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why e10s feature makes FF performance slower?

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my english is bad, so i write by my language persian: man ghablana fekr mikardam vijegi e e10s(multi-process) sor@e firefox ro baraye pc man ke cpu 2 haste'ei hast, 2 barabar mikone. amma chand roozie ke e10s ro rooye firefoxam force enable kardam, va niz rooye versionhaye Nightly va Developer, mibinam ke sor@e baz kardane siteha ba 2 sanie takhir ast. hamchenin sor@e render shodan va namayeshe pagehaye sitehaye mokhtalef kheili kondtar shode torike man ba scrolldown kardane safahat mibinam ke bejaye az ghabl amade boodan dare hamzaman ba paeen bala shodane safhe, mohtava render mishe. shayad in be khatere ine ke masrafe RAM va CPU kamtar beshe. amma............... vaghean developerhaye firefox daran kare varoone'ei anjam midan. ma mikhaym sor@ va performance firefox bere balaa. hatta age be gheimate estefade bishtar az RAM va CPU bashe. bavar konid chand roozie ke asabam az daste firefox khorde. namidoonam chikar konam. ehtemale kooch kardan be Chrome ziad shode. lotfan pasokh bedid.

my english is bad, so i write by my language persian: man ghablana fekr mikardam vijegi e e10s(multi-process) sor@e firefox ro baraye pc man ke cpu 2 haste'ei hast, 2 barabar mikone. amma chand roozie ke e10s ro rooye firefoxam force enable kardam, va niz rooye versionhaye Nightly va Developer, mibinam ke sor@e baz kardane siteha ba 2 sanie takhir ast. hamchenin sor@e render shodan va namayeshe pagehaye sitehaye mokhtalef kheili kondtar shode torike man ba scrolldown kardane safahat mibinam ke bejaye az ghabl amade boodan dare hamzaman ba paeen bala shodane safhe, mohtava render mishe. shayad in be khatere ine ke masrafe RAM va CPU kamtar beshe. amma............... vaghean developerhaye firefox daran kare varoone'ei anjam midan. ma mikhaym sor@ va performance firefox bere balaa. hatta age be gheimate estefade bishtar az RAM va CPU bashe. bavar konid chand roozie ke asabam az daste firefox khorde. namidoonam chikar konam. ehtemale kooch kardan be Chrome ziad shode. lotfan pasokh bedid.

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Maybe it is a good idea to delete prefs.js to reset all preferences because you appear to still have prefs from older Firefox versions showing. The list isn't complete, so I don't know if there is a user.js file present.

You can delete possible user.js and numbered prefs-##.js files and rename/remove the prefs.js file to reset all prefs to the default value including prefs set via user.js and prefs that are no longer supported in current Firefox releases.

You can use this button to go to the current Firefox profile folder:

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hi saad, i think the chance for us to understand and answer your question is higher when you write it in bad english than good farsi :-)

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i expect e10s to make firefox faster. my pc cpu is dual core. so performance of launching and page rendering should be 2x faster when e10s is enabled. but it is inverse. open website with 2 seconds delay. and render pages simultaneous scrolling down. i want than firefox to use more RAM and CPU, but launch and browse faster. i'm angryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.

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could you go to the firefox menu ≡ > help ? > troubleshooting information, copy the contents of that page and paste them here into a reply on the forum? this might give us a clue what is going on...

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philipp said

could you go to the firefox menu ≡ > help ? > troubleshooting information, copy the contents of that page and paste them here into a reply on the forum? this might give us a clue what is going on...

but i test Developer & Nightly with seperate empty addon profile too.

