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I have many, MANY issues with LLMs, but a lot of them come down to this: I don't want my computer doing things that can't be fully tracked down in logs.

LLMs and other "ai" aren't traceable, and their outputs aren't truly repeatable: their information comes from loose associative heuristics that don't follow any kind of human logic, and they are inherently prone to erroneous data. Even if there was an ai that was right 99% of the time (which is currently impossible, with all existing models being at MOST 50% accurate), I wouldn't want to use it if it couldn't show me exactly where its information came from, without errors and without hallucinations, every time.

There's enough misinformation on the internet as it is. I don't want my browser, the vehicle I use to navigate information, adding more.

In addition, I don't really want my bank account information stolen when I read a Reddit post, thanks.

I am an IT proofessional in a large city. As such, I make sure people have Firefox installed and use it. I tell everyone that it is the best browser with the highest security and it's not beholden to corporate BS.

I want to let you know that if you shoehorn AI into Firefox, I will uninstall it from every computer in the city. Artificial Intelligence as it is now is a security risk, a HUGE waste of energy, and also wrong somewhere around 50% of the time. I already have to disable and uninstall microsoft AI crap because it eats resources like fire burning through a forest. Why is this what you want Firefox to become?

You are shooting yourselves in the foot with this. I don't care how much money you've invested on its development, drop it now. You're already the browser with the absolute smallest market share in the industry. Why would you ensure that NO ONE uses the one thing you actually do? Or do you think going AI-first will somehow push you ahead in the game?

Read the room, man. No end user wants AI. The only reason it's used at all is because it is in EVERYTHING. No one can get away from it. People use it by accident and corporate bigwigs call that a win. And it really is crammed into everything, too. At least once a week I have to find some new little AI toy to disable so someone's computer doesn't tell them to jump off a bridge or something.

I am pleading with you to stop.

You really don't need to answer this thread. There's just no way to privately send a message to Firefox for someone to read. I hope you pass this along.

I use Firefox and recommend it to others entirely because it's proven to be one of the browsers with the least privacy concerns and bloat. Mozilla's recent intention to make Firefox a "modern AI browser" and riddle it with unwanted software additions ruins everything users love about the browser. If this AI integration moves forward, I'll be switching from Firefox to another browser.

Firefox is already a product that works and is probably the best alternative to any of the other major browsers out there. It's a product that I've been happy to use for many, many years. So why is it being ruined by this needless push to add in "AI"? I don't want it. I don't want any part of it to touch my experience using this browser. I want either an easy way to completely turn it off so it can't suck up my data and expose my private information, or not have it be included at all. I will actively be looking for alternative browsers if these plans continue.

In light of the new CEO's stance on AI, I am STRONGLY considering leaving Firefox for a different browser. AI is inherently anti-privacy, anti-security, and against everything I stand for. I sincerely hope that Firefox backtracks on this pro-AI decision, as I want nothing to do with anyone who supports slop like that

I am looking for confirmation that Mozilla is moving to an 'AI browser'.

Will there be an option to not use this data harvesting LLM garbage or will mozilla be abandoning their core values?

Since the new CEO of Firefox seems to be very determined to add more AI features to the browser that I've been using (among other things) specifically to escape AI slop, I will be considering switching to another browser. It will be disheartening to abandon the browser I've been using for years, but I value my personal data (and cpu) too much to let an AI handle it. I appreciated his words that it would be "Completely opt-in, you have full control, and if you try it and find it’s not for you, you can choose to switch it off", but I strongly believe that all AI browsers are inherently insecure. The first AI feature that I can't make completely disappear forever with one click will be my sign to switch browsers. Hopefully, Firefox re-thinks its approach and decides not to destroy the exact thing that makes it so valuable - the commitment to protect the users' privacy.

I'm sick of AI infecting everything. I JUST started moving to firefox to escape the shoving down my throat of AI and ADs that plagues everything. And now to hear that the new CEO wants to shove down even more AI? That's infuriating. No one really wants this, the people that do have something to gain, ulterior motives or don't understand just how bad it is. Not to mention the data scraping that I don't consent to.

I've seen that this browser has potential, that has a relative ease of access for people to get the experience they want. But this AI shoving is ruining that, and it's driving users away. I do not like having to jump through hoops to avoid AI but I will. It's slowing down the browser and causing even more lack of privacy! We already have so little in this modern area, it's terrible to do more.

The sad part is, is that I know there are people that run the browser that don't want this. It's the people up top who put their money into AI, thinking it's the next big thing, and are trying to make it that so their money doesn't just get yanked away. When it will anyway. AI, generative specifically, is awful. I hate the AI overviews, I hate AI 'support' in everything. In social media, in online shopping, in just damn chats. I refuse to use it. It's horrible, it's nothing but bloatware.

