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When logging in to check my mail I get a popup from premacy.websitwelcome.com Wanting password and username. have not clicked it and program works fine after hitting the X. Seems suspicious and I can not get rid of the popup with virus programs.

Moderator note: Moved from the Firefox Desktop forum to the Thunderbird Desktop forum.

I just now saw an archive folder in Thunderbird containing 45 messages that I have either deleted or were still in my .Inbox. Actually, I have never archived any message in Thunderbird. I haven't touched any of the settings to put this auto-archiving into play. I delete messages and compact folders. on a fairly regular basis to reduce the clutter. There was also a new Inbox sub-folder marked 2026 that I had not created and don"t particularly care about having. These changes are "un-arranging" my folders and messing with my system. Anybody have ideas how this happened, and how I can prevent it from happening again? Many thanks. Your help will be appreciated.

I cannot get the Subscribe function to do anything. I would like it to hide, in my Folder List, some of the extraneous folders that are present either as Mozilla defaults or AOL Mail flow-down folders.. From what I read, like a number of folks have simila or nearly similar duplicate Trash/Deleted Items, Sent/Sent Items & two labeled Drafts, albeit one's properties identify it differenet from its Drafts label as Draft (singular) while the other's properties identify it as labeled, Drafts.

For a cleaner Folder List appearance, I wish to hide the unused folders from the Foder List, I have the desired Sent, Drafts & Trash folder desitnations mapped in the TB Server settings, etc. (I assume there is only one avenue for this), thinking the unused foldes would then be available to be hidden. However, deselecting unwanted folders in Subscribe has never done anything, to any folder. When I return to the Subscribe window again, the deselected folders have been reselected.

I've seen a lot of messages here with many different suggesed remedies, but haven't found any one yet that was reported as being successful. Is there one?

Matt

I have used Thunderbird for years with complete success. Recently (within the past month) I have lost the ability to send (SMTP) mail and receive the following error message: "Send Message Error, Sending of the message failed. Unable to authenticate to Outgoing server (SMTP). Please check the password and verify the 'Authentication method' in 'Account Settings | Outgoing server (SMTP)." [I just change my from address to another one going through Network Solutions and the mail sends just fine.]

Everything seems to be in order when checking my settings. I finally called Yahoo and spent an hour on the phone with them, including a supervisor (in the background) and they were unable to correct the situation. Yes, since I had called them from their tech support line (I looked it up; did not call anything sent to me) and they worked on my computer trying to fix it. They finally said it was a Thunderbird issue and said I needed to contact Thunderbird.

I am able to send from my phone (Android) using the same cox.net e-mail address. My wife is able to send from her computer using her cox.net via Thunderbird. My wife's incoming mail is IMAP while mine are all POP.

I happen to have several cox.net accounts and get the same SMTP error on all. However, all receive POP mail just fine, but see the next paragraph.

[As an aside (?), I should note that after Yahoo attempted to "fix" the problem, ALL my incoming cox.net mail comes into ALL of my cox.net accounts regardless of which one is addressed.]

I don't even know where to start at this point. Thanks for any help.

Bill

Each time I open TBird, I get a message at the bottom left of the screen telling me that TBird has deleted X number of messages. I do not want TBird to ever delete any messages. How do I turn this automatic delete function off?

Little thing. None of the sections seemed appropriate. Win 11 153.0.3 (64-bit) In the left-hand panel of Calendar the top left icon of the actual calendar day/week/month matrix is supposed to take you to today (though it's not obvious by the icon which changed a few versions back). When first coming to it after a restart (hibernation mostly in my case) it doesn't move the highlighted day. I have to click first on any other day, then click the icon for it to go to today.

Since some time my standard number of print copies in Thunderbird has changed from 1 into 2. I have to adapt this number each time I print. How can I change this back?

Hi.

Just had a not requested update to 153 esr, which in itself is generally fine, with a small exception.

The windows min, max and close buttons all come up with a code.

Probably just some weird setup I have but any ideas will be welcome.

I use userChrome.css to give a background colour, so maybe the ID of each has changes for any css

1. titlebar-min{height:1.66em; background:#00b !important}
2. titlebar-max{height:1.66em; background:#090 !important}
3. titlebar-close{height:1.66em; background:#d00 !important}

but I don't see how that would effect the actual bare icon

Thank you

I usually browse my emails using saved search folders. Messages in these search folders are losing their tags. I tag the messages, and when I browse them later, the tags are gone. The same happens in regular folders and subfolders. If I browse the regular folders and tag messages while visualizing these folders, the same happens again. Any guesses?

My e-mail stopped downloading. It was working fine, I changed nothing, no error message. It accepts my password, cycles through it's process, then quits without downloading anything. Sending still seems to work.

We did relocate from home to my folks' in-between, but I've never had issues at their place before, and otherwise my connection to their wireless works fine.

Ever since last 2 windows updates, thunderbird always asks for passwords and authorization for google calendar...this happens when you restart the computer and when you log out of thunderbird and log back in....this never happened before I uninstalled thunderbird and reinstalled it and it keeps happening is there a fix?

