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I use Thunderbird 115.12.2 (64-bit) with Hotmail, using a local account on Windows 10. Microsoft is introducing 'modern authentication' on Hotmail, and I want to be ready for this, but I cannot follow the guidance at https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/office/modern-authentication-methods-now-needed-to-continue-syncing-outlook-email-in-non-microsoft-email-apps-c5d65390-9676-4763-b41f-d7986499a90d

If I try to alter my existing Thunderbird Account Settings for my Hotmail account, the authentication method for Outgoing Server (SMTP) is shown as Normal Password but there is no option to change it to OAuth2. If I delete and recreate my Hotmail account in Thunderbird, I get an error message from Microsoft saying that I cannot log in because my browser is not set to allow cookies -- even though I believe I have set both Thunderbird and Firefox (my default browser) to allow cookies.

Microsoft sent email last night announcing the end of "Normal Password" for Hotmail, and warning that Hotmail would REQUIRE "modern authrentication" beginning 9/16. I have personal desktop subscription to Microsoft 365. I have set Microsoft account to 2FA and checked in Tbird that cookies are enabled.

I have spent hours and days trying & failing. With server imap-mail.outlook.com using OAUTH2, Thunderbird won't sync and shows message saying that server doesn't support the authentication protocol please enter another one. With 2FA still turned on and using Normal Password setting and entering an App Password from Microsoft, the Imap connection is fine about 85% of the time, needing re-entry of the App password about once a day or so (usually requires several tries until App Password gets accepted.)

The 0AUTH2 fails with Norton Smart Firewall turned Off or Turned On-makes no difference.

(Sending email with Outlook and 0AUTH2 DOES work okay.)

I've also tried Imap connection with a different server: Outlook.office365.com, using 0AUTH2.

In this case, Tbird shows me a Timeout error and never makes an Imap connection to the server.  

I've been limping along with the app password, and "normal password" authentication, but now Microsoft announces they will stop accepting connections that are not 0Auth2 ("modern authentication") from Tbird or any other software after 9/16. The clock is ticking. I've tried every remedy I've seen online from Tbird or from Microsoft. Nothing has yet allowed a QAUTH connection for Tbird to a hotmail IMAP server. Please help! !

From Sept-16-2024 Microsoft will deprecate Normal Password and require OAuth2 authentication on its email accounts accessed from Thunderbird and other clients.

I'm trying to convert my hotmail accounts on Thunderbird to OAuth2 authentication.

Server Settings Authentication can be set to OAuth2 because OAuth2 is an option in that menu.

But SMTP Server Authentication cannot be set to OAuth2 because OAuth2 is not an option in that menu.

Both Connection Security methods ( Inbound and SMTP ), are set to STARTTLS.

See screenshots, thank you.

I've appreciated using Thunderbird for an ad-free Hotmail experience for quite some time. I've changed my Hotmail password every few weeks lately and Thunderbird worked fine when I entered the new password at the prompt when Thunderbird started.

Just now however, I needed to get into my Microsoft account that uses the same password as my Hotmail account. My login to Microsoft failed. Trying to understand why, I looked in Thunderbird at the saved password for Hotmail's server:

oauth://login.microsoftonline.com (https://outlook.office.com/IMAP.AccessAsUser.All

https://outlook.office.com/POP.AccessAsUser.All 
https://outlook.office.com/SMTP.Send offline_access)

The saved password was a 464 character long ASCII string totally irrelevant to the password I'd selected for Hotmail and Microsoft.

I went through the password change process for Hotmail, was then able to get into my Microsoft account and restarted Thunderbird. As usual, Thunderbird asked for the new password. I entered it and was then able to receive new mail from the Hotmail server in Thunderbird. However, again, the saved password in Thunderbird for Hotmail was not the password I'd entered.

Next, I deleted the saved passwords in Thunderbird, restarted it and this time it prompted me to be sure I'd downloaded it from a reliable source. I've never seen that prompt before. It came with my Linux Mint installation, so I thought it would be safe, but again there's an irrelevant password saved for my Hotmail account.

It's like it eventually changes my password for Hotmail and Microsoft since I can get mail through Thunderbird with the odd password it saves, but if I use what should be my password for Hotmail or my Microsoft account via a web page interface, the password doesn't work.

I'll have to stop using Thunderbird if this continues.

I changed my Gmail password and Thunderbird asks me to enter the new one, however, it displays my email address with a lit 'Next' button but the button doesn't take me to the next screen to allow me to enter the password, it just flashes, no matter how many time I click it.

I have just completely reinstalled Thunderbird v115.11.1 after uninstalling the previous installation. There are two problems, possibly linked to a faulty or missing setting.

Remote images will not display, even after specifically enabling remote images for each email, or after turning on "display remote content" as a default. Also it claims there is a potential security threat with Thunderbird's own web addresses: "live.thunderbird.net." and "addons.thunderbird.net.".

I have attached screen-shots of the error messages, and of a thunderbird email that fails to display its images.

