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My name is graeme , my wife Olivia.

I have many many messages from various people; if I reply to a a mail from "fred", Thunderbird creates a mail:

to: fred@xxxx from: graeme@xxxx

I have several messages from my wife , that behave in this same fashion (ie , as you would expect) but ONE message, when I reply the message displayed in Thunderbird (ie NOT YET SENT, so no SMTP etc yet involved) says:

(it does NOT have a REPLY-TO header BTW)

to: graeme@... from olivia@.....

...I've search back though my mailbox and all the mails from my wife work as you would expect, bar this one ...AND ONE OTHER that I found:

This says:

from olivia@.xxxx to: company@xxxx, olivia@xxxx. graeme@xxxxx

When I hit reply , it generates a message:

from olivia@xxxx to: company@xxxx, olivia@xxxx. graeme@xxxxx

So the from and to in the reply are exactly the same as the from/to in the initial message (they are not swapped)

So, to be clear 99% of messages are fine, it's just one or two cases where I get this odd behavior.

I am using Thunderbird 151.0.1 (64-bit), and I get the "trusted source" message in a pop-up every time Thunderbird checks for email. There is only an option to Dismiss presented. My account name changes color to red and has a red triangle with an exclamation mark displayed. I went to Settings > Privacy & Security > Security > Certificates > Manage Certificates and looked at all the certificates listed in the Certificate Manager > Authorities (which is the only section with anything listed) and don't see anything from mobile.charter.net. I can go to SPECTRUM.NET (Charter) and view my email with no problems. I'm at a loss as to be able to view my email in Thunderbird.

Running Win10, all the sudden I'm getting Not Responding messages, failures to connect to server, and slow deleting of emails. I tried everything: uninstalling/reinstalling; running on troubleshooting mode; checking compatibility. Nothing works. Any ideas?

Thank you

As of this morning I am no longer able to download or send email via my Spectrum email account. A warning message appears next to the account name reading 'The certificate for mobile.charter.net:993 does not come from a trusted source.' The section from the View Certificate page makes it seem like the certificate should be valid:

Issuer Name

Country BE Organization GlobalSign nv-sa Common Name GlobalSign RSA OV SSL CA 2018 Validity Not Before Tue, 19 May 2026 11:45:30 GMT Not After Fri, 04 Dec 2026 11:45:30 GMT . Spectrum of course says it's an issue with my email client. Adding an exception for mobile.charter.net does work, but that doesn't seem like a good long-term solution. When I attemt to get a certificate for the server, I get a 'No Information Available - Unable to obtain identification status for this site'. I am not using a mail scanner and my only anti-virus is Windows 11 built-in Virus & Threat Protection. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated, thanks.

I have been using Thunderbird for years with no problems. However recently, Thunderbird very often simply stops responding. Sometimes it just hangs up and sometimes the program bar at the top displays "Mozilla Thunderbird (Not Responding)". If I try to wait for it to respond, it literally hangs for several minutes before it begins to respond again, and often, it simply never starts responding again. It has simply gotten to the point where Thunderbird is practically unusable. All my other application software continues to work with no problems. It's just Thumderbird.

The version number in this submission may not be correct. I can't provide the real version number because of the hangups.

Any suggestions?

Whenever I do anything with email I get a message "not responding" which causes a delay for a few minutes before it proceeds This occurs with almost every action Open email, delete email, browse a different folder (eg Inbox to Sent) it suddenly started happening yesterday

Hi all,

I've been using Thunderbird for eons but yesterday morning it started freezing up constantly.

It freezes up ("Thunderbird is not responding") every time new emails are received or any time I take any action while the Inbox folder is open. So, if I delete an email it freezes for a few minutes. If I do anything pretty much, it freezes up for a few minutes. Then it comes back and I can do another action, and it freezes again. This only seems to be happening when I have the Inbox open - if I go to other folders it seems to function normally.

Things I've tried without success: - Troubleshooting mode - Adding exceptions for my profile folders to Windows Defender - Compressing Inbox (and Trash and Junk) - Repairing the Inbox index

This doesn't appear to be a memory issue - right now, memory use for my entire system seems to be hovering at just over 50%. But Thunderbird is still freezing.

My Inbox folder is very large, but it's never been an issue before and nothing significant was added yesterday when it started failing.

Any suggestions appreciated!

Thanks

I have version 146 of Thunderbird. My OS is Windows 11. The Local Folders in Thunderbird are out of alphabetical order.

I have list of 130 local folders that are in the correct alphabetical order. Under that list, I have another list of 25 folders, starting with the letters L - U, that are in order alphabetically. I have tried to move several of them back up into their correct place in the list of 130 folders that are above them. This worked well for about 10 folders. Now, when I try to move a folder from the second set to its correct place in the group of 130 folders above them, they all end up in the same spot, between folders starting with De and Dra. When I try to move them away for this location, into their correct alphabetical slot, they will not move.

Also, when I try to create a New Subfolder under Local Folders, it is not created in the correct alphabetical location.

Does anyone know of an easy to correct these errors? I need to get my local folders in the correct order alphabetically again. Thank you.

Since the latest update to my Thunderbird installation (Windows 11), my previously created Mailing Lists have stopped working after always working well. Thunderbird Release: 140.7.0esr (64-bit)

I now get the message below when I try to send an email using a mailing list address:

• • • Committee <*** Committee members> is not a valid email address because it is not of the form user@host. You must correct it before sending the email. (Name partially starred out for security).