So I hope that this new guy will actually listen to the people that use the browser and stop it with his stupid AI stuff. There is NO room for AI browsers, there never will be room for them. And I will NEVER trust an AI browser or whatever stuff an AI pulls up, because they will pull up nonsense. They will pull up what you WANT to hear, not the actual facts. Do better, this is a disappointment.

I have been unable to find an email address, so I am turning to this forum to express my disgust at the incoming CEO's comments, namely "Firefox will remain our anchor. It will evolve into a modern AI browser and support a portfolio of new and trusted software additions."

Firefox's appeal as an alternative to Edge, Chrome, etc. is its respect for user privacy and control. Adopting AI tools into the browser itself is a betrayal of that respect, and will eliminate Firefox's advantages over rival browsers. If users want an AI browser, they already have that option. They want, instead, a browser that allows then to control their own experience and data. I beg the Mozilla foundation to actually do some research into your own market so you will learn that people hate LLM slop in their internet browsing.

Adopting AI tools will damage Mozilla's reputation as an organization worthy of respect. What's more, it will contribute to the further erosion of trust in information on the internet that AI has caused, because *LLMs lie and steal*. This is more than just a market mistake, this is an ethical mistake.

There is still time to change course. Do not follow Chrome and Edge into AI delusion.

I did not ask for to have intrusive AI slop put in our browsers.

I literally switched over to Firefox for very specific reasons. I stopped using other browsers, such as chrome and other chromium based browsers, because they eventually got filled with AI bloatware slop that didn't really add anything to how we use the internet browsers

Firefox literally had something going on that stood out from rest of the market, and now you're willing enough to throw it all away for short-term gains to be made off the AI bubble? Firefox could've been the market leader in having a simple browser with no AI slop or general bloat added.

Not to mention the fact that AI is just straight up invasive as its basically just thinly veiled attempt to get more sensitive data harvested off users, to produce more money without paying compensation for the time used on the browser. In addition to opening up vectors for identity theft and fraud.

Once again, why is it absolutely necessary to have AI in the browser?

I hope this goes somewhere, like a representative email or something. But I use firefox because it's user and cpu friendly, and it isn't spying on me like Google. I can disable so many analytics and have privacy extensions. Re: your new CEO's intro article, I find it infringing upon my privacy to force AI features on my browser like this. Your primary userbase does not want this.

I am really frustrated by the additional AI features coming to Firefox soon. How can I ensure I will be notified as those features are rolled out, and how can I turn them off for my personal browser? To clarify, I don’t want any of my data, activity, or history to be accessible by any AI, and I don’t want to interact with any AI when I use Firefox.

It is a million times easier to avoid AI on browsers that simply do not use it, or that make it a fully opt-in feature, than to use an AI browser and then need to opt out.

I have been a fan and user of firefox for many years and recommended it to many others, but if it becomes an opt-out AI browser I and many others will be leaving.

This is not only frustrating to the users who need to move, but an unfortunate step backwards for the browser that has garnered a good reputation and dedicated userbase.

How can we stop firefox from adding AI features, or at the very least make them Opt-in?

I want it known that as soon as any AI foolishness that you can't opt out of is added to FireFox, I'm dropping it for a new browser and telling my family/friends to do the same. I'm very disappointed and thought FireFox would stay the best of the best, it's awful to be proven wrong in this respect.

I am incredibly concerned and disappointed over the announcement of the intention to turn Firefox into an AI browser. I use Firefox primarily for privacy concerns, and the already existing AI "features" that it has are pushing my boundaries already. The addition of more AI into this browser will slow it down, deplete natural resources, and ultimately push me away from it. I've been using Firefox happily for over 15 years now, don't ruin the good thing we have here.

AI is trash that doesn't do what it's being touted as capable of doing, and I'm sick of having it shoved in my face. Don't flush decades of good will down the toilet for no reason.

I don't know who thought it was a good idea to put someone who is pro-AI in charge of the anti-AI browser. I'm on Firefox because it doesn't use AI. You want to add in the most foolish, expensive, environmentally destructive, money sink that none of the userbase wants? Fine. I don't have brand loyalty. You choose personal wealth over the health of our environment and community by shoveling AI stupidity at us, I will drop this browser like a lead weight and switch to the lesser known browsers. I hear Waterfox hasn't bought into the slop yet. Might be time to change over to a more mindful system.

I do not need or want AI. The vast majority of firefox users, many of whom transferred to get away from AI, would agree. What for, anyway? To name tab groups? How is that worth spiking the use of my CPU and power? I switched to firefox *years* ago for one reason: it runs much better than chrome and it was committed to privacy and such. I know there are options to turn off these and the other AI features but with the CEO's desire to make firefox a "modern AI browser" I fear it will only get worse. How long will it stay optional? I might as well leave now and get used to waterfox, before firefox becomes utterly enshittified and unusable.