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Arial Fonts especially not well-displayed in Firefox although well applied in source. (IE, Chrome are well-displayed)

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Hello,

1. The Arial fonts were internally and originally existing in Avada. I didn’t use custom fonts files as your previous instruction.

2. If the fonts’ properties were such so, then it should be same as IE and Chrome, not only Firefox, but they are well seen in IE and Chrome, however, not in Firefox, so that’s why I’m not understood myself.

I acknowledge that your theme does properly apply the fonts to source code, but I think this is the problem of fonts operation itself, or Firefox Browser problem, so discussing about in Avada-inserted internal fonts files’ properties, and discussing about Firefox Browser’s problem would be a wise way to narrow down this issues.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/get-community-support

So could you tell me opinions or insights about them?

Thanks for your time and consideration.

Sincerely from,

Sukwoo Hong

From: Avada Support mailto:help@theme-fusion.com Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 3:08 PM To: Sukwoo <aeons0000@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: css code isn't applied at all or partially applied in perspective of fonts.

Rodrigo replied Jul 19, 2:07am Hello,

As I previously showed you, Avada currently assigns Arial to your headers correctly.

Once this is done, the appearance of the font will depend on the font file itself, and on the way in which the browser displays it.

So, in your case, this is just the way in which Arial displays korean characters.

I'm afraid that we cannot provide much insight regarding this issue, since this does not depend on Avada, but on the font itself.

From the theme's side, we can only ensure that the font is correctly applied in the source code of the website, as it's currently the case in your page.


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Sukwoo replied Jul 18, 7:15am Hello,


I understood from now that Avada theme without problem converted Arial fonts successfully to the source code of my website,

but the OS of mine and my desktop computer machine's properties would affect the actual display of the fonts.

I agree with you. However, I have tested these on the five different computers nearby my end, OS X, Windows, and so on,

Although so, the same issues simultaneously occurred in them, all 5 computers, So would the culprits of this issue be "the problem of machine" or "the problem of OS"? If so, just depending on machine like your end, the display of the fonts in Korean or Japanese is all-fine, and some of the machines in my end would be hard to properly display the Arial fonts, because of problem of the machine in my end? I'm wondering about it.


I tried to understand that only my one computer machine has problem and any other computers in other countries are fine, then no problem,

However, 5 computers all are getting same problem in my end, so that's why I'm confused although you professionally explained to me about web-safe fonts.


Thanks anyway for the kind explanation of web-fonts from you, and also, sorry for any inconvenience triggered by my misunderstanding or blindness about documents.

I'm just confused, so want to clarify, but not so easy according to me narrow-scope of knowledge.


Thanks for your time and consideration.


Sincerely from,


Sukwoo Hong


Rodrigo replied Jul 17, 5:30pm Hello,

As we previously explained, Arial is a web safe font. That means that the font file won't be implemented by the particular theme in your WP installation, but it will be retrieved from the OS fonts in the computer that visits the website.

That's why it's called a web-safe font. I can suggest to check out the guide about web-safe fonts again: http://www.coffeecup.com/help/articles/what-is-a-web-safe-font/

So, once the theme applies Arial in the source code, the browser will get the font file from the OS directory, and display it. Because of this, there's we cannot provide extensive help regarding this matter. Avada can only apply Arial in the source code of the website, which is currently the case, as you can see when you inspect the styles of the website.


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Sukwoo replied Jul 17, 12:08am Hello,


This problem has been continued for several months, so I should do something for this issues, very tired of trying something.


1. You said specific display of the font depends on the font's character map, but it's not the custom files I uploaded, but the fonts properties are with Avada-equipped, so there are nothing I can do myself, since as you know, customizing fonts properties which are inherited in Avada theme doesn't make sense.


2. I confirmed that in my end, the fonts are applied well in perspective of Inspector panel, however, the way it's displayed actually is totally different between your end and my end. If it is the browser's problem, then the fonts should be well-displayed in both your end and my end,

or the fonts should be not properly displayed in both your end and my end,

however, the fonts are differently displayed totally between in my desktops, and these are not the specific computer of mine, since I tested this on other computers in different places for 4 other desktops.


