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How to get back single-line page spines? The Firefox 87.0 or 88.0 have single-line page spines. The firefox 89.0 have double-line and double-height page spines. How decrese spines height back?

V89 absolutely dreadful. Uninstalled this and reverting to Edge until Mozilla sack persons responsible for this dysfunctional new version. Where has the functionality gone? Why has Mozilla turned its back on those with sight problems?

My tab bar and menu bar background is white. I have the latest FF version and I hear it should be black but it isn't. It used to be but I may have changed something and lost it?

How do I make it black for ease of visibility - but not the web pages (just the upper bars). I have searched for hours and none of the answers either match what to do, or work.

Seburo Seburo

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Today at 8:30 AM

Hi

I am going to close this thread as it appears to be a duplicate of:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1339264

I am not seeing any support request here for us to action or to assist

My previous thread locked yet again. There are several obvious questions and requests for support, yet the mod Seburo cant see them, or is choosing not to. So i'm staretring over again. Watch, here comes the disabled get bullied yet again.

In typical fashion, mozilla volunteers insist o go rewrite my letter somewhere else, on a dif page, on a dif site, in a dif location.

AGAIN, these concepts are ridiculous and not based in reality. In other forums, mods simply move posts to the appropriate topics.

Mozilla volunteers are now insisting we spend years learning and understanding the layout of their 1 forum, in order to post in what is their opinion of the proper location. If I could figure that out my own, I would have done so. But I couldn't. Mozilla makes it hard. \ So i'm reposting yet again, to show the world how this sector of human society continually gets pushed around and bullied, even when seeking support, and ZERO HELP IS EVER FORTHCOMING.

greetings,

the autistic and aspergers sector of society has an extremely difficult time with change. They have made petitions, submitted emotional testimony online in your forums, etc, and there has been a complete lack of response.

There is gobs of scientific data around this globally, and overzealous overlords in tech constantly change the way the product looks, ignoring the science. These changes do nothing for functionality for 99% of people, and doesn't generate revenue for anyone.

What it does do, is it harms, disengages, and disenfranchises this entire group of society. Where they already have an extremely difficult time, the tech world continues to march away from logic, science, and evidence, insisting decorative changes are necessary and required, when the reality is we all know, there is an over the top engineer or designer at 4am on a sunday going "OMG CHARLIE LOOK AT THIS FONT!!!!! IMPLEMENTING IT NOW!!!!!! OMG THIS BUTTON NEEDS TO BE OVER HERE NOW!!!!!"

And then, they force us to accept these changes, without warning, teaching or sharing the change, and without giving the majority the information they need, or the ability to understand or even use the change.

These changes toss their family and home lives into chaos, stress, weeks of slow, turtle like crawl back towards some stability in these humans lives. In extreme cases, these individuals can be physically violent with their family because they have social disabilities, emotionally damaging relations, love, and kindness, simply because the tech world is full of 1 up man ship, instead of logic or compassion.

The tech world can literally design build and create anything, except the concept of no change for those that need it most.

Every time there is these fundamental changes either to design or functionality, these humans retreat from the life they have that comforts them, they lose advancements in their personal lives, and it disturbs and can harm their well being, their home lives, and their relationships with their care takers.

The latest update for your browser changed my childs right click menu, that he spent months learning about how to change and setup for himself. He cannot understand or comprehend how he laboured for what to him seems to be an eternity, and one day when he fires his browser up, all his hard work is gone, that he literally spent months learning.

This time, because he cant reach his emotions, because of the changes firefox forcibly deepthroats planet earth with, he picked up his laptop and threw it out the rear window of the house, a total cost to repair and replace all damages amounting to just under $8000.

Because someone changed his personal stuff. In his private space. Located in his personal house, where he lives in privacy with his family. WHY WOULD THAT CHANGE? WHY SHOULD THAT CHANGE?. HIS PERSONAL ITEMS CHANGED IN HIS PRIVATE LIFE. And no one told him. No one educated him on it. No one told him why it would be better. No one provided him with the tools to use it. He spent months learning this stuff, and one day he woke up and his effort was erased from the planet.

Keep up the good work.

We're all wondering why this stuff is all ok?

Why is it ok to take a virtual machete to someone else's hard work because someone wants a different color?

Henry Ford never went into that car you bought, and changed the location of the steering wheel or the pedals.

Thomas Edison never went into your house, and changed out the light switches for a new design or shape.

GE never went into any ones home and changed the plastic bezel on our tv's.

