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If marking messages as Junk help train TB, does deleting ALL messages in the Junk folder also undo that training, by getting rid of junk mail "models" TB uses for evaluating incoming new messages?

Context: I'm moving from Outlook to Thunderbird so still adjusting. Bear with me.

I prefer to view all incoming messages initially as plain text. I believe this prevents tracking-images and other detritus from coming in with the message. So with Outlook, everything come in plain text; I can change the currently displayed message to HTML when I trust the source and want view it that way. It does NOT affect the other messages.

Now, with TB, it seems that when I choose the View / Message Body As / Original HTML then all messages viewed subsequently are displayed as Original HTML.

I've looked around for a little while and don't see the how to default all messages to Plain Text and apply the View-as-Original-HTML to only the currently-displayed message.

Is this possible? Thanks for your help, Mark

I see this question was asked before (https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1415951) but the thread is now archived and I don't think the concern of the poster was understood/answered.

Your Thunderbird profile contains all the credentials needed to "be you" by having full access to all linked email accounts. In order to protect these accounts a Private Password can be created. It prevents someone trying to use Thunderbird as you (using your profile) from seeing the passwords or establishing connections to the email servers.

The question I have (and I believe was being asked) is, does using a Private Password actually encrypt the account credentials, or does it just block someone when they're using the Thunderbird program? Asked another way, would a bad actor with access to the profile and access to appropriate sleuthing tools be able to recover the credentials--from the files alone--thus bypassing the private password of the Thunderbird program?

Restoring email in thunderbird has stopped with mai 2024 After loss of emails and personal folders: the staff is doing absolute nothing. This is criminal pig pack

koffie koffie 12/21/24, 4:30 AM

Hello,

restoring email in thunderbird has stopped with mai 2024. How can this fixed?

please ask me for concrete support. Do no send me to the next address.

koffie All Replies (11) Mapenzi Mapenzi

   Top 25 Contributor

12/21/24, 10:31 AM

What do you understand by "restoring" email? Recover lost email? Recover deleted mail? Download email? Maybe you are looking for somewhat like this https://www.emailadepts.com/ThunderbirdRecovery.htm?

Modified December 21, 2024, 10:35:52 AM PST by Mapenzi Helpful?

Did this reply solve your problem? koffie koffie Question owner 12/24/24, 12:22 AM

There no support here. I'got this link after protest. Your answer here is just a provocation. Obviously you understand the situation.

Thunderbird was removed in context with a fail installation. This was not obviously.

After that I've installed the program again. The mails I've got back again in this procedere have stopped with last mai. Thunderbird was host of three accounts: The aol account was rebuild completely. The gmx account was rebuild until mai. So its looks not like normal procedere.

I've asked for a solution-without a bill.

Did this reply solve your problem? user213815874572776100201782415079883066567 user213815874572776100201782415079883066567 12/24/24, 7:41 AM

Hi koffie,

I'm sorry that you're having this problem. We are a community of users helping users. Mapenzi's response was not a provocation. We need more information before we can try to solve the problem.

Is Thunderbird working well with your AOL account now?

What do you mean that the gmx account was rebuilt until May? That it shows messages up to May, but not after? What happens when you try to send and receive messages through the gmx account now?

Rick Helpful?

Did this reply solve your problem? koffie koffie Question owner 12/25/24, 12:22 PM

@Rick

I've checked again.

1.The aol account isn't complete. The mails I've received after new install Thunderbird stop with last mai. From september I've received them again.

2.The GMX account is empty from last mai until new install in december.

3. The thirth account gmail.com has been disappeared completely.

I hope this clears your last question. With restoring account is meant receiving emails after the new install of Thunderbird.

I can send an receive mails now as usual but I didn't get the mails of the indicate periode. These are partly important documents for authorities.

koffie

Did this reply solve your problem? user213815874572776100201782415079883066567 user213815874572776100201782415079883066567 12/25/24, 12:53 PM

Let's summarize.You're having problems with three accounts.

   AOL: is working now, but shows no messages received between May and September.
   GMX: shows no messages received between May and December. Not clear if it is working now.
   Gmail: no longer exists in Thunderbird. 

Is that correct?

Were the missing messages in IMAP folders or POP3 folders or local folders or some combination?

