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The I-do-not-like-Firefox-29-layout topic

(For Forum Moderators: Please read /forums/forum-moderators/710264?last=59300) Moderators, please read first before closing/removing this topic right away? To those want… (read more)

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Moderators, please read first before closing/removing this topic right away?
To those wanting to react here on this topic: please, also read ;)
Since my original posting https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/997009 was closed because one of the moderators felt it was going off-topic (although it was red a lot and had 131 "have-this-problem" in just a few days), here a kind of re-opening but on-topic.
Why? Because I feel we have the right to express our feelings on this major change. And publicly there is actually only this forum where that can be done on the Mozilla.org domain.
Sure, the change is there and we have to live with it (if we choose to). But that doesn't mean we can not have our voice here because after many, many years of supporting FF with our use, we suddenly are facing a layout we were always running away from.
So yes, that can cause ranting and so on (within the forum rules of course) because people feel strongly about there beloved browser.
(edit rules link note the whole topic is ordinarily outside the scope of the forum ... Posts in the Mozilla support forum must be either questions about the use of Firefox, ... Users who post about things other than Mozilla support will be directed to an alternative discussion place .... . ~J99)

Plus this way you can centralize all the negatives here instead of a lot of separate postings about the same subject ;)
To the people reacting here in this topic: there is only 1 real way to let Mozilla itself know how you feel on the new lay out and that is not through this forum. The way is to go to https://input.mozilla.org/feedback/ and let it know there.
edit You need to use a supported Firefox to post Feedback so that will soon not be possible from Fx28 2nd edit. I was wrong feedback works with any version of Fiefpx now~J99

And I think when that is done in normal words (so no f*ck you rants and so on) and suggestions, then maybe, just maybe, it has some effect.
Also, there is an Mozilla support page with info on how to get the "old look" back, see How to make the new Firefox look like the old FirefoxBut it will only partly restore the old look, certain FF29 things can not be changed.

And yes, I myself am back to Firefox 28 which is not supported or suggested by Mozilla because it has things (bugs and security) that are not fixed in it. (Edit Please use Official downloads if you must downgrade links in Install an older version of Firefox and the growing list of exploits you will open yourself up to is listed here: https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox.html ~J99)

I am not suggesting or advertising to others to do the same. It is a risk I am willing to take and only say it is an option.
edit My reason to go back to FF 28 is because that version still has the intuitive feel and look Firefox one was praised for. With a logical lay out and a good way to simply customize it (also in about:config).
For those who say/think "Come one man, stop whining! Grow up and just accept that Firefox has to go with its time!", to them I say: nope ;)

First edit Modified May 10, 2014 7:54:58 PM BST by John99
2nd: re feedback

Asked by meegja 6 years ago

Answered by meegja 6 years ago

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My websites and UI have suddenly become huge. How can I get them back to a normal, smaller size?

Yesterday all of a sudden my webpages and UI appeared to be magnified. While I can zoom out on websites, I cannot find any option to adjust the size of the UI. I noticed… (read more)

Yesterday all of a sudden my webpages and UI appeared to be magnified. While I can zoom out on websites, I cannot find any option to adjust the size of the UI.

I noticed that Firefox 22 (which I am running) has a new feature: "Windows: Firefox now follows display scaling options to render text larger on high-res displays". Is it possible to adjust how Firefox responds to the display scaling options perhaps?

07-27-13 - moderator locked this due to the length of this two month old thread - please post in one of the other threads discussing this issue

Asked by Twietem 7 years ago

Answered by cor-el 7 years ago

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Firefox display changed, zoomed in on websites

My Firefox on a windows 7 HP laptop updated today (June 25th) and the zoom adjusted, changing the font size, as well as icons and zoomed in on websites. I noticed in the … (read more)

My Firefox on a windows 7 HP laptop updated today (June 25th) and the zoom adjusted, changing the font size, as well as icons and zoomed in on websites. I noticed in the list of changes for the program it says "improved rendering on high-res displays" is this the problem and is there anyway I can disable this? I was quite happy with the resolution before, and find this tacky and annoying...

Asked by dcmartin91 6 years ago

Answered by jscher2000 6 years ago

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Can't copy and paste from Firefox 22.0 anymore other than ctrl c & v

Normally I would select/wrap text in Firefox and right click and choose copy from the top of menu, click and go to Word,Notepad etc. and go to paste but nothing there pas… (read more)

Normally I would select/wrap text in Firefox and right click and choose copy from the top of menu, click and go to Word,Notepad etc. and go to paste but nothing there paste item in menu greyed out.

