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How to migrate old Sync (Weave) account/login to the new Sync service?
I tried to enter the u/n + pwd that's always worked, but it says I must use an email address. No idea what email address is associated with my account... But when I was logged into the old sync site above, I noticed it said: "Welcome, email address (Sign out)". So I tried that email address + my password on the new site, but still it didn't work.
Where to from here? N.B. as far as I can tell Sync is still working fine within FF 30 itself (OS X).
Done all this now, not very happy at all with the approach taken, the older Sync system was far better, at the very least Mozilla could've kept it indefinitely for more technically literate users, not set a deadline for complete destruction.Read this answer in context 👍 0
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hello, you'll have to sign up for the new system again at https://accounts.firefox.com/signup - you can use the same mail account you have used priorly for that...
But, what about everything that's already synched... Will it be merged (& my local key remain the same) into the new acct if I use the same email addy (u/n) + pwd?
I've had my Sync acct since 2008, I'd prefer it to be merged not obliterated. Pretty bad to expect people to create an entirely new account, are you absolutely sure this is the only approach? Why?
yes, there's no migration path, the new account system also doesn't come with a local recovery key but only uses email & your chosen password to grant access - you could delete the old account and start with a new one.
since the purpose of sync already is merging all the changes from other devices into your local firefox profile it really won't make much difference if you obliterate the old account. all the important synced data is already stored locally in your profile and will be transferred to the new account this way...
Really disappointed, I liked the concept of a local key, it was a strength of the old service, why have they ditched that approach, surely not to appeal to n00bs?
yes it was changed because far too many users didn't understand the old system, used it as a backup with only one device and were surprised they couldn't get their data back with just their username/pwd combination.
some technical background of the security features of the new system is described at https://github.com/mozilla/fxa-auth-server/wiki/onepw-protocol#security-analysis
Sigh, sometimes you've just got to fight stupid, not run with it... >.> :-(
So, no more DIY Weave/Sync servers too?
Done all this now, not very happy at all with the approach taken, the older Sync system was far better, at the very least Mozilla could've kept it indefinitely for more technically literate users, not set a deadline for complete destruction.
"I tried to enter the u/n + pwd that's always worked, but it says I must use an email address." Using the email address for the Username was started in Dec 2010 when Firefox 4 was in the Beta stage; very close to the day when the Sync Key (aka Recovery Key) was instituted.
"I liked the concept of a local key, it was a strength of the old service " There is still a "key", but it isn't user-facing. The new "key" is generated from the Account name and the Password, not generated randomly as before. More confusing is that users who enrolled and had the old Recovery key still see that old "key" in Options > Sync. New "Firefox Accounts" don't show a "key" in Options > Sync.
No deadline has been set for disabling the older version of Sync on the Firefox pre-29 versions. ESR 24.#.0 versions are still current and will be thru 24.8.0 or 24.9.0 as ESR transitions to Firefox 31.
Always had just a username on the old sync protocol, never been an issue.
Yeah I know, I've read the doco already provided earlier in this thread about the new protocol & all the pros/cons.
Yeah I know, but it's as good as dead if you can't add any new devices, can only unlink etc. Plus it's only true for pre 29...
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Were did you come up with the idea that you can't add new devices to newSync?
Yes, the "pairing" thing is gone, but you can still add a new device using the Account Name (email addy) and the Password.
I wasn't referring to the new sync. If you look at my 3 points, I was addressing your 3 paragraphs/points.
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