefox should load the page at that URL, not run a search on it.

When you submit a partial URL as a search, your site search matters because each of them (except for Yahoo, which has a contract with Microsoft to show Bing results) has its own database of pages. Of course popular sites will be on all of them but you will get different pages and different ranking of pages for many queries. They don't share.

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[ ] For a newbie with Windows 10 here is the best of the 'Quick Start Guide I've seen:

https://community.windows.com/en-us/windows-10-get-started

Isn't much different from 'Windows10 Quick Start Guide:

https://community.windows.com/en-us/stories/quick-start-guide-to-windows-10

And different certainly this Quick Start Guide PDF Download Here:

https://wincomm-cdn-prod-westus.azureedge.net/pdfs/windows-10-quick-start-guide.pdf

The first is most usable while the others would pose extra effort via traversing the web . you can see above a work in progress remains some times.

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[ ]Still entering a complete Address at the Address bar in Firefox - 'should,return the same location between different Browsers. A partial URL that invokes the chosen Search Engine 'should,return a relavent query,every time it is used. Although the results of Search scores would tend to change it should not overly be influenced by a local computer entry. A user putting a URL in the Toolbar,like myself will have to consider it to be the 'complete' Address. Or a w/o first noticing a Site to begin with that which is described by the URL . Or desired by the user.

_______________ ____________________________ [ ]Thats what really freaked me out. A site said from a tech within support,cannot be searched,or does not exist to the progenity said it would be. There are other sites which are somewhat 'similar',but the context is not the same . A Search Engine at a Browser brings zero results,and if reported as 'Deceptive - another Start of the Search then, puts the Deceptive Site at the top of the Search Engine being used. While the 'Report A Deceptive Site appears as a competitors Integration within a known Propriety of the user.

[ ]Incidently after I had switched to Bing,the returned the Search Engine to DuckDuckGo,from the Menu at the Search Box,DuckDuckGo restarted its Instalation Routine,as if I didn't have it installed to begin with. ___________________________ [ ]I can't say for sure to be 'Solved'. Visual Aids should be used as much as possible if available. However that is another topic,the actual function and control is my concern . Context and return within the DNS most on point. I did have XP, on the way back machine. The DNS worked fine then,and Search Engines were riders,not Drivers .

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I thought since I had your er here. I would mention a squible with Firefox Update Notification I've seen patterned.

[ ]More often than not,the "Firefox Has New Update",will .... '-decide,to show while Im entering a password,at a https// site. Some kind of mechanism that makes that notification function when this is happening from my Browser. It is scary enough entering a password correctly,or detailing a new one,when your notification will show at that activity. I don't think that Firefox has any AI that concerns itself with 'at will' functions,but seems the Browser should be fully functional 'before doing these types of activities,not finding 'while doing so is the necessity to do so.

Something I noticed . I'm thinking I'd like to reinstall my mouse driver or something. Thanks.

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