3. And I also tried to throw queries about this in other forums, but the answer was just ask to the theme developer, so alternatives, or other places to ask would be not well-informed to me, so that's why I'm getting difficulties these days, so could you help me as possible as you could? It could be not you or other people, or I should anyway solve this problem as fast as I could whether the advisors are theme-fusion supporters or developers or any person.


I would like to make thing to solve clear, since this discussion started to be long-winded.


Thanks for your time and consideration.


Sincerely from,


Sukwoo Hong


Sukwoo replied Jul 17, 12:06am Hello,


This problem has been continued for several months, so I should do something for this issues, very tired of trying something.


1. You said specific display of the font depends on the font's character map, but it's not the custom files I uploaded, but the fonts properties are with Avada-equipped, so there are nothing I can do myself, since as you know, customizing fonts properties which are inherited in Avada theme doesn't make sense.


2. I confirmed that in my end, the fonts are applied well in perspective of Inspector panel, however, the way it's displayed actually is totally different between your end and my end. If it is the browser's problem, then the fonts should be well-displayed in both your end and my end,

or the fonts should be not properly displayed in both your end and my end,

however, the fonts are differently displayed totally between in my desktops, and these are not the specific computer of mine, since I tested this on other computers in different places for 4 other desktops.


3. And I also tried to throw queries about this in other forums, but the answer was just ask to the theme developer, so alternatives, or other places to ask would be not well-informed to me, so that's why I'm getting difficulties these days, so could you help me as possible as you could? It could be not you or other people, or I should anyway solve this problem as fast as I could whether the advisors are theme-fusion supporters or developers or any person.


I would like to make thing to solve clear, since this discussion started to be long-winded.


Thanks for your time and consideration.


Sincerely from,


Sukwoo Hong


Rodrigo replied Jul 16, 11:40am Hello,

I attached a screenshot to this message. It was taken using Firefox, in Windows 10. As you can see in the styles applied to the element, Arial is currently assigned as the font of the title.

The way in which the font is displayed depends on the browser itself, and not on Avada. Avada will only be in charge of setting Arial as the font-family, which is correctly applied, as you can see in the screenshot.

The specific display of the font will depend on the font's character map, as well as on the browser in which it's displayed.

Unfortunately, there's not much help we can offer regarding this issue, since Avada currently applies Arial correctly in the source code of your page.


