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Every morning when I open Thunderbird I receive the notice that "Thunderbird can't update to the latest version." but I am already running the latest version (91.9.0 as of this writing, screen capture attached).

None of the following have worked to resolve this issue yet:

• Download and install from "Download Thunderbird" link in notice.
• Uninstall and re-install from fresh download.

Any thoughts what I'm doing wrong, or what else I can try?

Thank you.

On May 20, 2022, in a few days, Google will turn off "unsecure access" to Gmail from Thunderbird and Outlook. This will require changing the Thunderbird account settings from "Normal Password" to "OAuth2" for verification. Problem is OAuth2 verification will not work on my Windows 7 laptop. It just runs in circles. A Google page opens, asks my Google account password, accepts it, and then shows a page asking to allow access to the account. Saying yes just closes the window, but no mail gets POPed down to Thunderbird. In my testing, OAuth2 does work on my Windows 10 laptop. If you are as stubborn as me about still using the Win7 computer, you can change your Google account to use 2-factor verification. They will call you or text you every time you log in to the Google account itself, or you can buy a USB dongle. Once you have 2FA setup, you can go to the "Security" sidebar in your Google account, and create an "app password". I said "Mail" and "Windows Computer" and it generates a 16-letter password shown as all caps, but when cut-and-pasted in my Keepass password manager is all small case. You can then go back to, or stay at "Normal Password" in your Thunderbird account settings, and when the password to your Google account fails, put in the app password and check "Remember in Password manager". Then you can POP emails from Gmail again. I don't know if Outlook has these problems. I assume IMAP on Win 7 might have these problems. I did create a new T-bird profile just to try this out. I detailed that misery quest in a previous post: "Almost can get Gmail with 2FA" https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1369836

The sad thing is my Google password is 15 characters alpha mixed with numeric, I assume case sensitive, and also special characters. So it is much more secure than the app password Google assigned me. Especially more secure now that hackers know our email password is 16 alpha non-case-sensitive. Oh well, that's Google for you. Don't blame them, blame the idiots that set their passwords to Password1.

After figuring out this with the new test Google accounts I made, I just switched one of my three "real" Gmail accounts to 2FA, and an app password for mail. If I read right, if you try to outsmart the system and drop out of Google 2FA, it also invalidates all your app passwords as well.

It would be nice if the T-bird team could see why OAuth2 verification fails in Win7. I posted results in my T-bird error console in that previous post. I hope this is a weird thing that only affects me, but just in case, I thought I would post this for other Win7 dinosaurs out there.

Hi, I'm using Thunderbird chat with XMPP and Openfire as XMPP server. My only problem is that I can't transfer file on chat window. However, I can easily send files on other XMPP client such as Pidgin or AstraChat.

So, my question is, does Thunderbird chat support file transfer ?

Thx

Has anyone received this message or know how to fix the issue that may be causing it?

The reason for the problem: 5.3.0 - Other mail system problem 554-'5.4.14 Hop count exceeded - possible mail loop ATTR34 [BL0GCC02FT003.eop-gcc02.prod.protection.outlook.com]'

I am unable to logon to my email on my computer. I am unable to receive or send messages. I am receiving this message: Login to server imap.aol.com with username deego2@verizon.net failed!

RETRY - NEW PASSWORD - CANCEL

This has been since I updated to version 102.7.1 on February 6, 2023!

Thunderbird lags or pauses while composing an email. Sometimes significantly. I have found that If I disconnect from the internet this does not happen. Is TBird send data out while composing? Is there a viable solution? Thank you for any assistance

Thundebird is an e-mail client i.e. send and receive mail over the internet.

Over that last decade or so Thunderbird has been making endless upgrades adding pointless additions like Web browsing.

A few days ago I deleted an email account after which, when I re-opened Thunderbird to send an e-mail (i.e. from an E_MAIL client), it searched for the deleted account couldn't find it (gee I wonder why) and then for an "unknown" reason couldn't send an e-mail.

In fact, merely deleting an account has rendered Thunderbird a useless piece of garbage. (Oh sorry, I can still search the internet although I still don't know why I'd use Thunderbird for that?)

So, I looked for help (using a web browser not an email client) on the internet and the only (useless) help was from 2014. (So it's an ongoing fault for a decade.)

