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I have no usable Menu options at the top of the Thunderbird email screen. I hit a wrong key yesterday and things such as Write, Reply, Print, Send, Delete, Junk, etc. have disappeared. I read some possible things to help but I do not have III on the upper right of my screen and pressing Alt when opening Thunderbird also does not work. HELP!

I've been running Tbird on Windows for many years. About 2 weeks ago something changed, either in Tbird or at Microsoft, which stops me from sending to the Office 365 SMTP server. I can send and receive using Outlook on the Office website, but I can't send locally from Tbird. Error message screenshot herewith. I have tried every possible permutation of server settings, which currently are:

Server name: smtp.office365.com Port: 587 Security: START/TLS Authentication: OAuth2

MS support says these are correct, and they are at wits' end to understand what is going on. They asked me to ask Tbird support, so I am.

I should add that at about the same time I started getting SMTP rejections in Gmail on my Android phone, and miraculously that was corrected yesterday, without any action from me. There is something odd going on at Microsoft - does anyone know what it is? My other accounts on Tbird work fine of course.

I'm trying to help an elderly friend move from Eudora OSE to Thunderbird. I found this closed thread on the forum - and I want to know 'how to back up the Eudora OSE Profile' - or any other help you can give re migrating from Eudora OSE to Thunderbird. (She has thousands of old emails.)

The tech person said,

"May I suggest, back up your OSE Profile, and give it a try.

And the other replied: "I took the tech's suggestion Backed up Euroda files and simply installed Thunderbird VOILA ! When I launched Thunderbird it simply accessed the same files and file structure (and settinge/etc) as Eudora and I didn't have to do anything ... awesome !"

Hello, I have recently changed my Host and in the process of trying to reconfigure my server details for my new mail account I accidentally removed my account, thereby losing all mails and folders including my customer database, which leaves me feeling bereft.

Looking at similar questions it seems that it is possible to restore the lost mails and folders but unfortunately I am not that savy with this stuff and find it all rather difficult and scary.

Are there any step by step instructions on how I can restore my account or simply get access to my lost mails and folders ?

Thank you very much for any assistance.

Ray

Hi, I have just changed my hosting company. I reconfigured my server settings and now I have TWO mailboxes: ray@raysloan.com (this is the one I want!) and another ray@nilgaut.o2switch.net All mails are going into the latter and this is NOT the one I want. If I look at 'settings' for raysloan.com at the top it says 'The following is a special account. There are no identities associated with it - account name ray@raysloan.com' !?

Please see the screen shots attached.

I am terrified of trying anything for fear of losing important mails. The last time something similar happened I lost all of my client information ! How can I get my primary mailbox back as my default mailbox and get rid of the ray@nilgaut.o2switch.net without losing mails ?

Thanks very much for any help.

Tonight I accidentally mistyped my password upon starting Thunderbird, so I chose "enter new password" and retyped it correctly. But now it won't download my mail, and I can't find any way to try entering the password again. (My password is not saved.) When I click "Get messages" the blue progress bar flickers at the bottom of the screen briefly but the Activity Manager remains blank. No mail is downloaded and there are no progress messages. There is also a small "null" note at bottom left, not sure whether that's related.

I have tried restarting Thunderbird several times, and restarting my computer entirely. No difference. I went into Settings / Privacy and Security and confirmed that there is no password saved. None of the settings have been changed. But I'm not getting an error message when I try to download mail, it's not doing anything at all (aside from the brief flicker of the progress bar).

I tried sending a test message and got the error "Sending of the message failed. The message could not be sent because connecting to Outgoing server (SMTP) smtp.theworld.com failed. The server may be unavailable or is refusing SMTP connections. Please verify that your Outgoing server (SMTP) settings are correct and try again." But none of my settings have changed. I can access my mail via web server so there isn't a problem with the ISP. But answering mail that way is really clumsy and time-consuming. I need my Thunderbird!