But all of a sudden, we have a tech world where the only constant, is change. Change of colors and buttons, which in most cases, the business world of making money, keeps saying is costing us, as a society, billions now, and its not generating revenue, its a loss and write off. The business world struggles to keep up with dynamic products, reeducating and relearning, because some digital exist in a logic vacuum.

Speaking of losses, even the general public sees little to no value in change that serves nothing but whimful designers. In fact, the majority of research indicates that the public would rather be able to makes their own style and design changes, instead of the dynamic, impossible to keep up with changes that have morphed into a false idea of progress in the computer world.

CHANGING COLORS AND BUTTONS AND FONTS IS KILLING THESE VERY SPECIAL PEOPLE INSIDE. AND IT ISN'T THEIR FAULT. ITS A DISABILITY

When can we expect Firefox to reach the reality that the public already knows?

This was also sent as an email, to mozilla press, via the web form. As of today, the recieving email address is unknown and hidden, because instead of posting a public address, mozilla uses a web form preventing a submitter from retaining a copy for themselves in most cases, in the form of sent mail. That in and of itself, at face value, appears to be intentional, a deceptive process of false engagement. Another disturbing fact in all this, is that more and more companies are hiding the who/what/where/why of their leadership.

As an individual, i am becoming more and more leery of companies and organizations that hide all forms of contacts and insist people use a forum, where they may or may not get a response, resulting in zero accountability in most cases. (When organizations ask for free public volunteers to be members and help the public, that amounts to social theft. Multiple countries on earth have outlawed this type of behavior, as it resembles an unpaid internship, resulting in free monetary maintenance value for profit oriented organizations, which I acknowledge firefox is not).

If an email submitter cant archive or even retain a sent email, because their point of contact was forcibly moved to an unaccountable web form, any organization can deny all existence of submissions, and thus wash their hands of all responsibility and plead ignorance.

If your organization truly advocates for a healthy internet as it virtue signals, then this letter would never have been necessary.

Every single person on earth, is trying to understand, for 25 years, why our lap top and computer screens are 14 to 20 inches wide, and when we send an email or forum submission to firefox, all the text exists inside a 2 inch by 2 inch window, with 10 inches of unused dead space surrounding the text field, complicating and making editing and fluid reading 100% impossible. We cant read 1 complete line at once, we have to scroll and scroll and scroll in order to read 1 SINGLE SENTENCE. And then you forget what you typed in the previous line because your eyes cant flit and read it in an instant, you have to grab a mouse and scroll, causing you to forget what you were trying to edit, making you go back and find the questionable entry all over again, repeating the process. Tiny text entry boxes are personal time thieves, requiring more effort and time to use. And then because the text box is so small, some people simply write in MS Word or a text document, and copy pasta it over, because you can see multiple lines and paragraphs simultaneously, simplifying and smoothing the editing and proof reading process, all because of a design fail that has been implemented globally as good because its something different than what to used to exist, when we all admit the functionality is a complete failure in all aspects.

Imagine that. Not using the firefox submission form makes life easier to contact firefox. WOW. What a paradox.

These are absolutely preposterous concepts, yet they have existed for 25 years and more. Everyone I know objects, and finds it ridiculous. Yet it persists.

We keep pushing people away and disengaging some, because the rest can cope or deal, or simply to choose assimilate because they feel 100% powerless to have a voice.

The new tab "button" hovers over the browser, and to my aspergers child, seems to be disconnected from the tab and in the wrong place. With no ability to fix, commence bay glass window shatter countdown.

$8000 repair bill in 10, 9, 8, 7, 6........

.....because layouts, colors, button placements and designs, are changed. And nobody asked for it.

               Addendum: I have always set up my mouse to scroll 3 lines with a scroll. This letter, takes me 4 minutes to scroll through, even thought it is only 1 page. Because the text box is 2 inches wide**** 

What a ridiculous waste of time, effort, energy, and my life. Thanks firefox. Thanks for promoting a healthy and safe internet.

To add to the above, i made an account or something to post this on this forum, i never save passwords or logins for any accounts and ff displays no known logins or passwords in my settings, yet this site has only ever asked me to login once, somehow somewhwere saving my information that i dont want saved, anywhere anyhow.

to furthur add insult to injury, the most used font on earth is helvitica, which has been removed from the entire firefox browser.

We are now expected to all be engineers and developers and self code our browsers to provide basic functionality to ourselves.

What an absolute slap in the face to human beings.

Thanks again for promoting that healthy internet.

