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I know where my emails for my three accounts are, but can't see them in Thunderbird anymore since downloading some gmails. Also my Thunderbird user interface changed some months ago and doesn't look like what I see online in instructions for doing things.

Always shows "Failed to check for updates" On version 125.0.3 and still says needs to be updated. Then just run the install again and then it stops for a bit still on same version and then shows up needing update...been doing the same thing for a while now.

I access a Gmail account with Thunderbird from browsers on differing machines. I also tried using Thunderbird itself to access the mail in Gmail.

So we have three different pieces here: A) Gmail account itself B) Thunderbird's view of the gmail account C) Thunderbird's local folders

What I was expecting was:

1) Thunderbird would pull copies of info on gmail (A) to Thunderbird's view of gmail account (B).

2) I would drag and drop folders or emails into the local folders (C) from Thunderbird's view of gmail account (B)

3) I would end up with gmail itself (A) having the email, Thunderbirds view of gmail account (B), and a copy in local folders (C).

You'll ask "Was it IMAP or SMTP/POP?". I entered the info in TB for the IMAP. There is SMTP information too that I see in TB. However, on gmail's settings on gmail itself says IMAP is disabled. POP is not disabled.

What I've got is confusion and things not where I expected.

1) I had Thunderbird pull info to its version of the gmail. 2) I dragged and dropped things (folders and emails) into local folders thinking I was making copies

Instead of what I expected, I ended up with:

Gmail account (A): All the tags somehow got pulled and the email is all sitting (I think maybe) in 'All Mail'. Not sure as there are hundreds of emails to look at an I think some things have been taken out of gmail.

Thunderbird's version of gmail account (B): Had a lot of email from gmail that had identical folders under the account in TB. Now those folders under TB's version of the email from gmail are empty.

Thunderbird's local folders (C): I think all the missing email from both gmail (A) and Thunderbird's version of the gmail account B) are now in local folders.

That's very much not the outcome I was looking for. I also was unclear was whether folders under the gmail account in Thunderbird were (in fact) local... the presence of the 'local folders' separately left me unsure.

I haven't used a mail client for personal use for a decade or more now. I use webmail (gmail). However, I wanted to do what I would have done in the old days - I wanted to pull down a copy of everything in gmail and save it (back when, it would have been as a .PST).

Mostly I was hoping for: I) Gmail mail is left on gmail. II) TB's version of the gmail account holds a copy of everything in gmail III) and I can backup, with a structure similar to gmail being preserved, a local repository (in whatever the right export format is these days) IV) If I'm in Thunderbird, I can send an email via gmail

I believe I can get every email that was messed up on gmail back there with some work. What I don't know is how to do what I want to do , as described immediately above. (Items I, II, III, and IV)

How can I do those things?

And are the folders under the gmail account representation in Thunderbird actually local? If so, why is there also local folders?