I am using Thunderbird 102.12.0 with Windows 10 Pro. I have been a happy Thunderbird user for many years (since 2015 I think) and have never encountered this problem before. I really hope you can tell me how to solve it, I am aware of several time-sensitive messages in my mailbox and I can't download anything. Thanks very much for your time!

Hi, In TB 102 the menu toolbar was still above the button toolbar, if I am not mistaken. In TB 115 this seems to have changed... I could not find a way to customize it back as it was. Pointers anyone ? Thank you.

Last night I created a new profile in an attempt to fix a problem with downloading mail. (It turned out to be on the ISP's end.) Tonight I briefly opened two copies of Thunderbird, one with the old/original profile and one with the new profile, to make sure the download would work. I was able to download my new mail to the original profile, so I moved last night's mail from the new inbox to my original inbox in the new profile, and then deleted the new profile since I don't need it. But now the past six months' worth of mail is missing from both my inbox and my sent folder! They both jump from June 13 to yesterday. I noticed it when I had the two copies open next to each other (those messages were missing in both copies), but thought maybe it was a merge problem and hoped they would be restored when I deleted the second profile. But they weren't. I absolutely did not delete all those messages and many of them are really important. Where did they go and how can I get them back? Help!!!

p.s. Sadly I haven't backed up in a while... :-(

I recently installed Thunderbird on a new computer.I set it up to use my Yahoo account. It does receive emails sent to Yahoo but will not send. Every time i click SEND it asks for a password and always says it failed.

Under settings, there are 2 servers, IMAP and SMTP. Each has a different password, but at one point I made them the same. It does not matter because the outgoing server keeps changing its password to about 20 random letter and characters. At one point I copied these random characters into the clipboard and posted it in after it asked for a password...and it still FAILS.

I am using version 81.0.19 Until I get this fixed it is useless. An annoying thing is that each time I start Thunderbird, it asks for the password...on my previous pc it remembered it. Both machines are Windows 10. Can anyone help?

TB working fine, then next day opens up as Blank screen and a setup tab Profile shows to be still there as do mail folders .... so need to recreate profile.

Created a new Profile I copied over the folders:

 IMAPmail
 Mail

and the following files

 key3.db
 logins.json
 cert8.db

and all of the pref.js files (1 through to 141)

The profile folder does show new profile active ( as per this pic https://flic.kr/p/2pjRyRz)

I created the 2 IMAP account login details, I now have access to the inbox for 2 IMAP account, but I do not have any the filed mail (local folders) how do I get these back. This is an important item for me as many years of filed emails.

I just upgraded to version 102.1.2 and almost all is working fine. However, when I go to my Newsgroups I now need to enter Username and Password.

I have checked the "Use Password Manger to remember this password." It works for that time but then a few minutes later I need to do it all over again!!!

Then when I try to go to Tools>Options>Privacy & Security>Passwords the "Options" link does NOT exist!!!

In all the years of using Thunderbird this has never happened before on a Upgrade to a new version.

Is there a fix for this in another update or is there something I am missing??

Thanks,

Les

I've been running TB38/linux for a long time and have many extensions and .css entries. In order to comply with gmail's upcoming OAuth2 requirement, I just installed TB91 and copied over the contents of my TB38 profile into the newly-created profile.

Imagine my disgust to find that none of my .css entries (mostly involving fonts not dealt with in the preferences) and most of my extensions and colors are inoperative. I've been tweaking TB since it was Netscape .9 and appearance and LEGIBILITY (Arial bold) is really important for something that I use for many hours per day. Quite frankly, I hate this new version. If I have to I will use it in order to avoid losing my SORTED email going back to 1995, but I'll do it resentfully.

It has been my experience that with each update I lose something of value to me -- hence my stop at V38. What is the oldest version of Thunderbird/linux that will satisfy gmail's OAuth2 requirement?

I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering...