Currently unable to set up to an existing account on a new laptop. I’ve verified user name and password on the old laptop, but these don’t work when setting up the new one. The Thunderbird set-up wizard found my configuration in the Mozilla ISP DB, but can’t verify it. In other words, it won’t accept my username or password. I’ve done this for both IMAP and POP3, but it makes no difference. I’ve confirmed user name and password for both smtp and mail folders, and tried them in setting up. However, on the new laptop, Thunderbird doesn’t ask for user name, but just the name as displayed to others. Once I get set up, I’d like to copy my archive into the new system. One thing at a time…

I have received an email from Microsoft informing me of changes to its authentification procedure. As from Sept, to continue using Thunderbird to access my outlook/hotmail accounts, I have to change the authentification method to Oauth2. The reasons and changes required are detailed here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/microsoft-oauth-authentication-and-thunderbird-202 I have 2 problems. 1. imap-mail.outlook.com - I can change my authentification method to Oauth2. However, when I then try to access my mail via TB, I get an error stating that the server imap-mail.outlook.com does not support the authentification method! (see image) 2. Outgoing Server SMTP There is no Oauth2 option available to choose!

Can anyone help? I am using the most up to date version of Thunderbird 115.12.2 (64-bit).

Microsoft tell me that I must use OAuth2 for my accounts, else I'll be locked out.

Server is imap-mail.outlook.com. If I select OAuth2, then I can't receive emails unless I reset back to Normal Password.

I'm also supposed to set my SMTP server (smtp-mail.outlook.com) to OAuth2, but this isn't an option on the drop down list.

Help, please!

I use both Thunderbird and Outlook for my cox.net email account. I can receive incoming emails using Thunderbird but cannot send emails, and I can both receive and send emails using Outlook. The server settings are identical for both Thunderbird and Outlook - imap with STARTTLS and port 993 and smtp with STARTTLS and port 587. When Thunderbird is unable to send an email, I get a balloon that indicates that the smtp server cannot recognize my email address, which is [email removed]@cox.net.

settings for smtp server for cox.net account using Thunderbird server name smtp.cox.net port 465 but I have also tried 587 connection security STARTTLS no authentication method user name [removed]

settings are the same for account using Outlook, which does allow me to send emails

When I send a message to anyone using the blind copy option, both the name and email address appears on the recipients copy of the email. This first started in December ( I send Quarterly mailings to several groups.) I have used this program for last couple of years and never had this problem before. What has happened and how can I correct it.

It looks like they are being sent as a blind copy, but they arrive with the email address showing.

Hello, I am receiving phone calls and emails from contacts in my current address book stating that my email has been hacked. Someone is sending them emails stating that my company has changed their ACH accounting numbers. I need to resecure my account and I have started by changing passwords, however, I am not receiving emails that are currently being sent to me. I assume those are being rerouted to whomever has hacked my account. Can you please advise on how I should proceed? Thanks

My Thunderbird Version: 115.12.2 (32 Bit)

Microsoft is changing the authentication method for outlook mail to OAuth2. I follow the guide here,

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/microsoft-oauth-authentication-and-thunderbird-202

And I get to this screen - but my version of the program does not have OAuth2 as an option (see attached image).

Thanks for the help.

While using Thunderbird, it mysteriously stopped connecting to Yahoo Mail. This happens every few years and I think it's related to Oauth2 credentials.

I generated a new secure mail key and copied it into Thunderbird but that didn't work. So then I checked online, and one of the steps in the Thunderbird instructions is: "Select 'Server Settings' for mail account; Set incoming server 'Authentication Method' to 'Oauth2'; Click on 'OK' ". But Oauth2 isn't one of the options. The choices are normal password, encrypted password, Kerberos/GSSAPI, and NTLM.

I'm using POP. Tbird version 115.11.1.

the email "email stating We couldn’t process your monthly recurring donation from noreply@fundraiseup.com" really appears to be a scam

Please advise

Thank You

Hi, I have configured 2 accounts for E2EE using OpenPGP. I can send signed emails &/or encrypted messages between the 2 accounts. However, if I send a "normal" message i.e. no signing & no encryption selected, it arrives as not signed (correct), but encrypted according to the "Show message security" icon. If I send a normal message to an account that has no known encryption setup, then the message arrives and the "Show message security" button is missing (correctly).

Any ideas why this is happening? Thanks for your help.

Hi, 3 weeks ago I suddenly could not log in to my email without errors.

First I get a Google screen "Choose an account" showing the three Gmail accounts I use. I select the first one.

"Mozilla Thunderbird wants to access your Google Account". This refers to calendars. I take the Allow option.

Then I get the message "Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead

Thunderbird detected a potential security threat and did not continue to localhost. If you visit this site, attackers could try to steal information like your passwords, emails, or credit card details."

When I close this window I get another Google screen .

"Mozilla Thunderbird wants to access your Google Account". This refers to i) mail, ii) contacts, and iii) calendars. I take the Allow option.

Then I get the same message message "Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead

Thunderbird detected a potential security threat and did not continue to localhost. If you visit this site, attackers could try to steal information like your passwords, emails, or credit card details."

This process cycles through the other two emails. Then I get and authentication failure message.

I have seen hints that this might be a certificate issue but I have tried in vain to find certificates stored in Thunderbird.

Any help approeciated.

Thanks

PaulM