Note for Serburo: If you actually honestly read my post, you will find multiple questions, and multiple requests for support. Do not lock without proper responses this time, as you have now violated the firefox support mandate twice.

greetings,

the autistic and aspergers sector of society has an extremely difficult time with change. They have made petitions, submitted emotional testimony online in your forums, etc, and there has been a complete lack of response.

There is gobs of scientific data around this globally, and overzealous overlords in tech constantly change the way the product looks, ignoring the science. These changes do nothing for functionality for 99% of people, and doesn't generate revenue for anyone.

What it does do, is it harms, disengages, and disenfranchises this entire group of society. Where they already have an extremely difficult time, the tech world continues to march away from logic, science, and evidence, insisting decorative changes are necessary and required, when the reality is we all know, there is an over the top engineer or designer at 4am on a sunday going "OMG CHARLIE LOOK AT THIS FONT!!!!! IMPLEMENTING IT NOW!!!!!! OMG THIS BUTTON NEEDS TO BE OVER HERE NOW!!!!!"

And then, they force us to accept these changes, without warning, teaching or sharing the change, and without giving the majority the information they need, or the ability to understand or even use the change.

These changes toss their family and home lives into chaos, stress, weeks of slow, turtle like crawl back towards some stability in these humans lives. In extreme cases, these individuals can be physically violent with their family because they have social disabilities, emotionally damaging relations, love, and kindness, simply because the tech world is full of 1 up man ship, instead of logic or compassion.

The tech world can literally design build and create anything, except the concept of no change for those that need it most.

Every time there is these fundamental changes either to design or functionality, these humans retreat from the life they have that comforts them, they lose advancements in their personal lives, and it disturbs and can harm their well being, their home lives, and their relationships with their care takers.

The latest update for your browser changed my childs right click menu, that he spent months learning about how to change and setup for himself. He cannot understand or comprehend how he laboured for what to him seems to be an eternity, and one day when he fires his browser up, all his hard work is gone, that he literally spent months learning.

This time, because he cant reach his emotions, because of the changes firefox forcibly deepthroats planet earth with, he picked up his laptop and threw it out the rear window of the house, a total cost to repair and replace all damages amounting to just under $8000.

Because someone changed his personal stuff. In his private space. Located in his personal house, where he lives in privacy with his family. WHY WOULD THAT CHANGE? WHY SHOULD THAT CHANGE?. HIS PERSONAL ITEMS CHANGED IN HIS PRIVATE LIFE. And no one told him. No one educated him on it. No one told him why it would be better. No one provided him with the tools to use it. He spent months learning this stuff, and one day he woke up and his effort was erased from the planet.

Keep up the good work.

We're all wondering why this stuff is all ok?

Why is it ok to take a virtual machete to someone else's hard work because someone wants a different color?

Henry Ford never went into that car you bought, and changed the location of the steering wheel or the pedals.

Thomas Edison never went into your house, and changed out the light switches for a new design or shape.

GE never went into any ones home and changed the plastic bezel on our tv's.

But all of a sudden, we have a tech world where the only constant, is change. Change of colors and buttons, which in most cases, the business world of making money, keeps saying is costing us, as a society, billions now, and its not generating revenue, its a loss and write off. The business world struggles to keep up with dynamic products, reeducating and relearning, because some digital exist in a logic vacuum.

Speaking of losses, even the general public sees little to no value in change that serves nothing but whimful designers. In fact, the majority of research indicates that the public would rather be able to makes their own style and design changes, instead of the dynamic, impossible to keep up with changes that have morphed into a false idea of progress in the computer world.

CHANGING COLORS AND BUTTONS AND FONTS IS KILLING THESE VERY SPECIAL PEOPLE INSIDE. AND IT ISN'T THEIR FAULT. ITS A DISABILITY

When can we expect Firefox to reach the reality that the public already knows?

This was also sent as an email, to mozilla press, via the web form. As of today, the recieving email address is unknown and hidden, because instead of posting a public address, mozilla uses a web form preventing a submitter from retaining a copy for themselves in most cases, in the form of sent mail. That in and of itself, at face value, appears to be intentional, a deceptive process of false engagement. Another disturbing fact in all this, is that more and more companies are hiding the who/what/where/why of their leadership.

As an individual, i am becoming more and more leery of companies and organizations that hide all forms of contacts and insist people use a forum, where they may or may not get a response, resulting in zero accountability in most cases. (When organizations ask for free public volunteers to be members and help the public, that amounts to social theft. Multiple countries on earth have outlawed this type of behavior, as it resembles an unpaid internship, resulting in free monetary maintenance value for profit oriented organizations, which I acknowledge firefox is not).

