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I get a message like this every time I start Thunderbird. The topic came up last year but the conclusion was along the lines of "...this problem will be fixed in version 128" but it was never clear whether or not the User followed Mozilla's support replies or what they had to do to clear the email message from Thunderbird. .....Well I'm running version 128.1.1esr and the problem still exists.

My questions:

1. What is Thunderbird trying to do? Compact individual email files? Compae from ct the whole Thunderbird Profiles folder?

2. Is the problem the size of the Profiles folder or the overall size of the hard drive the Profiles folder resides on? What is the Hard/solidstate drive is the maximum?

3. Is the problem related to the amount of Free Space left on the Hard/solidstate drive or is the issue the number of individual files?

4. Is the issue related to the number of Thunderbird files and/or folders OR is it related to the total number of files and/or folders on the hard drive?

5. Is there a limit to the number of sub-folder levels that Thunderbird can navigate?

Thank you.

Tom

Tom O'Brien TOBrienArchitect@gmail.com

I tried to send an email and got a message saying "The message could not be sent because connections to Outgoing server (SMTP) pop3.gmail,com failed. The server may be unavailable or is refusing SMTP connections. Please verify your Outgoing server(SMTP) are correct and try again". I checked and they seem right but I cannot even send an email from one account to the other. The same message appears and I don't believe anything has been changed, aside from adding another address, that I know of.

I was using Thunderbird for Windows 10 normally for many months. Recently, whenever I launch the app it immediately freezes, and I have to force quit the application. Reinstalling the app does not fix the issue. I haven't tried deleting my profiles yet, but I would like to avoid that if possible.

Ever since I upgraded to 115.10.1 (from a much earlier version, which worked well), Thunderbird is randomly very slow.

First off, at opening time, it takes ages (over a minute) to download some incoming (small) messages - while this was definitely not the case with the previous version I was running. Sometimes, it hangs (for anywhere from 15 to 60 seconds) while I am typing a message.

Also, e.g. today, I tried to send an email (250 KB or so): it just kept on saying "sending". When I clicked (after a few minutes) to stop the sending, the window closed without further ado and I couldn't find the message anywhere (not in the Drafts, not in the Sent). I did it again, it then hung on copying the message to the "sent" folder. When it finally said it failed, and asked if I wanted to have it copied to a local folder, I clicked "yes". Upon checking, it had stored it in the "sent" messages, not locally...

I am running Windows 10 Pro, with ample memory and disk space, and a fiber optics connection. The CPU is not overloaded at all nor any other ressource.

It is becoming increasingly annoying.

How do I figure out what is interfering with Thunderbird printing? I can start in safe mode and it will detect the printer and print but then I lose formatting I like on the home page.

I have accounts from Outlook Mail through GoDaddy and Gmail on my Thunderbird desktop app. After the update on 9/17/24 I am unable to send from any of my 3 accounts. Please help.

Last night (9/23/2024), Thunderbird began presenting a screen (see attached) requiring me to sign in to contine to Mozilla Thunderbird Email. At the top of the screen is a "Sign in with Google" line. However, there is nowhere to sign into anything. My correct email is displayed but no entry for a password.

Clicking "Next" takes you to an Error 400 screen. There is no "Close" button and the only way out of the screen is to hit "Esc," which takes me to my Email account. After a short bit, the screen refreshes back to that " sign in to contine to Mozilla Thunderbird" screen. After one or two more uses of :Esc, I can get back control of my laptop.

Meanwhile, Thunderbird is frozen--mail doesn't update, and any attempt to use T-Bird returns me to the sign in cycle. Win 11; TB ver, 128.2.3esr (32-bit); server security imap.gmail.com, port 993, outgoing server smtp.google.com, authentication OAuth2. I've accepted cookies and javascript and closed my VPN. can't figure what to do next.

When I open Thunderbird (Mozilla), my files are not current. In other words, the most recent emails, probably since the last time I used Thunderbird, in my file folders are missing. I have tried changing the server settings but I think they are correct. Please be patient with me, I am unfamiliar with all the terminology, etc. Also, when I first enter Thunderbird, it does not recognize my password. A window opens with the message "Login to server imap.postoffice.net with username john.fn@usa.net failed." That message also appears when I click on Get Messages. Thanks for any help.

Thanks to the unnecessary and pointless meddling of Microsoft I am not unable to send or receive e-mails via Thunderbird. I constantly receive "log in failure message". When asked to re-enter the appropriate password I enter the never ending merry-go-round......I have 6 addresses. Whilst it is possible to access then via their specific accounts held with Microsoft this is time consuming,hence the preference of Thunderbirdb which up until now has been trouble free for approx 15 years. This unnecessary development makes me wonder why I only need a user naame aand password to access via Microsoft. I have tried every method kindly provided by other users to no avail. Can anyone provide the correct server setting for both IMAP and SMTP? As I have said these 'new' authentification/s are in my opinion tantamount to using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut. I hope my explantion makes sense? Surely I cannot be alone?

I'm on a M1 Mac Mini running Sonoma 14.6.1, and my Thunderbird quit several times. I restarted and this time it isn't coming up at all. I'm going to try shutting down and then starting up after a few minutes. It started after I made a new Folder n TB and put a file into it from Experian.

