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Thunderbird causes my machine to 'hang' from time to time,

1. often for up to a second and usually a number of times in quick succession on each ocasion. Sometimes this happens frequently - say every 5 or 10 minutes - sometimes only after an hour or more since the past occurrance.

2. My machine hangs completely - nothing will work, mouse, keyboard, sound, other apps etc. If I happen to be typing (into any app - including Thunderbird - when this happens, input ceases, the cursor freezes and - if the problem persists for a second or two, Windows reports "[app] is not responding"

3. I cannot be certain, but I believe the problem occurs whilst messages are being retrieved.

This is a very serious problem as it means that I can never leave TB running as the problems it causes are not acceptable.

4. This means I cannot deal with incoming messages without periodically re-starting TB - which is an utter PIA.

I am running Win 11 Professional on a 2-year old machine with 64 Gb of memory. I have run TB in Troubleshoot mode, I have confirmed that the problem occurs regardless or whatever other apps are running (or none) and I have proven conclusively that no other app causes any kind of similar problem.

Looking forward yto hearing if others have had the same issue and what can be done about it.

Is there a bug in the code for v152? I need to connect to a ms office 365 email account with requires OAuth

The create new account process does not work, because it forces you to go through the whole (manual) process which then fails because you cannot select the Oauth option from Authentication method dropdown box - because its not there !.

This URL with the process to add OAuth: https://www.bing.com/search?pglt=419&q=setting+OAuth+in+thunderbird&cvid=22ed20c67b3843d58ddbc136bed2f174&gs_lcrp=EgRlZGdlKgYIABBFGDkyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQABhAMgYIAhAAGEAyBggDEAAYQNIBCTExMjgyajBqN6gCCLACAQ&FORM=ANNTA1&PC=ASTS

fails at Step 2 because it does not let you complete to then go to Step 3 - because the account is never created !

How do I fix this ? thanks

> I have 6 email accounts I manage in my Thunderbird. > Normally I do not delay sending emails, so I have not had a reason to use the Unsent Messages Folder. > I recently installed Thunderbird's Mail Merge Add-On to send mass individual emails to classmates for a school reunion. Doing it this way will allow me to track individual bad emails. I have a total of 3621 emails. > I created a new Gmail Account for this purpose. > There is a concern to not send too many emails out at once to avoid getting flagged and suspended by Gmail as a Spam Account. (Limits of 50 to 500 per 24 hr period have been suggested to avoid this), so scheduling bursts of emails over a period of time is necessary. > The Mail Merge Add-On has 3 output choices, Save as Drafts, Send Later, Send Now. (The instructions warn against using Send Now) > I tried the Save as Drafts function and it performed as promised, creating 3621 individual customized emails in my Account's Draft folder. This, however, makes it so you have to send each email individually. > When I tried the Send Later function, it appeared to work, but a Local Folders > Unsent Messages folder never appeared. I searched all my other email accounts and finally found it in the one Old Defunct email account list that I never use anymore. It does appear to have created all 3621 emails. > I tried to Drag & Drop it into the Local Folders stack, but received an error message that a folder of that name already exists there, even though it does not appear in the list of folders. > I tried repairing folders, compressing folders and was not able to move it or even create a new one of that name and copy the contents. > I would like advice on how to proceed to complete moving/copying the Unsent Messages folder to its proper location in the Local Folders stack. Thank you! greg

Login to server smtp-mail.outlook.com with username XXXXXX@outlook.com failed.

I am having this error I have tried logging back in, can download mail but not send any. Any ideas? Thank you

We use Thunderbird because of its flexibility across multiple OS and interfaces. We have only one PC using Windows, and that is a Microsoft surface running Windows 11. On that machine, emails are, from time to time, delayed, sometimes by 12 hours or more.

The emails come through normally on Android and Linux machines, and we had no difficulty on the Surface until we upgraded it from Win10 to Win10. The emails can also readily be accessed using a web interface to the provider's Apache server. Meanwhile, asking Thunderbird to get emails consistently reports "No new emails".

This is a very intermittent problem, with no discernable pattern to when it happens, or how long the messages get delayed.

Can anyone give me some pointers on where to start troubleshooting this?

There is (of all things!) almost too much information to process about using Firefox's email, messaging, and security options. It seems there is no longer a dedicated email application, and I cannot disentangle what I need to do to either move completely from gmail or mask my gmail account somehow through a maze of layers.

My computer was hacked a month ago, well... I got phished when I was sent an email that looked like it came from a client, it was a bit premature to receive a file from her but... it was very late, I wasn't at my best, and there it is. I always thought I was savvy. So. I did catch it in time to save my Google account and they didn't succeed in getting at any money, did lose my longtime alt-email address. My computer tech was able to restore most of Thunderbird, except for all my client information (18 years' worth), which I theorize is because the bad file was filtered into my client folders so those 2 main/many subs were deleted (or it could be because those client folders and a couple others missing were near the bottom of the folder tree and the tech guy's backup program failed at that point, he did try again but no luck). Fortunately I still keep a paper schedule so I was able to figure out who to talk to, and the autofill feature of TB was able to give me most of the emails I needed. [I have since learned about and have moved my Profile into my Documents in a separate folder so that my cloud backup picks it up every day (idrive). I really think it should be a LOT LOT easier to find and utilize the information on the Profile because EVERYONE should be backing that up every day, and the best way is to automate it. [My tech guy (re)installed Windows 11 Pro, I had Home by preference, have a tutorial from a trusted source about going back to Home without losing anything, because I do not need or want the architecture of Pro. But not doing that until I get my computer stabilized.]