If an email submitter cant archive or even retain a sent email, because their point of contact was forcibly moved to an unaccountable web form, any organization can deny all existence of submissions, and thus wash their hands of all responsibility and plead ignorance.

If your organization truly advocates for a healthy internet as it virtue signals, then this letter would never have been necessary.

Every single person on earth, is trying to understand, for 25 years, why our lap top and computer screens are 14 to 20 inches wide, and when we send an email or forum submission to firefox, all the text exists inside a 2 inch by 2 inch window, with 10 inches of unused dead space surrounding the text field, complicating and making editing and fluid reading 100% impossible. We cant read 1 complete line at once, we have to scroll and scroll and scroll in order to read 1 SINGLE SENTENCE. And then you forget what you typed in the previous line because your eyes cant flit and read it in an instant, you have to grab a mouse and scroll, causing you to forget what you were trying to edit, making you go back and find the questionable entry all over again, repeating the process. Tiny text entry boxes are personal time thieves, requiring more effort and time to use. And then because the text box is so small, some people simply write in MS Word or a text document, and copy pasta it over, because you can see multiple lines and paragraphs simultaneously, simplifying and smoothing the editing and proof reading process, all because of a design fail that has been implemented globally as good because its something different than what to used to exist, when we all admit the functionality is a complete failure in all aspects.

Imagine that. Not using the firefox submission form makes life easier to contact firefox. WOW. What a paradox.

These are absolutely preposterous concepts, yet they have existed for 25 years and more. Everyone I know objects, and finds it ridiculous. Yet it persists.

We keep pushing people away and disengaging some, because the rest can cope or deal, or simply to choose assimilate because they feel 100% powerless to have a voice.

The new tab "button" hovers over the browser, and to my aspergers child, seems to be disconnected from the tab and in the wrong place. With no ability to fix, commence bay glass window shatter countdown.

$8000 repair bill in 10, 9, 8, 7, 6........

.....because layouts, colors, button placements and designs, are changed. And nobody asked for it.

• • • • Addendum: I have always set up my mouse to scroll 3 lines with a scroll. This letter, takes me 4 minutes to scroll through, even thought it is only 1 and a half pages. Because the text box is 2 inches wide.****

What a ridiculous waste of time, effort, energy, and my life. Thanks firefox. Thanks for not promoting a healthy and safe internet.

Saying I do not like the lack of lines separating the tabs is an understatement. I don't know why but it is driving me nuts and triggering my anxiety and I'm not someone that would normally say stuff like that but it is.

Is there a way to make the tabs look like they used to with clear black lines between each tab?!?

I just upgraded to the new release. There used to be a button with three dots toward the right side of the search/address bar. I used it to email a link to the current page. Two clicks and I'm editing the email. I don't see the button in this new release. How do I email a link to the current page? Ideally in one or two clicks.

For starters, stop making assumptions about how people prefer their spacing on menus and tabs. Both are, with the latest update, too effing large, resulting in less visible screen space and an excessive amount of scrolling to access bookmarks. Do you think everybody is blind?! I desperately want to go back to the spacing in the previous version of Firefox. Is there a way to do that without downgrading to v.88? Also, the change to the color scheme makes it a lot harder to quickly see which tab is active as there isn't enough contrast.

I stopped using Chrome except in emergencies because they kept taking away my options to make the browser comfortable to me. Mozilla is now doing the same thing and it really pisses me off. You say you are making things better and/or easier, but that is only your opinion. I know you can't please everybody but why take away the ability to make tabs and menus more compact so less space is wasted and scrolling doesn't take longer?

The best help would have been, to not make the satanic update from hell. Been with Firefox from PC day one. If something works fine leave it alone. If improvements are needed make sure they are improvements. This latest update has been made by an agent provocateur, with the help of a saboteur. Someone who hates Firefox & wishes its demise. I have spent hours trying to sort it & have made some improvements. It will never be like it was before that criminal update. Firefox R.I.P. gone but not forgotten. You will always have a place in my heart. Why they murdered you we may never know.

Hi! With the latest update to Firefox, the tab height is now taking up too much of my vertical screen space and the option to make them compact seems to be gone from where it used to be in the settings. I've tried to search for an extension to fix this, but haven't managed to find one. What do you all suggest I do?

(I don't want to use Chrome. It takes so much RAM that I can't really run both Chrome & Discord at the same time, let alone anything else with it.)

Thank you!

