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I was happily using TB 78.14.0 on Mac OS 10.9.5 and I switched to using TB 140.6 on Mac OS 12.7.4, and it's now unusably slow. I've tried: troubleshoot mode with add-ons off; compacting folders; removing and renewing msf files; emptying junk and trash. Is there anything else, or is this just a failure or incompatibility of the app? I can't see that there's any antivirus app that might be interfering. Can something go wrong when you export the files from one TB into another? I would be grateful for any suggestions. Tim

I am now getting a spinning wheel with annoying frequency while using/trying to use Thunderbird on my MacBook Air 2017 running Monterey. Everything was fine for the first 6-9 months, but over recent months the spinning wheel has appeared more and more frequently while I'm trying to read mail, answer mail, scroll through messages, etc., etc. Now it comes up every few minutes and delays me doing anything for about 15-30 seconds at a time. It's really frustrating. I recently ran Onyx, which was designed to clear cache, etc and make everything run smoothly. But the only program it required me to quit before it started was Thunderbird. Is there some cache or something I need to clear on a (semi-) regular basis to keep it working at a reasonable speed without this godforsaken spinning wheel interrupting everything? Thanks for any/all your help.

Hi I was using TB 142 without problems. When upgrading to 143 ou 144.B4 I have problems sending mails to all users after some times. Usually the first mails are sent immediatly but after around 10 mails, I have very slow response (varies from 5 sec to more than 1 minute and sometimes timeout). Usually quitting TB solves the problem but this is very annoying. I went back to 140LTS and sems to have no longer this problem. This was tested on many diffrent networks. I am running under Fedora release 42

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I noticed this morning that my Thunderbird tree no longer had a Junk folder. I restarted the program and Junk appeared, with stuff in it, but right-clicking the Junk folder no longer brings up the usual list of options, including Empty Junk. Instead, right-clicking seems to temporarily slow-down or 'hang' Thunderbird, a condition it does recover from in 10 seconds or so. I can open the Junk folder, select all messages and delete them, but something isn't right. Any ideas, anyone?

Update: Realized I didn't mention the version I was running, it was 133.0.3, under Windows 10, but when I opened Help to find this I was invited to do an update... so I did. When the 'update' was complete, I checked and am now running 128.6.0esr (64-bit). That seems strange. Oh, the same Junk problem persists under the 'new' version.

Update #2: Evidently the drop-down menu does eventually appear, if you just wait for it... anywhere from 5 seconds to 30 seconds or so. Normally the right-click is instantaneous. What could have happened, I wonder?

I am using Linux Mint Cinnamon 21.3 and Thunderbird POP3 email. I have 10 email accounts.

What I have noticed is the Thunderbird 128 series startup email check and/or "get all messages" is quite slow compared to previous versions.

Thunderbird 102.15.1 took only 4 seconds to check 10 email accounts, Thunderbird 115.18.0 took 5 seconds, but Thunderbird 128 and 136 series takes 15 seconds. All of these have used the same user profiles.

There is no antivirus software active. All messages are deleted from all accounts. No messages to download and checking for messages is still slow.

I have tried the Betterbird 128 series, a fork of Thunderbird, and it too behaves the same. Betterbird 115 series work fine, just like the Thunderbird 115 series.

Is this slowness in the 128 and 136 series by design?

Recent problem, real nasty, may just have to give up on Thunderbird, at least on the Windows 10 computer.

Click on folder name in folder list, all messages previously downloaded and viewable, when the message list appears, it instantly disappears and the message list pane displays "no message found" and it proceeds to download the entire message list all over again. For some folders with over a hundred thousand messages, this is unacceptable, obviously.

Thunderbird just updated to 144.0.1 (64-bit), and now I see a blank area where message list used to be. This true for all accounts and all folders.

I used to see this issue temporarily after compacting folders, but usually (but not always) went away and messages showed up. Sometimes I had to close and restart TB. Now even that wont bring up the lists. I'm dead in the water. And, yes, I did reboot my computer as well. Screenshot of this state attached.

Thanks for any help--it's urgent. Bert

Hi all,

I've been using Thunderbird for eons but yesterday morning it started freezing up constantly.

It freezes up ("Thunderbird is not responding") every time new emails are received or any time I take any action while the Inbox folder is open. So, if I delete an email it freezes for a few minutes. If I do anything pretty much, it freezes up for a few minutes. Then it comes back and I can do another action, and it freezes again. This only seems to be happening when I have the Inbox open - if I go to other folders it seems to function normally.

Things I've tried without success: - Troubleshooting mode - Adding exceptions for my profile folders to Windows Defender - Compressing Inbox (and Trash and Junk) - Repairing the Inbox index

This doesn't appear to be a memory issue - right now, memory use for my entire system seems to be hovering at just over 50%. But Thunderbird is still freezing.

My Inbox folder is very large, but it's never been an issue before and nothing significant was added yesterday when it started failing.

Any suggestions appreciated!

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Under no circumstances is thunderbird loading a profile (existing or newly built).No crash report. Completely empty. New installed program and/or new installed post boxes + copied Mail-folders from existing profiles into a new profile will work once or twice or a few more times. At least next day TB starts only complete empty. I tried to fix it many times - using corresponding different forums.

Imagine having more than 30 Accounts to be added on a single profile my concern is how will Thunderbird handles file size if it's using one file (MBOX) and if the file has no solution, can I create files and keep mails on them until they reach max size?