All that said, to get to the point. When I collect email in TB (I have a gmail account using POP into TB as I do not like syncing and use TB to track), I usually have more than 200 emails at a time before I d/l into TB. Several times each d/l session, I get the following error message (header is cut off, it just contained my email address):

<<Unable to write the email to the mailbox. Make sure the file system allows you write privileges, and you have enough disk space to copy the mailbox.>>

I have write privileges and there is plenty of disk space. I press OK and the d/l continues for a few more emails and then stops. I then press F5 again to start d/l again. Several times a session. There is no information about which folder isn't there or what is missing or causing the error.

It appears to me that the filters are telling TB to filter into a now-nonexistent folder. I did reconstruct my client folders, but plenty of room for error there I imagine (I use QuickFolders and that actually told me which of the visible tabs no longer existed). My old laptop died in the process of all this so no longer have another version of TB as a guide. I have 367 filters (been using TB since Eudora went away), but they are only searchable by name of filter, not by possibly now-missing folders.

1. I assume that this error only means the email isn't filtered, it doesn't mean it has been deleted or anything. yes? Or am I totally wrong about the meaning of this error message, and if so, please help! 2. What can I do to fix the error? With 367 filters, it would be nice if there were some way I could figure out a way to know which filter is failing, if indeed this is a filter problem?

Thank you for any input about this. I have tried and tried to figure this out.

All best wishes, --Victoria

Hi, I have a Yahoo account in Thunderbird. Every time I try to create a folder, it doesn't appear immediately. I have to close Thunderbird and reopen it to see the new folder on my folder list. This doesn't happen with other email accounts, like Gmail or NetworkSolutions, only with Yahoo.

Thank you for any information on how to correct it, or whether other people are having the same problem.

Good afternoon,

We are experiencing the following issue.

I work as a Technical Support Engineer at a large company in Russia. All of our branches use Thunderbird as their email client.

Approximately three weeks ago, we started receiving reports from users that their email was no longer working.

After investigating the issue and trying to identify the root cause, we have not been able to find a permanent solution. We have already tried the following:

1. Completely clearing the cache, rebuilding the mailbox while preserving emails, and allowing Thunderbird to re-download all messages. 2. Changing the `mail.server.default.mime_parts_on_demand` and `mail.imap.mime_parts_on_demand` configuration settings to `false`, clearing the Trash folder, and restarting Thunderbird. (This only provided a temporary fix.) 3. Reinstalling Thunderbird and creating a fresh client installation. 4. Using the **Repair Folder** and **Compact Folder** options for every mailbox folder. 5. Several other troubleshooting methods found online, none of which resolved the issue.

According to multiple users from different departments who are not connected to one another, they all describe the same behavior:

Thunderbird stops working for about half a day. Then it starts working normally for approximately 15–30 minutes, after which it stops working again for another several hours. During these periods, no new emails are downloaded, regardless of the size or content of the messages.

When checking the mailbox size in Exchange, it reports:

• 3.56 GB used. The quota is unlimited.

However, on the local computer, the Thunderbird profile folder (`Thunderbird > Profiles`) occupies nearly 9 GB. If we calculate the size of all mailbox folders within Thunderbird itself, the total is approximately 6 GB.

Does anyone have any suggestions on what else we can try?

Has anyone experienced a similar issue or found a solution?

At this point, our employees are unable to work effectively because email is a critical part of their daily workflow, and we have been unable to identify a permanent fix.

I'm getting off a Verizon phone account and want to export my contacts before I do. I use an (old!) iPhone 8 so I can't export using their Verizon Cloud app because my operating system is too old. Is there a way to import into Thunderbird using a USB cord? Or is there a recommended non-evil app that could allow me to do the same with my phone contacts?

Hi all!

I'm having some issues with using Thunderbird with my Outlook account. From a fresh Thunderbird profile, I can sign in to the account, and get the Microsoft authentication popup. Afterwards, Thunderbird works until I close and reopen the app. After that, I get authentication failures when fetching mails.

This is only with IMAP. POP works, but I'd like to sort my emails with server-side rules.

My system is freshly updated (Thunderbird 152.0 on CachyOS 7.1.3-2).

If anyone could help me, I'd be much obliged!

Cheers!

Hello,

I'm hoping someone can help me recover a local task calendar.

Environment Thunderbird 152.0.1 (aarch64) macOS Local Thunderbird calendar (not Google, Exchange, or CalDAV) What happened

Several months ago I deleted a local calendar because I believed I was no longer using it. Unfortunately, that calendar contained all of my Thunderbird tasks.

After deleting the calendar:

the local calendar disappeared from Thunderbird all of my tasks disappeared I have not created any new local tasks since then

What I have recovered

I have an older copy of my Thunderbird profile from before the deletion.