Why has my Firefox gone horrible? Toolbars heights have increased so there is less screen height for websites to use. Also line spacing of Firefox texts,eg bookmarks, have increased so no longer fit on 1 page. Help, how can I get a nice Firefox back?

I just started with 89.0 and instead of the horrid 15% of CPU that 88 used it now uses 30%. That's with an enormous amount of windows (not tabs) open, but most are limited by NoScript until I temp permit them. FX Task Manager shows very little usage, so apparently no ill behaved sites. AAR 30% of an i7 with many gigs of memory is intolerable. Even the 15% was heating up the CPU.

So I'll take "some" CPU heating vs. "massive" by rolling back to 88.0.1. By the way, whatever keeps changing my option from manually approved updates to automatic, thank you for doing that at times without asking me first.

The problem is that now when I start 88.0.1 it insists on a new profile "for my own protection". But I want the old profile, with hundreds of bookmarks and dozens or hundreds of session windows from my last session, and add-ins ... for example right how I don't have NoScript and don't have time to deal with that. I tried to get around the "we're just helping you" insistence on a new profile, by copying a week-old backup over C:\Users\Bill\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\hbouy3r1.default\sessionstore.jsonlz4 and starting but it still insists. I guess that's just sessions, not the whole profile.

Can I defeat the prohibition against using the old profile, or failing that, can I import or merge the old profile in? Keep in mind that the "old" profile has been modified by having started 89. I wish now that I had never selected the old profile when I began 89 (I always prompt for profile). (But, heck, I didn't even KNOW I was going to a new version. It auto-updated, and when I started FX, and it seems to have "updated" the old profile making it now unusable for a prior version).

Or can I go to a backup and copy the tree of C:\Users\Bill\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\OldProfile\ and start FX again with 88.0.1? BTW I assume that is the version I was on a week ago.

W7 HP 64B. After the recent v89 update I have to ask, "why" ? Why change to wire icons ? Why not give me that option instead of you forcing it ? Why make themes when they don't change to what I want ? Why make the margin at the top of the screen larger ? Why should I have to try and "about:config: , to change something back ? Why are you not aware of the people you are forcing to use Chrome ? Who are you taking "MY CHOICES" away ? Are you demonicrats ? Why should I continue to use FF, when you have no answers, just rhetoric ?

After an automatic update Firefox had a terrible surprise for me. A beyond ugly user interface. And NO WAY to fix this with a simple toggle switch back to classic mode. There are theme's available, but still it looks unusable to me. This kind of updates should be beyond Mozilla, maybe don't hire former Apple employees, the esthetics don't have to be " slick and modern"

So after a long fight with almost losing my plugins, saved tabs (100+) etc.. I downgraded successfully to 88.

Step 1 (Secure your profile) Open menu, Click Help, Click "More Troubleshooting Information" Go to the line which says, "Profile Folder" Hit open folder

Pay extra attention during these steps: Now you are browsing in your active profile. If you did this after upgrading to 89 version. Make a back-up copy of this whole folder!! Rename it back up.

Open the file "Compatibility.ini" with a text editor, and empty it. Save and close.

Download and install the previous version of Firefox, After installing don't forget to disable automatic updates.

If the profile isn't loaded, browse to "about:profiles" and find and select your profile to get al your plugins, tabs, favs, etc. back.

Its a terrible shame i need to write this down for people to avoid the frustration of a terrible update

As title says, this newest update makes Firefox looks so ugly, I can change appearance to previous version or at least make cards bar thinner because now it's twice the size than it was earlier.

This unbelievably atrocious new redesign (like, the [removed] were the Mozilla folks on? Cause even crackheads wouldn't put out some of the [removed] the Mozilla team things is fine) was the needle that broke the back here; you have successfully pushed another user away from Firefox as it grows ever [removed].

The latest version of Firefox wastes too much space at the top of the window. Stuff is spread out too much. Also the drop down menus from the items in the Bookmarks Toolbar appeared to be double spaced. I will use another browser until this is fixed.

Firefox 89 on my Raspberry Pi 4 is displaying what I'm guessing is a codec issue. Videos can be watched but the picture is corrupted by brightly coloured patches around areas of detail.

Prior to the version 89 upgrade, version 88 was working perfectly.

I have Firefox 89 on a Raspberry Pi and a PC. On the PC it still works perfectly, on the Pi video is displayed badly.

On the Pi Firefox 89 is running under Ubuntu 21.04. On the PC Firefox 89 is running under Ubuntu 18.04

Am I alone in this or have others seen the same issue ?

Assuming I am not alone, does anybody have any idea what has gone wrong ?