Steps to take:

   AOL: Can you see the missing messages when you log into aol.com? If not, do you have a back-up?
   GMX: Is the account working now? Can you see the missing messages when you log into Web mail? If not, do you have a back-up?
   Gmail: Can you set up your account again and tell us what you see? 

Would you please also tell us what was going on in May and September and December? When did you re-install Thunderbird? Did you re-install Thunderbird more than once? How did you re-install it? Have you been using Thunderbird since May? Have you been accessing the messages through another e-mail client or over the Web? When did you notice that messages were missing?

Did you re-install Thunderbird because your accounts were not working? Re-installing Thunderbird does not help with send and receive issues.

I understand that you would like a quick solution, but this situation is complex. It takes time to gather information and diagnose the problem.

My guess for now is that Thunderbird is working properly. Your messages were deleted at the server or through another e-mail client or by how you re-installed Thunderbird. You will not find the missing messages unless you have them backed up somewhere. But that's just a guess. Let's hope for a better result. Helpful?

Did this reply solve your problem? koffie koffie Question owner 12/25/24, 2:13 PM

"AOL: is working now, but shows no messages received between May and September.

GMX: shows no messages received between May and December. Not clear if it is working now. -It is working. I can send and receive emails

Gmail: no longer exists in Thunderbird."

Thats correct. See at GMX.

The mails both from pop3 and imap were stored _______________________________________________

"Would you please also tell us what was going on in May and September and December?" -Nothing else. I'm unsure what you mean.

"When did you re-install Thunderbird?" -last week.

"Did you re-install Thunderbird more than once? How did you re-install it?" -No, one time./ Sudo apt-get...

"Have you been using Thunderbird since May?" -Daily

"Have you been accessing the messages through another e-mail client or over the Web? -No

"When did you notice that messages were missing?"

-Ca. two weeks ago.

"Did you re-install Thunderbird because your accounts were not working? Re-installing Thunderbird does not help with send and receive issues."

-Thunderbird was missing.

"AOL: Can you see the missing messages when you log into aol.com? If not, do you have a back-up?" No/No

"GMX: Is the account working now? Can you see the missing messages when you log into Web mail? If not, do you have a back-up?"

-Account is workin. I dont see missing messages.

"My guess for now is that Thunderbird is working properly. Your messages were deleted at the server or through another e-mail client or by how you re-installed Thunderbird. You will not find the missing messages unless you have them backed up somewhere. But that's just a guess. Let's hope for a better result."

-The missing emails are missing just for short but different periodes of 6 month on aol and 8 month on GMX. Your speculation is not logical and frustrating if you send question which have obviously no meaning.

These mails exsist further. Only the recovering has been stopped for some month for unknown reasons.

koffie

Did this reply solve your problem? koffie koffie Question owner 12/28/24, 8:03 AM

I ask here for support and help since over 16 days. Nothing happens except ignorance. The Thunderbird staff knows excactly whats going on here, what are the reasons and what's to do. Here is nothing complex except your passivity over a long periode. My e-mails has disapeared after new install of your e-mail client. This company is doing absolute nothing the whole time.

Did this reply solve your problem? koffie koffie Question owner 12/28/24, 8:05 AM

Communication and "support" as provokation.

Modified December 28, 2024, 8:06:33 AM PST by koffie

Did this reply solve your problem? Wayne Mery Wayne Mery

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   Top 10 Contributor

12/28/24, 4:18 PM

koffie said

   I ask here for support and help since over 16 days.
   Nothing happens except ignorance.
   The Thunderbird staff knows excactly whats going on here,
   what are the reasons and what's to do.
   Here is nothing complex except your passivity over a long periode.
   My e-mails has disapeared after new install of your e-mail client.
   This company is doing absolute nothing the whole time.

You first posted here 7 days ago, and the people here are doing their best to assist. Please don't be a jerk to them. Helpful?

Did this reply solve your problem? koffie koffie Question owner 1/2/25, 6:14 AM

This is no support. From day one: there is absolute no information by Thunderbird. The staff is passiv for over to weeks and will misuse protest to continue.

Did this reply solve your problem? koffie koffie Question owner Today at 4:32 PM

American support: 100% corrupt

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