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Troubleshooting Information This page contains technical information that might be useful when you're trying to solve a problem. If you are looking for answers to common questions about Firefox, check out our support website. Application Basics Name Firefox Version 47.0b9 Build ID 20160526140250 Update History Update Channel beta User Agent Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:47.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/47.0 OS Windows_NT 10.0 x86-64 Profile Folder Enabled Plugins about:plugins Build Configuration about:buildconfig Memory Use about:memory Registered Service Workers about:serviceworkers Multiprocess Windows 1/1 (Enabled by user) Safe Mode false Profiles about:profiles Crash Reports for the Last 3 Days Report ID Submitted bp-f38b9978-92ca-4259-8f25-616cc2160529 5 hours ago

All Crash Reports (including 1 pending crash in the given time range) Extensions Name Version Enabled ID Fasterfox 3.9.85.1-signed.1-signed true {c36177c0-224a-11da-8cd6-0800200c9a91} Firefox Hello 1.3.2 true loop@mozilla.org Ghostery 6.2.0 true firefox@ghostery.com Google Translator for Firefox 2.1.0.5.1.1-signed true translator@zoli.bod IDM integration 6.25.16 true mozilla_cc2@internetdownloadmanager.com IP Address and Domain Information 2.0.4 true jid0-jJRRRBMgoShUhb07IvnxTBAl29w@jetpack Mozilla Archive Format 4.0rc1 true {7f57cf46-4467-4c2d-adfa-0cba7c507e54} Multi Web Search 2.21 true s3multiweb@search Multi-process staged rollout 1.0 true e10srollout@mozilla.org NativeShot 1.8 true NativeShot@jetpack NoScript 2.9.0.11 true {73a6fe31-595d-460b-a920-fcc0f8843232} Pocket 1.0.2 true firefox@getpocket.com Restart 1.2.8 true Restart@schuzak.jp Strict Pop-up Blocker 0.2.1-signed.1-signed true jid1-P34HaABBBpOerQ@jetpack Test Pilot 0.6.1-tag-2016-05-24 true @testpilot-addon Textarea Cache 0.9.3.4 true {578e7caa-210f-4967-a0d3-88fe5b59a39f} The Addon Bar (restored) 3.2.9-compat-fixed-4 true the-addon-bar@GeekInTraining-GiT uBlock Origin 1.7.0 true uBlock0@raymondhill.net Wappalyzer 3.2.2 true wappalyzer@crunchlabz.com X-notifier 3.5.21 true {37fa1426-b82d-11db-8314-0800200c9a66} YouTube Unblocker Plus 1.2.3 true addon@ytunblocker.com Easy Screenshot 1.2.7.2 false easyscreenshot@mozillaonline.com Firebug 2.0.16 false firebug@software.joehewitt.com Graphics Adapter Description NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS Adapter Drivers nvd3dumx,nvwgf2umx,nvwgf2umx nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um Adapter RAM 256 Asynchronous Pan/Zoom wheel input enabled Device ID 0x0422 DirectWrite Enabled false (10.0.10586.0) Driver Date 1-29-2016 Driver Version 9.18.13.4195 GPU #2 Active false GPU Accelerated Windows 0/1 Basic (OMTC) Subsys ID 052310de Supports Hardware H264 Decoding No; Hardware video decoding disabled or blacklisted Vendor ID 0x10de WebGL Renderer Google Inc. -- ANGLE (NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS Direct3D9Ex vs_3_0 ps_3_0) windowLayerManagerRemote true AzureCanvasAccelerated 0 AzureCanvasBackend skia AzureContentBackend cairo AzureFallbackCanvasBackend cairo Important Modified Preferences Name Value accessibility.typeaheadfind true accessibility.typeaheadfind.flashBar 0 browser.cache.disk.capacity 358400 browser.cache.disk.filesystem_reported 1 browser.cache.disk.hashstats_reported 1 browser.cache.disk.smart_size_cached_value 358400 browser.cache.disk.smart_size.first_run false browser.cache.disk.smart_size.use_old_max false browser.cache.frecency_experiment 1 browser.cache.memory.capacity 65536 browser.display.show_image_placeholders true browser.download.importedFromSqlite true browser.fixup.alternate.enabled false browser.fixup.domainwhitelist.xn--mgbug5fm true browser.places.smartBookmarksVersion 8 browser.search.useDBForOrder true browser.sessionstore.upgradeBackup.latestBuildID 20160526140250 browser.startup.homepage about:newtab browser.startup.homepage_override.buildID 20160120154102 browser.startup.homepage_override.mstone ignore browser.tabs.closeWindowWithLastTab false browser.tabs.remote false browser.tabs.remote.autostart true browser.tabs.remote.force-enable true browser.urlbar.autocomplete.enabled true browser.urlbar.autofill true browser.urlbar.suggest.searches true browser.urlbar.userMadeSearchSuggestionsChoice true dom.allow_scripts_to_close_windows true