It works ok ctrl v and c but is frustrating because the built-in function is so much cleaner

  • UPDATE - Downloaded Firefox 23.0 Beta1 - problem is gone - works again - Thanks all!!

Asked by jimmy-d 6 years ago

Answered by jscher2000 6 years ago

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Warning: Unresponsive Plugin; Shockwave flash may be busy, or it may have stopped responding.

I've been using firefox for a really really long time, and I play quite a lot of facebook games. Yesterday morning, things were working perfectly fine, but later in the d… (read more)

I've been using firefox for a really really long time, and I play quite a lot of facebook games. Yesterday morning, things were working perfectly fine, but later in the day, I suddenly started getting these shockwave errors. I can't recall downloading anything and I must have uninstalled and reinstalled the flash player at least 8 times. It's honestly starting to frustrate me. I love firefox, but if the browser refuses to work, I probably won't be using it for much longer.

Asked by dragonxx21 7 years ago

Answered by John99 6 years ago

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Why doesn't firefox 26.0 doesn't show download window/box!

Why doesn't Firefox 26.0 doesn't show my downloads anymore!!!! In the last version of firefox 25.0.1 still showed the download window when using downloadhelper, now in ve… (read more)

Why doesn't Firefox 26.0 doesn't show my downloads anymore!!!!

In the last version of firefox 25.0.1 still showed the download window when using downloadhelper, now in version 26.0 I no longer see the download box. When I go to about:config my setting are as they were in version 25.0.1 but there is still no download box opening. Will this issue be fixed and or will I need will downgrade to version 25.0.1.????

Asked by lapetite66 6 years ago

Last reply by Moses 6 years ago

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Can't download files because Firefox keeps asking for consent and there isn't an ALLOW button anywhere

Everytime I try to download a "large" file Firefox keeps asking me: Firefox needs your consent to download large files. Please click ALLOW to continue your transfer. If y… (read more)

Everytime I try to download a "large" file Firefox keeps asking me:

Firefox needs your consent to download large files. Please click ALLOW to continue your transfer.

If you cannot see the request, please click on the icon next to the address bar.


I didn't have this kind of troubles before until the new version, I'm so frustrated that I'm really thinking to switch to Chrome instead.

And in case someone wonders, there isn't a request icon at ALL.

Asked by Redsteel 7 years ago

Answered by GP45 6 years ago

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Reposition Tabs at bottom, directly above web page in Firefox 65.0? -- for Windows 10 - not for MacOSX

Can anyone supply updated code for the userChrome.css for restoring Tabs to below Menu bar, Location bar, and Personal Toolbar? The code below was working until I upgrad… (read more)

Can anyone supply updated code for the userChrome.css for restoring Tabs to below Menu bar, Location bar, and Personal Toolbar? The code below was working until I upgraded to 65.0.

/* tabs on bottom */

  1. navigator-toolbox toolbar:not(#nav-bar):not(#toolbar-menubar) {-moz-box-ordinal-group:10}
  2. TabsToolbar {-moz-box-ordinal-group:1000!important}

Thank you for the help.


edited the title of this thread to include Windows 10 as the operating system the OP posted from

Asked by carrotwaffle 1 year ago

Answered by cor-el 1 year ago

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Firefox 29 is full of problems.

- Session restore brings up tabs that I had closed before closing Firefox. Sometimes it even selects a tab that I didn't have selected when I closed it. - Leaking memory … (read more)

- Session restore brings up tabs that I had closed before closing Firefox. Sometimes it even selects a tab that I didn't have selected when I closed it.

- Leaking memory like nobody's business. It went from 500 MB to 1.5 GB overnight (i.e. while it was "idling" minimized on the desktop).

- The config.trim_on_minimize setting is missing. Why is this?

- When the memory usage gets above ~1 GB (FYI, this is a guess), I start seeing problems with Firefox displaying web-page graphics and even, in one instance, shutting down text input on a web page (this was within Facebook).

- Randomly crashes for no apparent reason. FYI, this happened after I updated to Firefox 28 as well.