My question is this: Why would Thunderbird spend the last decade programming pointless upgrades when you haven't even got to the level of being able to add and delete accounts, send and receive e-mails with YOUR EMAIL CLIENT?

My recommendation is:

Keep the current version of Thundebird as "Thunderbird Plus" (a multifunctional e-mail client that looks impressive and does everything other than sending and receiving e-mails)

AND

Create a new Version called "Thunderbird" that can be used as an e-mail client (that can actually add and delete e-mail accounts, send and receive e-mails that is designed for people who want an e-mail client and not a hobby tool to while away the hours on pointless activities superfluous to an e-mail client.

OR

Before adding another pointless upgrade to the current version, fix it so it functions as an e-mail client (unless you'd prefer to retain a major flaw for another decade.)

If this upsets your "free" sensibilities, consider: There's no point in creating something, even for free, if it simply cannot meet its primary function. Thunderbird version one is better than what is provided today (that's why I started using it). Well done the original designers.

Please fix T-bird email. We are a non-profit, long-term, Firefox user that paid & signed in 2months ago, & cannot send email. Please fix ASAP; problem is something to do with SMTP server. We don't want to, but we will have to go very soon. Thanks, Refuges for All WildLife.

- Open TB - Open Inbox to see all emails - Open an email, read it, delete it - Scroll down, reading email Subjects until I find another email I want to open (this may be 30-40 lines or more) - Open another email, read it, delete it

The cursor/highlight then jumps back up to the previously highlighted email (next to the first email I deleted). Now I don't know where I am, I don't know what email Subjects I have already looked at, I don't know where the next unlooked-at email is. In order to get back to where I was before I deleted the second email, I have to scroll down through many emails I have already scrolled through.

How do I stop TB from doing this? I want the cursor/highlight to stay right where it was before I delete any email, I do not want it jumping to some previous location.

Dear Thunderbird/Mozilla,

I got the "Want Thunderbird On Your Phone?" email what starts with "Did you know that less than 1% of Thunderbird users fund all the work we do? We are completely funded by donations from our global community."

My question is did you know the Thunderbird is getting worse and worse? You would like money from user meanwhile you don't take care what users want?

The new Supernova is a big crap: - multiple folders can't be selected in the same time - Customized icon function also has been removed - TB always makes folders' file corrupted, folders always must be repaired time to time - TB time to time gets stuck during email sending and when I restart TB it removes the email from the Draft so I lose my already written email - TB always turns on f*cking Threads view on all news folder but Thread view is disabled - TB always uses Correspondents column instead of "From", "Recipient" and "Size", I can't set a customized default view. - I always have to restart the TB after a few days because it becomes very slow

Since Supernova has been released we almost each day got calls from our clients and complain about TB why it is getting more useless day by day. So it is a sad story but true.

Thanks, Zsolt

Thunderbird crashes regularly. I have determined that it might be due to RAM. When Quickbooks is open, Thunderbird will crash almost all the time. If I close QB, it is fine. I have an HP desktop w/ 8GB ram. What I don't understand is that it started doing this recently, but never used to crash. Is TB using more ram now since the latest releases? Any insight would be appreciated.

duplicate of /questions/1438116 thread. Also it is Thunderbird and not Mozilla.

Connect my server to Mozilla. I need my Mozilla reached through AOL now. Please help me back into Mozilla.

screen suddenly so large and can't see the message. how to delete the red circled part to make the message larger so I don't have to scroll to see it. have adjusted the font size, etc. but nothing changes

the hourglass icon comes on whenever I click anywhere in the inbox, and the program makes me wait too long. This is a new problem with the so-called new thunderbird. It is not an improvement; it was made worse. Please fix this bug. And where it says report a bug, I can't report one.

I shut down my PC for 3 days early July, -rebooted on july 5 , new version of Thunderbird was installed since then I cannot complete the new configuration - agrees the account is good, but fails to complete. I have replaced the new version w/ newest version on july 12 , same result - cannot complete setup , fails w/ error message "Unable to login at server- probably configuration , user name or password "

Why did you upgrade my software. Now I can't send any emails. What the h did you do, and would you please stop changing the software if it's working!!!!!! I DIDN'T NEED ANY UPGRADES, IT WAS WORKING JUST FINE!!!! Everything keeps timing out. F you. I can't send anything!!!!!!!!!!!1