Hi, I have two accounts in my Thunderbird. They are Gmail (regular gmail account) and CFCC (an institutional account). The CFCC shows up in my Unified Folder list but the Gmail does not. Is that normal? The main Inbox is showing all incoming emails from both accounts so no performance issues, just wondering how to get rid of the CFCC (if that's possible) to eliminate clutter. Thank you. GES

thunderbird has stopped receiving e-mails from century link. Configurations worked for two years as pop3, now won't connect. Tried imap configuration, same issue. Changed password (CenturyLink has problems with some password characters), still will not connect. AI (co pilot) tells me it is an issue since CenturyLink made changes, but they blame the email app (tried with Samsung app, thunderbird, outlook, none will connect. Connection thru CenturyLink web page works fine.

Seit ein paar Monaten verlangt Thunderbird nach jedem Update die erneute Eingabe der Passwörter für die Verbindung zum emailprovider und zum google Kalender. Das ist extrem nervig und war in all den Jahren davor nicht erforderlich. Warum ist das so bzw. wie kann ich die Neueingabe nach jedem Update vermeiden?

I am assisting an elderly user with a personal @hotmail.com account that receives email successfully in Thunderbird but cannot send. I have confirmed they can send and receive emails from their online outlook.com portal. The user's computer setup is as follows:

• Windows 11 (with latest updates).
• Thunderbird 153.0.2 (64-bit).
• A personal @hotmail.com account with the following server configurations:

  -> Incoming IMAP: outlook.office365.com, port 993, SSL/TLS, OAuth2, and
  -> Outgoing SMTP: smtp-mail.outlook.com, port 587, STARTTLS, OAuth2.

Thunderbird successfully authenticates to Microsoft using OAuth2 for incoming email. However, when Thunderbird attempts outgoing email authentication, Microsoft's SMTP server rejects the authentication. The Error Console in Thunderbird records this message: "535 5.7.139 Authentication unsuccessful, SmtpClientAuthentication is disabled for the Mailbox."

-> Refer to attached image: "Thunderbird Error Console_20260811.jpg". -> I am able to provide a short screen recording demonstrating the failure if needed.

To try and resolve the above, I completed the following actions:

1. Confirmed Thunderbird is current (153.0.2).
2. Confirmed SMTP is configured for OAuth2 rather than Normal Password.
3. Confirmed port 587 and STARTTLS.
4. Re-authorised the Microsoft account/OAuth connection.
5. Confirmed IMAP OAuth2 works.
6. Confirmed Outlook.com webmail can send successfully.
7. Reviewed Mozilla's current “Microsoft OAuth Authentication and Thunderbird in 2026” guidance, including the section covering cases where IMAP/POP works but SMTP does not.
8. Captured the SMTP failure in Thunderbird's Error Console.

However nothing worked, so I raised the matter with Microsoft support and eventually had the matter referred to their Tier 2 team. The Microsoft case number is: 7107041963.

Microsoft Support confirmed that for a personal Outlook.com/Hotmail account there is no user-accessible mailbox-level SMTP AUTH setting, and advised that SMTP is enabled by default for supported clients. However, because sending from Outlook.com webmail works, Microsoft Tier 2 declined to investigate the SMTP server response further and directed me to Thunderbird support.

I am able to provide a copy of the chat transcript if needed.

In any event, the TLDR version IMAP works using OAuth2, but SMTP using OAuth2 fails because Microsoft's SMTP server reports SmtpClientAuthentication is disabled for the Mailbox. Microsoft Tier 2 has referred the issue to Thunderbird support.

Questions:

1. Is this a known current issue affecting personal Outlook.com/Hotmail accounts using Thunderbird?
2. Is 535 5.7.139 SmtpClientAuthentication is disabled for the Mailbox known to occur with Thunderbird OAuth2 even though IMAP OAuth2 succeeds?
3. Is there a current Thunderbird-side workaround or alternative SMTP server/configuration recommended for personal Hotmail accounts?
4. Would changing the SMTP server from smtp-mail.outlook.com to smtp.office365.com be appropriate for a personal Hotmail account in Thunderbird 153, or should the current Microsoft-documented server be retained?

-> I note there appears to be conflicting advice on this point in previous support threads.

1. Given that IMAP OAuth2 authentication succeeds for the same Microsoft account, does this indicate that Thunderbird's Microsoft OAuth authorisation itself is functioning correctly, or could SMTP require a separate permission/token that may be failing?
2. Are there any additional Thunderbird logs or diagnostics I can provide that would help resolve this matter?

Disclosure: I used ChatGPT to help organise my troubleshooting notes and technical details for this post. The troubleshooting, observations and diagnostic information described above are from my own work on the affected PC.

Im looking for help to set up my Hotmail account. I have 4 emails. They all worked perfectly for a long time. All of a sudden, everything just stopped. I have tried everything and the configuration seems to be correct. Ive tried every fix i could find. It just no longer makes sense to me. Does it just not work with Thunderbird? The specific message is "User is authenticated but not connected". Also when i tried to send an email, i get "Login to server smtp-mail.outlook.com with username **********@hotmail.com failed."