None of these problems ever happened before I upgraded to Firefox 28 and 29. I'm very close to abandoning Firefox altogether if these problems are not resolved promptly and permanently. In other words, I've nearly had enough of this. Whatever happened to "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"?

Asked by robbyrob 6 years ago

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Before Quantum I could put Podcasts on the top bar. After Quantum I cannot. Why not?

Please can someone help with this issue. My Podcasts USED to be on the top bar, easy to just click and open. In Quantum I cannot find them, they do not show on the top ba… (read more)

Please can someone help with this issue.

My Podcasts USED to be on the top bar, easy to just click and open. In Quantum I cannot find them, they do not show on the top bar also NASA image of the day used to be on the top bar, again easy to open, now I cannot find them.
Please can someone help?

Asked by clangerx 2 years ago

Last reply by the-edmeister 2 years ago

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Shockwave Flash is CONSTANTLY not responding and crashing

Hello there, I've had this problem for a long time, and I've done most everything suggested in other forums regarding this matter. I've disabled "disabled protected mode… (read more)

Hello there,

I've had this problem for a long time, and I've done most everything suggested in other forums regarding this matter. I've disabled "disabled protected mode, disabled hardware acceleration, made sure everything is updated, and nothing works. Unfortunately, this makes Firefox so unusable that I've had to switch to another browser for the time being, but it's having it's own issues. Very frustrating! I like Firefox and would like to have it working, but this "shockwave flash plugin" problem has been a persistent problem for the last year.

I've seen many other users who have not been able to fix the problem via the above suggestions, so--what's the verdict? Is there something else I can try?

Cheers

Asked by gforcewarp9 5 years ago

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How do I get my tabs back below the bookmark toolbar? And why the hell did you change this??? And now white on black? Unreadable.

You really need to employ some graphic artists. This is the worst change I have seen in Firefox. The tabs should be BELOW the bookmark toolbar, right above the pages. Tha… (read more)

You really need to employ some graphic artists. This is the worst change I have seen in Firefox. The tabs should be BELOW the bookmark toolbar, right above the pages. That's where your eye most easily rests when you're looking for a tab. I looked at "solutions" but I'm not a freaking software engineer!! I just need to get the tabs back down where they were and can't find a solution. If I can't find one I guess I'll have to go back to Safari, which I don't like as well as I have liked Firefox all these years, but this change is just too much.

Also, it's not bad enough to put the tabs at the top (where your eye does not easily travel to!), but now the tabs are white type on a black background. Perhaps fine for 25-year-old eyes, but not for older eyes or visually challenged people in general. And if you have multiple tabs open, which many multitaskers do, you can only see a few letters. I could go on and on about how horrible this new change is, but please take some advice from a retired graphic designer. Black backgrounds with faint light type are not the way to go.

Asked by jmazzeo 2 years ago

Answered by jscher2000 2 years ago

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How do I install version 28 over 29?

I want to return to version 28. Version 29's interface is hideous. I installed the add-on which supposedly makes it look like version 28, but it doesn't. I have downloa… (read more)

I want to return to version 28. Version 29's interface is hideous. I installed the add-on which supposedly makes it look like version 28, but it doesn't.

I have downloaded version 28. All I need to know is: Do I uninstall version 29 before installing version 28, or can I install version 28 over version 29 without uninstalling it first? I want to keep all my bookmarks.

I have already turned off automatic updates.

Asked by Purebeads 6 years ago

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Firefox 30 won't start, hangs after closing (Bug1004476)

Hello, everyone! I've filed a bug report here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1004476 The problem is that after installing Firefox 29 with no profile at all… (read more)

Hello, everyone!

I've filed a bug report here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1004476 The problem is that after installing Firefox 29 with no profile at all and installing any addon that requires a browser restart (NoScript for e.g.) Firefox restarts OK, but after closing it and trying to open again I get a message: "Firefox is already running". I can see in the Task Manager that there is already Firefox running in the background. I've found several people complaining about this issue. Here: http://forums.informaction.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=19612 And here: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2825639

Thank you in advance

Modified May 13, 2014 11:01:46 PM BST by John99


2nd Update. (Comment by a moderator)
Engineers are working on issues that have been identified.
The known issues are problems with Firefox hanging on closedown resulting in Firefox not restarting unless the hung process is killed.