dom.apps.reset-permissions true dom.ipc.processCount 2 dom.max_chrome_script_run_time 0 dom.max_script_run_time 40 dom.mozApps.used true dom.popup_allowed_events dom.push.userAgentID 5583a28a95a74c07b4c2845d7fe6a7d3 extensions.lastAppVersion 47.0 font.internaluseonly.changed false general.useragent.extra.microsoftdotnet (.NET4.0C; .NET4.0E; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; .NET CLR 3.5.30729) gfx.crash-guard.d3d11layers.appVersion 47.0 gfx.crash-guard.d3d11layers.deviceID 0x0422 gfx.crash-guard.d3d11layers.driverVersion 9.18.13.4195 gfx.crash-guard.d3d11layers.feature-d2d true gfx.crash-guard.d3d11layers.feature-d3d11 true gfx.crash-guard.glcontext.appVersion 46.0 gfx.crash-guard.glcontext.deviceID 0x0422 gfx.crash-guard.glcontext.driverVersion 9.18.13.4192 gfx.crash-guard.glcontext.gfx.driver-init.direct3d11-angle true gfx.crash-guard.glcontext.gfx.driver-init.webgl-angle true gfx.crash-guard.glcontext.gfx.driver-init.webgl-angle-force-d3d11 false gfx.crash-guard.glcontext.gfx.driver-init.webgl-angle-force-warp false gfx.crash-guard.glcontext.gfx.driver-init.webgl-angle-try-d3d11 true gfx.crash-guard.status.d3d11layers 2 gfx.crash-guard.status.glcontext 2 gfx.direct2d.disabled true gfx.direct3d.last_used_feature_level_idx 1 gfx.driver-init.appVersion 41.0.2 gfx.driver-init.deviceID 0x0422 gfx.driver-init.driverVersion 9.18.13.4181 gfx.driver-init.feature-d2d false gfx.driver-init.feature-d3d11 true gfx.driver-init.status 2 layers.acceleration.disabled true media.autoplay.enabled false media.gmp-eme-adobe.abi x86_64-msvc-x64 media.gmp-eme-adobe.lastUpdate 1457611774 media.gmp-eme-adobe.version 17 media.gmp-gmpopenh264.abi x86_64-msvc-x64 media.gmp-gmpopenh264.lastUpdate 1457527029 media.gmp-gmpopenh264.path C:\Users\Saad\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\e50shvmy.default\gmp-gmpopenh264 media.gmp-gmpopenh264.version 1.5.3 media.gmp-manager.buildID 20160526140250 media.gmp-manager.lastCheck 1464526004 media.gmp-widevinecdm.abi x86_64-msvc-x64 media.gmp-widevinecdm.lastUpdate 1461642382 media.gmp-widevinecdm.version 1.4.8.866 media.gmp.storage.version.observed 1 media.hardware-video-decoding.failed false media.mediasource.ignore_codecs true media.peerconnection.video.h264_enabled true media.webrtc.debug.aec_log_dir C:\Users\saads\AppData\Local\Temp/ media.webrtc.debug.log_file C:\Users\saads\AppData\Local\Temp/WebRTC.log network.cookie.prefsMigrated true network.http.max-connections 48 network.http.max-connections-per-server 16 network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-proxy 16 network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server 8 network.http.pipelining.maxrequests 8 network.http.request.max-start-delay 0 network.http.speculative-parallel-limit 0 network.predictor.cleaned-up true network.prefetch-next false places.database.lastMaintenance 1464365231 places.history.expiration.transient_current_max_pages 104858 plugin.disable_full_page_plugin_for_types application/pdf plugin.expose_full_path true plugin.importedState true plugin.state.anti_banner_native_proxy 2 plugin.state.flash 1 plugin.state.npcontentblocker 2 plugin.state.npdgnria 0 plugin.state.npeagleget 2 plugin.state.npeagleget64 2 plugin.state.nponlinebanking 2 plugin.state.npqtplugin 0 plugin.state.npvkplugin 2 plugin.state.url_advisor 2 print.printer_Foxit_Reader_PDF_Printer.print_bgcolor false print.printer_Foxit_Reader_PDF_Printer.print_bgimages false print.printer_Foxit_Reader_PDF_Printer.print_colorspace print.printer_Foxit_Reader_PDF_Printer.print_command print.printer_Foxit_Reader_PDF_Printer.print_downloadfonts false print.printer_Foxit_Reader_PDF_Printer.print_duplex 1515870810 print.printer_Foxit_Reader_PDF_Printer.print_edge_bottom 0 print.printer_Foxit_Reader_PDF_Printer.print_edge_left 0 print.printer_Foxit_Reader_PDF_Printer.print_edge_right 0 print.printer_Foxit_Reader_PDF_Printer.print_edge_top 0 print.printer_Foxit_Reader_PDF_Printer.print_evenpages true print.printer_Foxit_Reader_PDF_Printer.print_footercenter print.printer_Foxit_Reader_PDF_Printer.print_footerleft &PT print.printer_Foxit_Reader_PDF_Printer.print_footerright &D print.printer_Foxit_Reader_PDF_Printer.print_headercenter print.printer_Foxit_Reader_PDF_Printer.print_headerleft &T print.printer_Foxit_Reader_PDF_Printer.print_headerright &U print.printer_Foxit_Reader_PDF_Printer.print_in_color true