Once I delete a message, T-bird (147.0.4 on W11 Pro) begins compacting, and then I'm stuck until it's done. This is new behavior. Previously the system compacted occasionally, but now it's every single time I delete something from the inbox (which happens frequently during the day, of course, sigh).

Anyway, many thanks in advance for help/guidance and if it matters, I'm one of those who contributes monetarily for use versus freeloading. Also, no, we don't believe updating to the latest version is productive for our situation so I hope this is not the solutuion. -- Regards,

Thunderbird 128.5.2esr (32-bit) Odd problem in that just one folder was being identified as not being able to be compacted because of Disk Space....not true, plenty of space as I keep it regularly cleaned. I can clear the issue by making another folder of a different name, copying all messages to that folder then running COMPACT on the new folder and nothing is amiss. Run it on the original problem folder and no issues. Delete the original folder and create another with the same old name and transfer the messages to the now new originally named folder. Delete the TEMP folder. Then run a COMPACT on the problem folder and no issues.

Then run compact on the whole message tree and sure enough the COMPACT issue has now moved to a different folder. I suspect you could chase this thing till the cows come home but won't resolve, just moves it from folder to folder.

Now I could just kill Thunderbird and reinstall but this is intriging. Not sure if that would help. Ran TROUBLESHOOT MODE clean with out the only extension I use and no change. Stumped.

Thanks!

Hi,

I'm on a fresh Windows and the CPU usage is waaaaay too big. When TB is out of focus, it uses about 10% of my CPU. This can go up to 15% when the window is active. It's not doing anything, not downloading or compacting or anything.

Thanks !

I've been using Thunderbird for many years, and its up to date. I've had more and more problems with choppy response times lately. It "freezes" for short periods where the interface stops responding for half a minute, or a minute or so before I can do anything. It always comes back (never crashes, shuts down). Today was some of the worst where it was minutes before I could start using it.

My junk and trash folders are empty, and I've done a compression and run the cleanup operation on a bunch of folders. My Inbox is empty. I only have 2 pop accounts. Its not when its retrieving or sending email though.

I have been using thunderbird for a few years now on win 10. Just had to buy a new win 11 system and successfully installed it. transferred my emails, folders and contacts and all seemed to work fine. Now I notice that once I leave it for a few mins, it is unresponsive with just a blue circle where the curser should be. I close it and re open and all is fine again for a few mins. I have tried turning off my antivirus software and disconnecting from the internet but still the same fault. Any ideas please?

Greetings!!

I started getting the most bizarre problem over the last couple of days from Thunderbird. Suddenly, for certain emails (not all of them), Thunderbird will start truncating the email. The email just stops loading partway through, and the email is not marked as read as it usually is. There is no progress bar at the bottom to indicate that the email is still loading. But, if I view the message source (via the View menu), the whole email is there. It typically happens with emails with either images or ones that fetch some sort of dynamic content.

I've repaired folders, rebuilt summary files, removed parent.lock, restored a backup of both program and message files from two days prior to the problem starting, reinstalled my current version of Thunderbird, rebooted the computer by holding the power button down for a minute, tried Thunderbird Troubleshoot mode, tried Windows 10 Safe Mode, disabled all add-ons, cleared my cache (under disk space), cleared my startup cache, created a new profile, compacted folders, and (temporarily) gave it a free pass through my Firewall. Nothing had any effect.

The Thunderbird Error console doesn't show anything in particular different between emails that load fully and those that do not.

To say I am at my wit's end is an understatement. Is there some sort of simple solution I am totally missing, by any chance? Thank you for any assistance!!!

I have been having much trouble with Thunderbird. The latest problem is with the Sent folder. When I try to Compact Folders I get the message "The folder 'Sent on Local' could not be compacted because writing to folder failed. Verify that you have enough disk space, and that you have write privileges to the file system, then try again."

I have plenty of disk space and have Full Control. I tried creating a temporary folder and moving all the Sent messages to it, so that Sent had zero messages. I still got the same message. The file listing showed Sent to have a size of 182 MB even though it didn't contain any messages. I've tried deleting sent.msf to force Thunderbird to recreate the index - didn't work. I tried using Repair Folder. That worked, but when I tried Compacting Folders again it found another folder with the same problem. I fixed that one and then it said the Sent folder was bad once again. I'm going around in circles!

I've deleted and recreated scores of .msf files for various reasons, trying to get Thunderbird to work without errors, but as soon as I get one problem fixed, another one crops up. I'd conclude that it's my computer, except that I'm not having any problems with other programs.

Any thoughts on this particular problem or Thunderbird problems in general? Thanks.

I've been using Thunderbird for probably 10 years or more. My current version is 140.1.0esr (32-bit) - unsure when this was updated from previous version. My pc is a 64-bit pc so I'm unsure why I'm running the 32 bit version of Thunderbird.

Starting today, when I click on the New Message button, nothing happens except the button seems to register the mouse click with a slight change in appearance. Usually this would open up a blank email but I currently can't write a new email until this is resolved.

Turning off Anti-virus makes no difference. I've tried a PC restart also with no effect.

Any ideas what I can try please?

I have just upgraded to Thunderbird 102.15.1 on my laptop and have a problem with right-click menus on folder names.

The menu appears for a brief instant and then disappears. If I move the mouse cursor slightly then it is redrawn and behaves normally.

Is this a known problem, i.e. requiring a further upgrade?

Hello, I am unable to see my email messages in the panel. I do see the number of emails that I have, but unable to open anything. Has something major happened with Thunderbird? The email function was working fine and the next morning, all of my messages in the panel disappeared.

I'd appreciate any immediate feedback. Thank you.