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Hello, 1. The Arial fonts were internally and originally existing in Avada. I didn’t use custom fonts files as your previous instruction. 2. If the fonts’ properties were such so, then it should be same as IE and Chrome, not only Firefox, but they are well seen in IE and Chrome, however, not in Firefox, so that’s why I’m not understood myself. I acknowledge that your theme does properly apply the fonts to source code, but I think this is the problem of fonts operation itself, or Firefox Browser problem, so discussing about in Avada-inserted internal fonts files’ properties, and discussing about Firefox Browser’s problem would be a wise way to narrow down this issues. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/get-community-support So could you tell me opinions or insights about them? Thanks for your time and consideration. Sincerely from, Sukwoo Hong From: Avada Support [mailto:help@theme-fusion.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 3:08 PM To: Sukwoo <aeons0000@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: css code isn't applied at all or partially applied in perspective of fonts. Rodrigo replied Jul 19, 2:07am Hello, As I previously showed you, Avada currently assigns Arial to your headers correctly. Once this is done, the appearance of the font will depend on the font file itself, and on the way in which the browser displays it. So, in your case, this is just the way in which Arial displays korean characters. I'm afraid that we cannot provide much insight regarding this issue, since this does not depend on Avada, but on the font itself. From the theme's side, we can only ensure that the font is correctly applied in the source code of the website, as it's currently the case in your page. How would you rate my reply? Great Okay Not Good --- Rodrigo ThemeFusion Team STAY IN TOUCH ABOUT ALL NEWS / UPDATES / PRODUCTS Subscribe To Our Newsletter | Follow Us On Twitter | Like Our Facebook Page Join The Avada Users Facebook Group | Join The Fusion Builder Users Facebook Group Visit Our Support Center To Search For Answers. Always Submit A New Ticket For New Questions. Sukwoo replied Jul 18, 7:15am Hello, I understood from now that Avada theme without problem converted Arial fonts successfully to the source code of my website, but the OS of mine and my desktop computer machine's properties would affect the actual display of the fonts. I agree with you. However, I have tested these on the five different computers nearby my end, OS X, Windows, and so on, Although so, the same issues simultaneously occurred in them, all 5 computers, So would the culprits of this issue be "the problem of machine" or "the problem of OS"? If so, just depending on machine like your end, the display of the fonts in Korean or Japanese is all-fine, and some of the machines in my end would be hard to properly display the Arial fonts, because of problem of the machine in my end? I'm wondering about it. I tried to understand that only my one computer machine has problem and any other computers in other countries are fine, then no problem, However, 5 computers all are getting same problem in my end, so that's why I'm confused although you professionally explained to me about web-safe fonts. Thanks anyway for the kind explanation of web-fonts from you, and also, sorry for any inconvenience triggered by my misunderstanding or blindness about documents. I'm just confused, so want to clarify, but not so easy according to me narrow-scope of knowledge. Thanks for your time and consideration. Sincerely from, Sukwoo Hong Rodrigo replied Jul 17, 5:30pm Hello, As we previously explained, Arial is a web safe font. That means that the font file won't be implemented by the particular theme in your WP installation, but it will be retrieved from the OS fonts in the computer that visits the website. That's why it's called a web-safe font. I can suggest to check out the guide about web-safe fonts again: http://www.coffeecup.com/help/articles/what-is-a-web-safe-font/ So, once the theme applies Arial in the source code, the browser will get the font file from the OS directory, and display it. Because of this, there's we cannot provide extensive help regarding this matter. Avada can only apply Arial in the source code of the website, which is currently the case, as you can see when you inspect the styles of the website. --- Rodrigo ThemeFusion Team STAY IN TOUCH ABOUT ALL NEWS / UPDATES / PRODUCTS Subscribe To Our Newsletter | Follow Us On Twitter | Like Our Facebook Page Join The Avada Users Facebook Group | Join The Fusion Builder Users Facebook Group Visit Our Support Center To Search For Answers. Always Submit A New Ticket For New Questions. Sukwoo replied Jul 17, 12:08am Hello, This problem has been continued for several months, so I should do something for this issues, very tired of trying something. 1. You said specific display of the font depends on the font's character map, but it's not the custom files I uploaded, but the fonts properties are with Avada-equipped, so there are nothing I can do myself, since as you know, customizing fonts properties which are inherited in Avada theme doesn't make sense. 2. I confirmed that in my end, the fonts are applied well in perspective of Inspector panel, however, the way it's displayed actually is totally different between your end and my end. If it is the browser's problem, then the fonts should be well-displayed in both your end and my end, or the fonts should be not properly displayed in both your end and my end, however, the fonts are differently displayed totally between in my desktops, and these are not the specific computer of mine, since I tested this on other computers in different places for 4 other desktops. 3. And I also tried to throw queries about this in other forums, but the answer was just ask to the theme developer, so alternatives, or other places to ask would be not well-informed to me, so that's why I'm getting difficulties these days, so could you help me as possible as you could? It could be not you or other people, or I should anyway solve this problem as fast as I could whether the advisors are theme-fusion supporters or developers or any person. I would like to make thing to solve clear, since this discussion started to be long-winded. Thanks for your time and consideration. Sincerely from, Sukwoo Hong Sukwoo replied Jul 17, 12:06am Hello, This problem has been continued for several months, so I should do something for this issues, very tired of trying something. 1. You said specific display of the font depends on the font's character map, but it's not the custom files I uploaded, but the fonts properties are with Avada-equipped, so there are nothing I can do myself, since as you know, customizing fonts properties which are inherited in Avada theme doesn't make sense. 2. I confirmed that in my end, the fonts are applied well in perspective of Inspector panel, however, the way it's displayed actually is totally different between your end and my end. If it is the browser's problem, then the fonts should be well-displayed in both your end and my end, or the fonts should be not properly displayed in both your end and my end, however, the fonts are differently displayed totally between in my desktops, and these are not the specific computer of mine, since I tested this on other computers in different places for 4 other desktops. 3. And I also tried to throw queries about this in other forums, but the answer was just ask to the theme developer, so alternatives, or other places to ask would be not well-informed to me, so that's why I'm getting difficulties these days, so could you help me as possible as you could? It could be not you or other people, or I should anyway solve this problem as fast as I could whether the advisors are theme-fusion supporters or developers or any person. I would like to make thing to solve clear, since this discussion started to be long-winded. Thanks for your time and consideration. Sincerely from, Sukwoo Hong Rodrigo replied Jul 16, 11:40am Hello, I attached a screenshot to this message. It was taken using Firefox, in Windows 10. As you can see in the styles applied to the element, Arial is currently assigned as the font of the title. The way in which the font is displayed depends on the browser itself, and not on Avada. Avada will only be in charge of setting Arial as the font-family, which is correctly applied, as you can see in the screenshot. The specific display of the font will depend on the font's character map, as well as on the browser in which it's displayed. Unfortunately, there's not much help we can offer regarding this issue, since Avada currently applies Arial correctly in the source code of your page. --- Rodrigo ThemeFusion Team STAY IN TOUCH ABOUT ALL NEWS / UPDATES / PRODUCTS Subscribe To Our Newsletter | Follow Us On Twitter | Like Our Facebook Page Join The Avada Users Facebook Group | Join The Fusion Builder Users Facebook Group Visit Our Support Center To Search For Answers. Always Submit A New Ticket For New Questions. {#HS:376349548-165462#} This email has been limited to the 6 most recent threads.
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In order for you to apply your preferred font, you either need to edit the existing style rules, which would be best, or override them by apply a more specific or more important rule, which is complicated and requires a lot of experimentation.