Running Thunderbird 140.8.0esr 64bit Windows 11 Home, v25H2 932GB storage 32GB ram i7-13700k

Recently, I've started getting the following message every time I launch Thunderbird: "The certificate for imap.googlemail.com does not come from a trusted source."

Digging into details I get: "you are about to override how Thunderbird identifies this site" "Location: imap.googlemail.com:993" "This site attempts to identify itself with invalid information" "Unknown Identity. The certificate is not trusted because it hasn't been verified as issued by a trusted authority using a secure signature."

Digging deeper into the certificate I find the issuer is Bitdefender who I use for antivirus and VPN. However, the VPN shows no effect when enabled or disabled. The validity period is 2 Feb 2026 to 27 Apr 2026

l can get email, but cant send it. Is Bitdefender at fault?

I'm stumped. What should I do???

I have used Thunderbird for many years and and have loved it. However, recently my "Local Folders Inbox" have been extremely slow (deleting emails, reviewing an email, etc.). I have tried every suggestion that I have found without any change: reducing emails in the folder (down to about 75 remaining), compacting and repairing the folder, deleting and rebuilding all of the msf files and global database, disabling all addons, empty trash and junk, clear the cache, disable hardware acceleration, exclusion in antivirus, etc. It has become very frustrating. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thunderbird forces me to use the new amount hub. And I get authentication error when trying to setup outlook.com email

DEUTSCH (English see below(:

Hallo zudammen,

Konfiguration: - Window11 25H2 (aktuell) - Thunderbird Beta-6 (BuildID=20260213180051) - gpg2.5.17 (Gpg4Win 5.0.1); siehe auch: <https://www.gpg4win.de/>

Der bisherige und standarmärige Installationspfad von "Gpg4Win": "C:\Progam Diles (x86)\Gpg4Win\" wurde softwareseitig auf: "C:\Progam Diles\Gpg4Win\" geändert!

Bug 1967121 (Closed) => thunderbird148 --- fixed! <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1967121>

Zur Zeit verfolge ich die Änderungen bezüglich der externen Schlüsselverwaltung in Thunderbird-Beta, da das Arbeiten mit externen Schlüsseln in der esr- und in der relesease-Version von Thunderbird seit der offiziellen Herausgabe von gpg2.5.x absolut nicht mehr möglich ist! Die geheimen Schlüssel für das Entschlüsseln und Signieren werden mit gpg2.5.x nicht mehr gefunden!

In der Schlüsselverwaltung von TB-Beta befinden sich meine öffentlichen Schlüssel und alle öffentlichen Schlüssel meiner Kommunikationspartner. Extern sind meine geheimen Schlüssel gelagert. Folgende Präferenz wurde aufgrund von gpg2.5.x hinzugefügt:

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Allerdings erscheint nach all diesen Maßnahmen die Fehlermeldung: "The secret key that's required to decrypt this message is not availlable."

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Mit Herausgabe von Thunderbird/148.0 (release) sind dort die gleichen Probleme mit der externen Schlüsselverwaltung zu bepbachten!

Mit Versionen gpg < 2.5 funktioniert unter Windows alles problemlos!

UNTER LINUX haben hier Änderungen an der Präferenz: "mail.openpgp.load_untested_gpgme_version" nachweislich keinerlei Auswirkungen!

Was übersehe ich?

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ENGLISH:

Hello,

Configuration: - Window11 25H2 (current status) - Thunderbird Beta-6 (BuildID=20260213180051) - gpg2.5.17 (Gpg4Win 5.0.1); see also: <https://www.gpg4win.de/>

The previous and default installation path of "Gpg4Win": "C:\Program Files (x86)\Gpg4Win\" has been changed by the software to: "C:\Program Files\Gpg4Win\"!

Bug 1967121 (Closed) => thunderbird148 --- fixed! <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1967121>

At the moment, I’m following the changes regarding external key management in Thunderbird Beta, because working with external keys in the ESR and release versions of Thunderbird has become absolutely impossible since the official release of gpg 2.5.x! The secret keys required for decryption and signing are no longer found when using gpg 2.5.x!

In Thunderbird Beta’s key manager, my public keys and all public keys of my communication partners are present. My secret keys are stored externally. The following preference was added because of gpg 2.5.x:

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However, even after all these measures, the following error message appears: **"The secret key that's required to decrypt this message is not available."**

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With the release of Thunderbird 148.0 (release), the same problems with external key management can be observed there as well!

With gpg versions **older than 2.5**, everything works flawlessly under Windows!

• • UNDER LINUX**, changes to the preference

"mail.openpgp.load_untested_gpgme_version" have demonstrably no effect at all!

What am I missing?

I have saved relevant e mails to local folders in my Thunderbird account on my Applemac. I opened up Thunderbird on my MacBook and downloaded my Thunderbird account but it did not copy those local folders, merely 1 empty folder. Without these also shown in my Thunderbird account when I am away from home, I cannot see those records. I am struggling to find a solution. Are you able to help please? Alan Dowler

I have created a new gmail address for my wife. Would like to add this address to my existing Thunderbird Mail account so that her emails also come to my Thunderbird email account. Not sure how to add her address to do this.. Thanks