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Delay moving messages to and from 4 certain mailboxes (win10, v152)

It's very odd. Normally moving an email, say from the Inbox to the relevant year's archive, takes "no time at all". Which is true for all the mailboxes shown on the attac… (read more)

It's very odd. Normally moving an email, say from the Inbox to the relevant year's archive, takes "no time at all".

Which is true for all the mailboxes shown on the attached screenshot, EXCEPT for the four at the bottom. Moving even one message from Inbox to Yiddish can take ten seconds or longer (with the dreaded "Not Responding" occasionally). Moving something in the opposite direction is also screwy, only from those four.

I had thought that it was because they're rather large. This first started when there were just Yiddish and MSW, and I split off most of the earlier years into the archives shown. To no avail.

It's only an annoyance, but I'm puzzled about how such a thing could happen.

Also very slow tagging or untagging a message just in those mailboxes.

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Thunderbird hangs my computer/machine periodically (rarely) whilst messages are being retrieved.

Thunderbird causes my machine to 'hang' from time to time, 1. often for up to a second and usually a number of times in quick succession on each ocasion. Sometimes this … (read more)

Thunderbird causes my machine to 'hang' from time to time,

1. often for up to a second and usually a number of times in quick succession on each ocasion. Sometimes this happens frequently - say every 5 or 10 minutes - sometimes only after an hour or more since the past occurrance.

2. My machine hangs completely - nothing will work, mouse, keyboard, sound, other apps etc. If I happen to be typing (into any app - including Thunderbird - when this happens, input ceases, the cursor freezes and - if the problem persists for a second or two, Windows reports "[app] is not responding"

3. I cannot be certain, but I believe the problem occurs whilst messages are being retrieved.

This is a very serious problem as it means that I can never leave TB running as the problems it causes are not acceptable.

4. This means I cannot deal with incoming messages without periodically re-starting TB - which is an utter PIA.

I am running Win 11 Professional on a 2-year old machine with 64 Gb of memory. I have run TB in Troubleshoot mode, I have confirmed that the problem occurs regardless or whatever other apps are running (or none) and I have proven conclusively that no other app causes any kind of similar problem.

Looking forward yto hearing if others have had the same issue and what can be done about it.

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slow Thunderbird

I was happily using TB 78.14.0 on Mac OS 10.9.5 and I switched to using TB 140.6 on Mac OS 12.7.4, and it's now unusably slow. I've tried: troubleshoot mode with add-ons … (read more)

I was happily using TB 78.14.0 on Mac OS 10.9.5 and I switched to using TB 140.6 on Mac OS 12.7.4, and it's now unusably slow. I've tried: troubleshoot mode with add-ons off; compacting folders; removing and renewing msf files; emptying junk and trash. Is there anything else, or is this just a failure or incompatibility of the app? I can't see that there's any antivirus app that might be interfering. Can something go wrong when you export the files from one TB into another? I would be grateful for any suggestions. Tim

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Spinning wheel

I am now getting a spinning wheel with annoying frequency while using/trying to use Thunderbird on my MacBook Air 2017 running Monterey. Everything was fine for the first… (read more)

I am now getting a spinning wheel with annoying frequency while using/trying to use Thunderbird on my MacBook Air 2017 running Monterey. Everything was fine for the first 6-9 months, but over recent months the spinning wheel has appeared more and more frequently while I'm trying to read mail, answer mail, scroll through messages, etc., etc. Now it comes up every few minutes and delays me doing anything for about 15-30 seconds at a time. It's really frustrating. I recently ran Onyx, which was designed to clear cache, etc and make everything run smoothly. But the only program it required me to quit before it started was Thunderbird. Is there some cache or something I need to clear on a (semi-) regular basis to keep it working at a reasonable speed without this godforsaken spinning wheel interrupting everything? Thanks for any/all your help.

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*cannot move or delete messages from Inbox.* Safe and Troubleshoot Mode do not help. And "Inbox on redacted@sfu.ca' could not be compacted because writing to folder failed. Verify that you have enough disk space, and that you have write privileges"

Hi. I have over 20,000 messages in my Inbox. I've been sometimes having trouble moving messages into folders, so I thought it would be a good idea to reduce the number … (read more)

Hi. I have over 20,000 messages in my Inbox. I've been sometimes having trouble moving messages into folders, so I thought it would be a good idea to reduce the number of messages in my Inbox. But I can't delete or move messages in the Inbox. When I select messages and enter command to move them to a folder, or ask to delete them, nothing happens. I am a Thunderbird supporter, and I love this program. Thanks for your work! Any advice appreciated. Connie

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Thunderbird very slow to send emails (Fedora) starting with 143.0. 142.0 and 140esr do not have this problem.