Workaround ensure Firefox is NOT set to clear History on Close down
Use NewButton New Fx Menu → Preferences → |Privacy| Firefox will: [Remember History v ]
See also my post downthread /questions/997918?page=2#answer-572501 ~J99

 Modified June 5, 2014 12:26:07 AM BST by John99

3rd Update

A fix is now on the Beta Channel Fx30b8 hopefully in a couple of weeks that will be on everyone's Release of Firefox30.

Asked by TheExplorer 6 years ago

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Netflix Issue

Hi, Since yesterday (August 19, 2016) Netflix stop working and I get a message at the top of the page saying "Firefox is installing components needed to play audio or vid… (read more)

Hi, Since yesterday (August 19, 2016) Netflix stop working and I get a message at the top of the page saying "Firefox is installing components needed to play audio or video, please try again later". I just called Netflix support and they say that recently they stop using Silverlight and moved to HTML5, they advised me to update Firefox to the latest version, I was running on 47.0.1 but now after installing the update I'm running on 48.0.1 but still get the same error message. I can watch Netflix with Internet Explorer but not with Firefox anymore! For years was working fine I am wondering what's going on, can you help?

Asked by Adrianva 3 years ago

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Firefox suddenly disabled all my add-ons

I got home, turned on the PC, loaded up Firefox, and ALL my addons are disabled and tossed into their 'legacy' pool of crap. No happy colorful theme, NO adblocker, no Gho… (read more)

I got home, turned on the PC, loaded up Firefox, and ALL my addons are disabled and tossed into their 'legacy' pool of crap. No happy colorful theme, NO adblocker, no Ghostery... it even disabled my Bitdefender add-ons. Something is NOT right here. Anyone know what's going on? Firefox has NOT updated in at least a week or two, so I doubt it was an update breaking anything.

Asked by Pretzelisdead 1 year ago

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All bookmarks have grey folders-update 56

I am currently on version 55.0.3 and have had the offer of an update to 56. I accepted the update, installed and restarted FF only to find that all the bookmark foders ar… (read more)

I am currently on version 55.0.3 and have had the offer of an update to 56. I accepted the update, installed and restarted FF only to find that all the bookmark foders are grey [not yellow] and a piece of 'unwanted' software [something to do with screenshots] had an icon in the top right-hand corner. I note that doing a search for this problem on this forum, that in a post by WorriedFred on 9.28.17 @ 7.20pm, a post has been marked 'chosen solution'??? There is no solution - if there is where is it??? OR perhaps this is a new default colour style Mozilla have decided to use with this update - how inconsiderate not to mention this if it is so. And to add on a bit of software without permission is a disgrace.

If there has been an official response/explanation for this problem/bug could somebody please point me to it - I have run out of perming 56-bookmarks-grey-all-update in the search Mozilla bar. For the moment I have done a system restore back to 55 - nice yellow forders.

Rgds Damascus

Asked by damascus 2 years ago

Answered by Tonnes 2 years ago

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high CPU usage

after updating to firefox 29 and then 29.0.1, the cpu usage that firefox are using are insane, it ranges between 50%-100% cpu usage. and it happens even on normal non fla… (read more)

after updating to firefox 29 and then 29.0.1, the cpu usage that firefox are using are insane,

it ranges between 50%-100% cpu usage.

and it happens even on normal non flash tab,

besides even if the site is using flash, i am using flash block and adblock plus,

so anykind of flash material wont play or uses cpu.

please fix this ASAP, because firefox has now gone from useable to resource hog,

oh and i don't like the new look, because firefox has become more similar to chrome on User interface,

and i don't use chrome, because i don't like the UI, and now firefox tried to be chrome twin ?

i think that's all, thanks in advance.

edit : fixed some typo

Asked by DM789 6 years ago

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Downloads window not showing

For the last few days my Firefox does not display the downloads window. I have tried to follow the suggestion set out in Firefox Help ie Tools --> Options --> Gene… (read more)

For the last few days my Firefox does not display the downloads window. I have tried to follow the suggestion set out in Firefox Help ie Tools --> Options --> General

But my General Tab doesn't show under Downloads the option to check the box "Show the Downloads window when downloading a file". Under Downloads, the only option shows "save files to Downloads" and "Always ask me where to save files".

Any suggestions on how I can get to --> Downloads the option to check the box "Show the Downloads window when downloading a file".

Thank you in anticipation

Asked by P1234 7 years ago

Answered by cor-el 7 years ago