Editing Method

Find the appropriate place to edit your template styles.

Override Method

Start with this custom rule and, if it does not work on certain pages, use the Inspector to determine what rule is more specific and therefore Firefox is applying instead of your custom rule, and use that selector.

For example, let's say you start with this general rule (designed to apply only to pages your CMS indicates to Firefox are in the Korean language):

html[lang="ko"] h1, html[lang="ko"] h2, html[lang="ko"] h3, 
html[lang="ko"] h4, html[lang="ko"] h5, html[lang="ko"] h6, 
html[lang="ko"] content, html[lang="ko"] p, html[lang="ko"] span,
html[lang="ko"] th, html[lang="ko"] td, html[lang="ko"] button { 
  font-family: Arial, Helvetica, "Malgun Gothic", "Arial Unicode MS", sans-serif !important; 
} 

You insert that however your template/CMS allows and make sure it is in the page that is delivered to the browser.

Does it work? If there is an element that does not change style, use Firefox's Inspector feature to check the style rules being applied to that element. Then you can adapt your rule to override it by mimicking its more specific selectors.

In order for you to apply your preferred font, you either need to '''edit''' the existing style rules, which would be best, or '''override''' them by apply a more specific or more important rule, which is complicated and requires a lot of experimentation. '''Editing Method''' Find the appropriate place to edit your template styles. '''Override Method''' Start with this custom rule and, if it does not work on certain pages, use the Inspector to determine what rule is more specific and therefore Firefox is applying instead of your custom rule, and use that selector. For example, let's say you start with this general rule (designed to apply only to pages your CMS indicates to Firefox are in the Korean language): html[lang="ko"] h1, html[lang="ko"] h2, html[lang="ko"] h3, html[lang="ko"] h4, html[lang="ko"] h5, html[lang="ko"] h6, html[lang="ko"] content, html[lang="ko"] p, html[lang="ko"] span, html[lang="ko"] th, html[lang="ko"] td, html[lang="ko"] button { font-family: Arial, Helvetica, "Malgun Gothic", "Arial Unicode MS", sans-serif !important; } You insert that however your template/CMS allows and make sure it is in the page that is delivered to the browser. Does it work? If there is an element that does not change style, use Firefox's Inspector feature to check the style rules being applied to that element. Then you can adapt your rule to override it by mimicking its more specific selectors.

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