TB 128.3 did not work in Mac OS 15.0 Sequoia. So I called Apple, and they helped me re-install TB. It works fine now, but the layout looks weird. Instead of

Subject of message on left sender in middle date on right

I now get

Subject of message on left sender underneath date on right

How can I fix it? It is using a lot of white space around everything

Thank you

E.

Hi, tbird 128.3.0 esr 64b w11p. A prob new to me. Only for MS outlook mail (aka office365 email, but no ofc365 on my laptop, just the email in tbird). -in unified folder view, my MS mail acct (it still has the "hotmail.com" address, but works), is not present -- that's the problem. A workaround is that I can choose both "unified" and "all" views together -- but while the MS mail acct now appears in the folder pane at the top, as well as in its own "place" at the "accounts" area below, that MS mail acct not longer has its messages appearing in the "message list" pane. I have to go to MS Mail's own place below, in the folder pane (as stated above),to see its msgs. in msg pane.

 I could use the "all" view, but it's not as nice & I never have had to choose that before this prob.

- I did run "repair folder" for MS mail's own inbox (again, below, in its own place below, in folder pane, accts). And I restarted t-bird.No change in behavior, unified view does NOT list my hotmail emails.

I have used & am comfortable w/config ed, but only when I have the proper instructions you may post in your potential reply (I am not a coder).

Please advise, thank you.

What is meaning of the blue bar meter in the bottom right corner? It is stuck in half. After clicking on it the Activity Manager pops up, but with no actual info. If it brings some info about actual processing of data, it should display such info.

When I right click on a document [Show More Options/Send To] Thunderbird email I get the following notice: There is no email program associated to perform the requested action. Please install an email or, if one is already installed, create an association in the Default Programs panel. I've been using TB for multiple years with zero problems, this started when I recently reloaded Windows 11 from scratch (due to a bot virus issue). I have reloaded TB 3 or 4 times. I have also tried creating an association to MapiMail which hosed my Send To link. I had to import a new Send To link from my wifes PC after restoring the registry entry for MapiMail. I have always used the 64 bit version, so the 32 bit version is not for me. I am out of ideas? Anybody else have this problem?

Thunderbird stopped working and crashes at startup. It fails also in safemode. Any idea?

Detailed information below:

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This report also contains technical information about the state of the application when it crashed.

Hi everyone,

Long time, happy TB user and supporter. A new problem has appeared with nebula that I am hoping that the experts here can help me troubleshoot.

When any operation is performed on the emails in one particular account's Inbox folder, there is a 3-5 second pause where TB freezes. For example, when I try to open an email, I see a blank email tab with `Loading Message...` for a few seconds, before the email shows; when I toggle the read status for an email in the folder by clicking on the gray/green icon, there is a few seconds' delay. During this pause I can hear my CPU fan speed up, so seems like there is a spike in CPU usage. After a few minutes, these delays go away, but then reappear at some point (even though TB has been open the entire time) - possibly after new email has been downloaded from the server.

My overall suspicion is that something in this particular folder's files is triggering Nebula. I need help figuring out what it is and fixing it. This is not bad enough for me to ditch TB but it's definitely annoying AF. Strange part is that it appeared only after the Nebula upgrade, which makes me think this is a code issue not a mailbox file issue.

Setup

1. Thunderbird 128.3.3esr (64-bit) on Windows 11 23H2
2. Multiple mailbox accounts, all using POP3 (not IMAP; there is no interaction between TB and the server other than downloading email). Had not changed any settings during the nebula upgrade
3. The account in question has multiple folders in TB. Filters are used to move messages from the Inbox to different folders (and sometimes, to folders on other accounts). Again, the slow performance is only on the single, Inbox folder in one account, and not any of the other folders or other accounts.
4. Profile files are on a very fast SSD. I have not been able to detect a peak in disk usage when the pause happens.
5. The affected folder has 32K emails in it, size on disk 1.5G (+27M for `.msf` file). I have another folder which is 3.1G+20M, that one does not have this problem.

Here's what I have tried, with no changes

1. Compact all mailboxes
2. Repair folder for all folders/subfolders
3. Delete the GLODA to force a rebuild
4. Troubleshooting mode
5. Watching the console in developer tools (no relevant errors appear)
6. Turning on `browser.dom.window.dump.enabled` - no significant errors appear
7. Turning off hardware acceleration
8. Updating graphics card drivers
9. Ensuring that the TB profile folder and windows temp folder is not being indexed by Windows search
10. Checking the filter logs - no errors

Any suggestions or tips on how to gather more data, are welcome. Thanks!

I either can't view contents of any of my older emails in Thunderbird at all (see accompanying picture), or in some cases, they just show html text code. (Both the inbox and sent directories are affected.) I have followed the Thunderbird troubleshooting suggestions (e.g. disabling add-ons), and clearing the cache, but the problem remains.

My Thunderbird mail directory on the PC is D:\All Users\Thunderbird\Profiles\Macdonald\Mail\pop.broadband.rogers.com\inbox.sbd

FYI - The inbox contains ~7600 messages, while Sent has ~2180 messages.

Hope you can help me out with this issue. Thanks!

... Paul Macdonald

The app can be opened and used, but it has to load for about 2 minuter between each input. The error first appeared after the 7th August update. When I try and click on the app, it starts using about 125 MB of RAM memory and the "Not responding" text appears.

Thunderbird Quick Filter Toolbar has suddenly started splashing a couple popups when I start typing in the filter box. These popups effectively say "... click to..." but don't actually let me click; they just block the screen.