Hello! I have the grey/italic problem that has been reported often here as well. I tried these solutions, but they didn't help: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1293067 https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1246828

I contacted the support of my email provider and he said that the problem is TB and not the IMAP server and I think he is right because logging in on the web the folder structure is fine and all messages are there.

so the final solutions was to reinstall TB. I did this first without deleting my user profile from the folder "roaming", but the problem persisted just the same way, and then I deleted the entire user profiles folder and the issue still exists. this means to me that this wasn't yet a clean new installation so that TB creates the folder structure completely new. To me It seems to me that TB is storing some information still on another location. Might this be?

So, how do I force TB to completely load from scratch the folder structure and it's content?

Best,

Wolfram

This is my first post. But I have been reading and benefiting from all the expertise I have found here for many years! Thanks to all!

Trying to plan ahead for the Gmail OAUTH2 change, I upgraded to Tbird 91.9.0.

My Account Settings all transferred to the new version. I do have multi Gmail accounts, as well as other email accounts, but from other posts here, this should matter.

While I am a long term Tbird user, I am a newbie with OAUTH2. I can't seem to connect. So I am writing here for help!

My setup: - Dell notebook running W10 - internet connection strong - am using a Netgear Nighthawk Hotspot Router, which works great with

    everything else, so I really doubt that is an issue

- testing without a firewall; running McAfee - resetting Tbird account back to "Normal Password", then Gmail connects

Incoming Server set to IMAP: imap.gmail.com:993 w SSL/TLS and OAuth2 Outgoing: smtp.gmail.com:465 w SSL/TLS and OAuth2

I have been consistently testing with the same gmail account: - YES, I know my password; it works with both the Gmail web interface,

   or after going back to "Normal Password" instead of OAUTH2

- allow any Alert emails via Gmail Web Interface, repeatedly. - Ran Captcha ... many times! In case someone else reading here needs this, it is here: https://accounts.google.com/b/0/DisplayUnlockCaptcha and you must be logged into the Gmail Web Interface when running this. I have learned to take a pause after running this, for it do its thing.

If Toad-Hall is reading this, I found your list of steps here very helpful: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1375558 Worth repeating for others who are struggling, like me.

As recommended here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1373706 Cookies: all cleared Remembered Passwords: all cleared

Also looked at this: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1375702 Originally, my cookies WERE blocked. I did need to change my Web Content as recommended in this post:

   Selected: Remember web sites and links I've visited
   Selected: Accept cookies from sites
   Accept third-party cookies: Always
   Keep until : they expire
   Not selected: 'Send web sites 'Do not track'..... 

Also: In Privacy and Security -> Web content -> Exceptions, added: https://accounts.google.com set to 'Allow' and Saved Changes. Then exit Tbird, took a short pause, started Tbird again, per the advice to properly update the files.

Should I be doing BOTH of these? This post shows options: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/automatic-conversion-google-mail-accounts-oauth20 So if I Select to accept cookies, should I also set the Exception??? I have tested various combinations of these settings, but not seeing a cookie.

In Tbird, when testing to connect, I see:

"Sign in with your Google Account" Enter my account password (I see an error msg here when I typo the password, no error when entered correctly) Also, have checked "Stay Signed In" while trying to Authorize, as recommended. then click Allow on the second screen.

After a few seconds, keep seeing popup in lower right corner of screen: "Authentication failure while connecting to server imap.gmail.com" Sometimes, this msg does not popup, which seems odd to me, but it still fails: Cookies: still empty Password: still empty

I keep updating and reading and updating the setups and testing again, but no cookies for me!

I admit I have gotten off track, testing and reading posts:

Thought my problem might involve Certificates for a while, but now do not think OAUTH2 is using Certificates. Right?

Thought for a bit it might be Javascript disabled, but I am NOT seeing the popup window that shows this error, from this post: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1373379 refers to: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1286410 Did find my way to Config editor: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1349136 Followed this advice: "Click the 3-bar menu icon, Preferences, and find Config. editor at the bottom of the General section. Or, type editor in the search box at the top of Preferences." Then searched for "Javascript" and found most of settings were true, like javascript.enabled is "true". Should everything that a search for javascript finds be set to true? Since I do not see the error msg, I believe this is not my problem.