Hi I was using TB 142 without problems. When upgrading to 143 ou 144.B4 I have problems sending mails to all users after some times. Usually the first mails are sent imme… (read more)

Hi I was using TB 142 without problems. When upgrading to 143 ou 144.B4 I have problems sending mails to all users after some times. Usually the first mails are sent immediatly but after around 10 mails, I have very slow response (varies from 5 sec to more than 1 minute and sometimes timeout). Usually quitting TB solves the problem but this is very annoying. I went back to 140LTS and sems to have no longer this problem. This was tested on many diffrent networks. I am running under Fedora release 42

Thanks

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Mails will not open in Mail-Window

Hi! When I click on an Email in the Email-list it will not open in the Mailwindow. Also it will not be marked as read. Same thing with doupleclicking the Mail. It will op… (read more)

Hi!

When I click on an Email in the Email-list it will not open in the Mailwindow. Also it will not be marked as read. Same thing with doupleclicking the Mail. It will open the Mail-Tab but it is empty and the Mail is still marked as not yet read. New Mails are downiaded and appear in the Maillist. I´m using Thunderbird 141.0 in Windows 11.

Help...!!! ;-)

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Strange errors suddenly? Error message "could not be compacted because writing to folder failed." (bug1959858) And Inbox disappears (bug1952311)

I have no idea why, but TB is wonking out lately with strange errors? The folder '[Gmail]/Sent Mail on me@mydomain.com' could not be compacted because writing to folder f… (read more)

I have no idea why, but TB is wonking out lately with strange errors?

The folder '[Gmail]/Sent Mail on me@mydomain.com' could not be compacted because writing to folder failed. Verify that you have enough disk space, and that you have write privileges to the file system, then try again.

I have a ton of space and have not changed anything on the PC?

Any ideas?

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Folder update is randomly very slow when downloading messages. (win11)

My Thunderbird (version 115.12.2) is running on a Windows 11 system. My profile has multiple accounts configured as IMAP to multiple email services. I also have the Statu… (read more)

My Thunderbird (version 115.12.2) is running on a Windows 11 system. My profile has multiple accounts configured as IMAP to multiple email services. I also have the Status Bar and Activity indicator enabled. Randomly, both indicators will show busy for an extended period of time. When I view this in the Activity Manager I see one or more folders hung for 10 or 20 minutes downloading one message out of several. This occurs in multiple accounts and servers.

I have researched this and attempted the fixes presented. I have cleared the cache files and compacted and rebuild email folders as suggested, but the slow update still occurs.

Then I decided to try and capture a ProMon.exe trace to see what is happening. What I found was Thunderbird.exe was spending all of the time while hung access the following file: C:\Users\MyUser\AppData\LocalLow\Intel\ ShaderCache\4a5eb0e65e559fc08e65ecb2fa9d650817ae895582a7a7ede162866d3e47a05a, like it was stuck in a loop.

When Thunderbird is operating normally, it is accessing this file but only for short period of times. Research says that it is ok to delete the files in this folder. I did that and it seemed to help for awhile. But it started happening again.

Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this? Is there a Windows thing to look further into? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Thunderbird slow startup on MacOS

I use Thunderbird on Windows and on Mac. I'm wondering why the startup time on Mac is significantly longer on MacOS. I'm currently on Tahoe 26.0.1 but Thunderbird has alw… (read more)

I use Thunderbird on Windows and on Mac. I'm wondering why the startup time on Mac is significantly longer on MacOS. I'm currently on Tahoe 26.0.1 but Thunderbird has always been a slow starter. Can I change any setting to remedy this. At the moment I have two mail accounts configured both Gmail.

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Thunderbird seems to be failing to release/relinguish previously used disk for 5-6 outlook addresses via pop

Hello, I need some advice on my Thunderbird email system. The problem(s) that I’m having are what’s frequently discussed with regard to Tbird “gulping” system drive stor… (read more)

Hello,

I need some advice on my Thunderbird email system. The problem(s) that I’m having are what’s frequently discussed with regard to Tbird “gulping” system drive storage, without frequent release.

I have been reading most of the narratives from this complaint, but the problem I’m having seems a lot different. So, I came here to explain my observation(s), in hopes I could correct this issue.