From that profile I have:

calendar-data/local.sqlite prefs.js

I inspected the SQLite database and confirmed that it contains 394 tasks.

The task records appear intact, including task metadata such as:

titles categories completion information recurrence tables alarm/snooze tables related Thunderbird calendar metadata

All of the recovered tasks belong to the same calendar ID:

8420c0c3-6b20-436c-a39b-d4183d2665e1

Current profile

My current profile contains only my two iCloud CalDAV calendars.

The deleted local calendar no longer appears in prefs.js.

Because of that, the task database appears to be orphaned.

What I have already tried Restoring the old local.sqlite Creating a new local calendar Exporting the tasks to ICS and importing them

Thunderbird reports:

"No importable items found in the file."

My question

Since the task records still exist in the original local.sqlite, is there a supported way to:

recreate the missing local calendar definition so Thunderbird recognizes the existing tasks, or migrate the orphaned tasks into a new local calendar?

If necessary, I'm happy to provide:

the recovered local.sqlite the current prefs.js any additional profile files

My goal is simply to recover the 394 tasks into my current Thunderbird profile without losing any data.

Thank you for any guidance.

I've completed all the required information when trying to add an account to Thunderbird. The Account Hub finds my email address at Posteo and loads the configuration found out the provider. I then add my password, which I know to be correct as I've only just created it. But Thunderbird keeps telling me there is an "authentication error". I'm at a loss to know what the error is.

I have changed the website hosting company from my previous one to scalahosting.com, which in turn appears to be using grok.viawebhost.com as their mailserver.

I was a user of Eudora 7.1 for many years, but because of this change of hosting company, the Eudora email program would not connect to the Scalahosting site.

Thus I was forced to change to Thunderbird. After reading several webposting on this matter, I found and uploaded V17.0.9 and proceeded to convert the Eudora email, filters and addresses to the Thunderbird format.

This was not an easy task, and even with Google's AI assistance, I had to restart several times, but as of today - mid-Jun I have now completed the task of cleaning up all the email, installing the correct headers, etc that allows the Thunderbird program to open and correctly display all of those email without any problems.

I further cleaned up and corrected all of the Eudora filters to the TB format and now have those filters in TB to be able to be installed and correctly are accepted by the TB program.

Like wise with the contact addressee that were in the Eudora NNdbase.nnt file were cleaned up and correctly installed in the TB program.

However, the current status of the TB program is that it does not seem to be able to connect to the Scala Webhosting email site at grok.viawebhost.com. Enclosed is a pic of the supposed correct set up for the STMP at Port 465.

The other Port info from Scala is: POP3 - 995 (SSL) IMAP - 993 (SSL)

But I am not sure what else I need to do to correctly set up this older version so that I can start the collection process of the most recent emails sitting in the mailserver.

Further, it was suggested that I need to update the TB V17.0.9 to the most recent V151 by following the below sequence of updates:

According to Mozilla Support Documentation, this is the exact, official sequence to migrate safely from a legacy version:

Step 1: Run V24.8.0 (32-bit) (This updates the raw database schema out of V17. Upgrades the raw Mbox structures.)

Step 2: Run V45.8.0 (32-bit) (Stabilizes the folder indexing schema.)

Step 3: Run V52.9.1 (32-bit) (The final 32-bit staging version.60.9.1 (64-bit). Migrates the architecture to 64-bit processing.)

Step 4: Run V60.9.1 (This is the critical gatekeeper version required to unlock modern automatic profile conversion).

Step 5: Run V78.14 (This shifts the mail indexing formats).

Step 6: Run V102.15.1 (This modernizes the folder structure configurations).

Step 7: Final jump to V151.0.1 (Updates the background engine to current web standards).

I am looking any advice or suggestions from the Community that can assist me in completing this conversion to the TB program and get it fully functional so I can connect to the Scala Hosting mailserver.

Many thanks in advance for your assistance.

/s/ James T Saint

When I'm in Calendar, I see a certain time interval, depending on screen size. In the first example below, it goes from 07:00 to 21:00. When I toggle between Calendar and Email tabs (using shift+tab or by mouse-clicking) and back to Calendar, the time interval now shows 06:15-20:15. (second image) If I toggle once more, it starts at 05:15, and so on, it goes back one hour after each toggle, until it reaches 00:15. This is very annoying because I have to constantly toggle between Email and Calendar, so the Calendar is more and more shifted and I have to move it manually to keep working. I haven't seen this bug described before. Do other people experience it? Any solutions?

Thanks, Franck

Today i moved mails between folders. The move was successful, as confirmed by the webmailer. However Thunderbird stopped displaying these messages. Instead i got several popups, that the server is not available.

I have 2 issues with that:

First: Popups are disruptive. Especially when they block interaction with Thunderbird. Especially when using a tiling windowmanager(sway). Especially when there are multiple, which need to be closed in a specific order, because interaction is blocked by the newer popups.

How can i block these popups? Disable sync is not a reasonable option.

Second: Why did thunderbird not display the moved messages? Is it a bug? Or a config issue?