Stans posted another helpful summary here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1375538 "After you've changed your accounts to OAuth2, delete all records of your Google Account passwords from Thunderbird's password vault (Saved Passwords). With OAuth2, your passwords are not stored by Tbird. Instead, an OAuth2 token (a long string of meaningless characters) is stored in the password field. That's what you should see after completing the OAuth2 process for each of your accounts. You have to do it twice, once for incoming and once for outgoing server. Also, you must allow cookies in Thunderbird's Preferences, otherwise it won't work."

If I am following this correctly, after testing to try and authenticate, I should see a Cookie and a Saved Password being created but they are not.

Think this is my problem!

In Gmail web interface, I am not sure of some settings:

In Manage Your Google Account -> Security:

1. Should Sign-in 2-step verification be on/off? (its off) 2. Third Party apps w access shows Tbird (think this is new, don't recall it before) 3. Allow Less Secure App: turn off (was On for normal pswd; either way fails w OAUTH2) (think I have tested all combinations of the above, with no success) I welcome suggestions on how I should set these to connect with OAUTH2.

I feel like I am getting close here, but I am stuck. Is there anything else, maybe something I have not heard about, like Captcha, that I should try?

Have I missed a setting somewhere? Suggestions???

Meadowlark13

I had my userCrome.css set to widen line spacing in the message list, among other things. Updating to Þb 115 broke this, and since I can't inspect the css, I don't know how to fix this again.

My current css includes:

/* Message List */

1. threadTree

treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text {

   font-size: 16pt !important;
   color: black !important

}

/* treechildren::-moz-tree-row {

   margin-top: 0pt !important;
   margin-bottom: 6pt !important;

} */

treecol:not([hideheader="true"]), treecolpicker:not([hideheader="true"]) { -moz-appearance: none !important; padding-top: 2px; padding-bottom: 2px; }

treecol:not([hideheader="true"]):hover, treecolpicker:not([hideheader="true"]):hover { }

I tried relaxed density, but it expands *everything*, not just the message list.

Also, in Firefox, how can I use this site and avoid all the animated headers?

I've been happily using Thunderbird for email for many years. Recently, the gmail OAuth2 requirement has made my POP3 accounts quit working. Currently on 38.5 for Windows 10.

Following various posts, I've tried to convert two specific email accounts to imap, and things are not going well.

My primary email is already imap and works fine. I've tried multiple times to convert the other two, and my current state is I've deleted those two accounts entirely (via Account Actions). When I try to install Existing Account, I eventually get to the point where the server config seems correct, but hitting "Done" results in the above message. I'd be surprised if imap.gmail.com can only support one email address. The emails are named differently, and use different passwords. Imap is enabled via browser based access to both accounts.

Incoming server imap.gmail.com:993 Outgoing smtp.gmail.com:465

I am getting the Mozilla Thunderbird Email wants to access your Google Account all the time while using TBM, I have removed the gmail account and the pop up does not show, so I know it is for the email account just removed. I re-add the email address and enter the email address and password and let it find the config itself. Click Done, and get the Mozilla Thunderbird Email wants to access your Google Account again, then click Allow and get the Authentication failure while connecting to server imap.gmail.com. message in the bottom left of my desktop. How can i get gmail to work again please.

I would like create a back up of my local folders (26 years of emails) in the cloud. Reading questions posted here, the recommendation is to backup the complete 'Profiles' folder. However, when I try and do so, I am not successful because at some point the backup process glitches out. (I am trying to upload the folder to a Microsoft OneDrive folder and have tried on both my PC running Windows 7 Pro and a Macbook running OS Monterey.) I suspect that my internet connection is not stable enough to copy 30 GB (about the size of the 'Profiles' folder). Is there any alternative to backing up the complete 'Profiles' folder?