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any difference when you enable hardware acceleration?

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now i tested last developer version. it is better.

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philipp said

any difference when you enable hardware acceleration?

no difference.

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Saad Shamsaee said

now i tested last developer version. it is better.

wow... last version of Developer ed has fixed delay and delay render problems.

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sorry... when addons are installed, e10s in firefox goes bad. i repeat again. The firefox's e10s system is bad.


Firefox at start was very good. but continues bad. now, the more of improvement of Firefox is emulate Chrome. i don't like to abandon Firefox. please make committee to get more top developers for Firefox. mozilla, please focus more on Firefox.

Modified by Saad Shamsaee

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I have a suggestion for Mozilla Firefox team. Go back and start developing a new browser (new Firefox) from zero with "blink" HTML engine, like Chrome and Opera. we will wait.

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i refresh Firefox and reset my preferences to default. now 2 seconds delay is fewer. about 1 second, and this is due to add-ons. but in blank and no-extensions profile, 1 core opens a bit faster than multicore(e10s enable). do you want to screen-capture and show in video?

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it is known that addons which aren't ready for e10s yet might lead to worse performance. that's why e10s will only ship to users who don't have addons in the first phase (&later on to users with compatible addons only).

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Chosen Solution

Maybe it is a good idea to delete prefs.js to reset all preferences because you appear to still have prefs from older Firefox versions showing. The list isn't complete, so I don't know if there is a user.js file present.

You can delete possible user.js and numbered prefs-##.js files and rename/remove the prefs.js file to reset all prefs to the default value including prefs set via user.js and prefs that are no longer supported in current Firefox releases.

You can use this button to go to the current Firefox profile folder: