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Win 10 - Thunderbird 115.5.1 (64 bit) When my inbox starts to get a bit heavy, I create a new folder and move a batch of mails into it, usually one or two years worth. Recently I went to look at an old mail with several photos attached and although they were listed at the bottom of the message, I could not open them. I checked another mail and found the same thing. I have not looked further, but it seems likely that the problem affects the entire folder and possibly all my old folders. I am guessing that they have somehow become separated from the mails. Can you suggest a way of finding the lost attachments please?

Nearly every day I have to quit Thunderbird and reopen it as, it will not connect to my server. This means that all the viewing criteria and spending/descending has to be reset and is a real drag. As soon as I reopen Thunderbird it works normally again.

I have used the same connection details for years and it is just the last two Thunderbird versions that have replicated this issue. It's not always every morning when I wake my iMac up, but normally happens then or, later during the day.

I asked this question for 102.3.1 but received no answers so, I am hoping that there will be an answer to this.

Thanks

Has anyone received this message or know how to fix the issue that may be causing it?

The reason for the problem: 5.3.0 - Other mail system problem 554-'5.4.14 Hop count exceeded - possible mail loop ATTR34 [BL0GCC02FT003.eop-gcc02.prod.protection.outlook.com]'

While trying to move emails from my inbox to a folder, several months worth of emails disappeared. I've tried doing a global search for them, but there's no trace of them.

I have access to the same email account using Thunderbird on two separate Macs. So one computer's Thunderbird has all of my emails, but the other computer's Thunderbird is now missing those several months.

I've tried using a Time Machine app to reverse the Thunderbird profile folder in the Mac's Library, but that didn't work.

Can I take the Thunderbird folder from the Mac's Library on the unaffected computer and simply copy-and-paste to the affected computer? When I tried looking up other help articles about doing this, I'm reading warnings that this action could negatively affect the emails on the good computer.

I also want to ensure that I'm copying the emails from the good computer, and not exporting them, thus removing them from the good computer. I want to continue having the same emails on two computers.

I'm also open to other suggestions for how to retrieve my lost emails.

Thanks in advance for responses on this.

Hi, I have 3 gmail accounts and after my PC crashed I can't restore my emails at all. When I try it says "Incoming server already exists". Sometimes it says my Java is disconnected and I don't know how to check it. Please help, Kind regards, Nnick.

I have about 30,000 messages in a local folder on TB. I need to move them to an IMAP folder on my outlook.com account. I have been able to move some but TB just stops moving the files randomly. I have tried: creating a new TB profile Moving small batches Creating a new destination folder on the IMAP account Granting all permissions to destination folder Reindexing TB Compacting the Local folder Checking/Changing SMTP server settings Read everything I could find in various forums There are 'services' that claim to do this for you but require me to grant permissions I am uncomfortable with Thanks for any wisdom you can offer to resolve this.

When i am typing a text in thunderbird and then pressing the return key, the cursor springs always in the next paragrph ( 2 lines under ), but i want it only to go to the next line. When i choose text it always changes by pressing the return key to paragraph. How can i change this ungraceful habit of thunderbird?

On startup, emails automatically download but a blank modal immediately covers the email list (see attached) and renders it inaccessible. Menus are still responsive -- I was able to install an update. I've tried safe mode, but it makes no difference.

Thunderbird 60.9.1 Mac OS 12.1

Hello,

after bug 1866098 and the associated update stop, I can no longer update Thunderbird via the internal update process because it cannot find newer versions. I am asking since the bug seems to be resolved with 123.

How can I update my Thunderbird to 123.0b+?

Thank you very much Martin

Since setting up a new computer with Windows 11, I find that emails in the sent folder if of the same subject to the same person are sort of threaded, if you know what I mean ie

"from Maddy​2 messages

   TuesdayJoy Dean
   -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: Chris's neck issue Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 20:17:44 +0000 (UTC) From: Madeleine May <madeleinemay4@aol.co.uk> To: Joy Dean <jsdean47@aol.com>, Madeleine May <madeleinemay4@aol.com> Poor Chris. Hope the hospital appointment gets to the bottom…
   09:21Joy Dean
   Chris had a call from Bournemouth Hospital on Thursday asking if he could go there Friday morning, to Outpatients ENT. The latest time would be 10.30am so he chose that! We both went to the Outpatients Department. The staff were very pleasant. A doctor examined his neck, his throat, and put a c…"

But the emails cannot be seen individually. Can anyone help resolve this, please? This did not happen in Windows 10. Thank you.

Thunderbird 102.7.0, 64-bit, Windows 10.

I just fell over this today but it may have been around for a while.

I have lots of email accounts. It was great when TB starting properly supporting a per-account (outbound) SMTP server, however, this seems to have newly broken. I fell over it today, but I don't reboot things for ages so I cannot pinpoint the start.

Here's the issue.

I have accounts on many mail servers, many on the same (mainly att.net, and gmail.com, as it happens).

Each one of them, to send mail, wants me to log in with an individual sending address. Fair enough. This used to work just fine.

However, suddenly, just the att.net addresses are broken. What *seems* to be happening is that the same, single login address is being used for all N accounts. Naturally, this breaks when the login address doesn't match the one on the From: line. So I have to futz around, fiddle around, and so on, and then things work. (I.E. I change the TB settings so that the outbound SMTP auth login matches the From: line, have to re-enter the password, and only then will the message be sent.) So if I have two accounts, x@att.net and y@att.net, only one of them (at a time) "works" with att.net - it's whatever I successfully used last. If I sent mail from x@, this address is being used (and it's in the account settings field. over-riding what was there before), even if I send mail from y@. Or z@. Etc. If I change the SMTP auth address to y@, then that account works perfectly, but x@ doesn't. And so on.

Now the weird part is this: my Gmail addresses still work perfectly. I can send from all of them without changing a thing.

The only thing I can see is that Gmail is set up to use oAuth, and att.net is set up to use 'normal password' (via SSL, so I'm not that bothered about security).

Did I unknowingly manage to break something? Is there a new tweak? Help!

Jonathan

Hello, have any of you encountered such a problem as different email content than it should be? On the main server the content is correct, only through the thunderbird application I encountered such a problem. Is there any solution to this problem ?

My Mozilla Thunderbird Crashes since I did a windows update

The following was done 1. Start thunderbird in safe mode 2. Disable anti virus software (Malwarebytes/Bitdefender) 3. Update thunerbird 4. Uninstall and reinstall mozilla thunderbird

Nothing has solved the problem

Crash data below:

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This report also contains technical information about the state of the application when it crashed.

For some time Thunderbird crashes quite often. One reason seems to be Chinese characters in an email I try to open. But it also crashes on other occasions. Several times a day.

https://crash-stats.mozilla.org/report/index/91bb470b-d99f-483e-bb11-209c40221113#allthreads

One of the reasons I preferred reading my Gmail messages on Thunderbird is that it kept each message independent, while Gmail would link them together and hide the contents of the older messages. I have hated using the Gmail interface because I had problems find emails that I clearly remembered reading. Now, It appears that Thunderbird has adopted Gmail's horrible display method and now I can't find emails that I know that I received. I hope that there is a setting somewhere that allows me to undo this. I looked, but I could not find any.

Hello, I have NEVER had problems with [Currently using:Thunderbird 60.9.1 (32-bit). Can I update to current Thunderbird with no problems?] Or - simply NOT fool around and stay with the above version?

Thank you, P. Mitchell

Since I too am having many problems with passwords I wonder if I were to reinstall TB if that would solve the problem. Is there any way to save my contacts before I do a reinstall so that my contacts/addresses are easily replaced after the reinstall? Or am I not going to fix the password problem by doing a reinstall?