1. I am a long term Thunderbird POP3 user, since before the failures began related to signon security changes, before the Tbird corrections were employed(figuratively rewritten). I left Tbird during that time, and now I’m back. 2. So, like many others, my problem(s) arise from Tbird’s apparent failure to relinquish storage areas, when unused. 3. Right now, My W10 system drive(SSD) is setting at sitting at 122G. 4. It should be <100G, and it’s been as high as 13xG. 5. But, through some magic, something seems to happen during a inactive period, that will magically trip this storage to a more reasonable value. I have seen this 122G drop to 102G, but not in a very long time. 6. Beyond the fact that I’m stumped, I chose to write this narrative because my operations/experiences are significantly different from others I’ve read. 7. First, this is the only problem that I’m having with Tbird. Everything that I perform operates flawlessly. 8. And, probably even more noteworthy, is that I never maintain ANY email data inside Tbird. Barring absence, as soon as I determine email arrival, or any email changes, I simply move that email to a system repository for archival. As soon as this archival is complete, the email is deleted from it’s point of arrival. So, IOW, every time I close this system, Tbird will be completely empty of current mail. 9. Additionally, I initially configured ALL email storage repository to reside on another system removable drive. 10. Prior to this note, I issued the compact request. I did see a 3.0MB, but I’ve never seen anything above 0 MB before. 11. Additional attempts as solving this storage release problem, has warranted my purchase of a software product that will allow me to “look” into the internal storage of Tbird and several competitors, to send this hidden data to other repositories. It’s a long story, but I needed the product to migrate email data, where only Print PDF was avail- able. 12. But, it’s been very helpful in identifying Tbird internal email data that remains, despite the fact that I’d cleaned Tbird of everthing prior to my last review. 13. And, another issue is that all the email data that external email tool identifies, is deeply hidden from my standard Tbird client. The email data may be several/many days old, even though the related viewable email data had been archived/deleted several days earlier. 14. I mentioned that I have my email data re-positioned(#8) to external system repository drive for archival. This specification is issued in the “Local Directory” definition defined within each email target definition. From my long past experie- nces with Tbird, I learned that I could enter each of these “Local Directory” alternate repositories, and just simply erase them of ALL email data. 15. And, the next time Tbird was initialized, those “Local Directory” repositories would be rebuilt, clean. This will remove all email characteristics formerly present. And, the remote repositories(#11) will be built clean, and no latent email data will remain. However, this is probably unavailable for the 99.99% of users that maintain email on/in the Tbird system. 16. Tbird does, at some time, reorganize these repositories to regain wasted drive space. I don’t know/understand just what triggers this reorganization, and it never seems to “sync” the complete unused storage available. Right now, my system drive(SSD) was up to 122GB. Some time during my research, I noticed a drop to 111GB. But, if all empty data was reorganized, it would be <100GB. Of course, when I describe these system drive totals, I’m referencing the high limit of storage, including ALL installed software. (#5). 17. The software product that I installed, to be used to move email data from an email client to a stationary repository, is known as “YOTA Email Migrator” – A product of by YOTA Software Inc. https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=yota+email+migrator&atb=v415-1&ia=web 18. I’m very sorry for my extensive narrative, but this is complicated, and complication needs words.


Thank you,

Gary Walker -

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Unreadable due to missing characters/scrambled screen (win10)

What fresh hell is this (in the image)? The display is like this most of the time. Usually, highlighting text causes that part to be fixed but it doesn't last long. This … (read more)

What fresh hell is this (in the image)? The display is like this most of the time. Usually, highlighting text causes that part to be fixed but it doesn't last long. This in on Windows 11 and nothing seems to fix it. I've updated drivers and Thunderbird. I've scanned for system file damage. While there wer some corrupt files, fixing them has not affected the display problem. No effect. It looks like some characters are randomly changed to the background color. AMD integrated graphics on a Ryzen 9 7900x and Asrock X670E PG Lightning mainboard.

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Memory leak with Thunderbird 140.6.0esr thru 140.12.1esr, and in Troubleshoot Mode. (14 active accounts, retention limited to 60 days messages)

Hi, I'm running the latest version of Thunderbird 140.12.1esr on 15.7.7 (24G720) on an M1 processor. I'm witnessing Memory leak > Thunderbird who usually use 800MB jum… (read more)

Hi,

I'm running the latest version of Thunderbird 140.12.1esr on 15.7.7 (24G720) on an M1 processor.

I'm witnessing Memory leak > Thunderbird who usually use 800MB jumps to Gb up to 60Gb

It makes this version unusable.

Here is a loom of the incident: https://www.loom.com/share/0b8e661b42d64d749d80adfd71fd1e04

+ a screenshot


Anyone can help ?

Best Olivier

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Right-clicking Junk folder only stalls Thunderbird for several seconds

I noticed this morning that my Thunderbird tree no longer had a Junk folder. I restarted the program and Junk appeared, with stuff in it, but right-clicking the Junk fol… (read more)

I noticed this morning that my Thunderbird tree no longer had a Junk folder. I restarted the program and Junk appeared, with stuff in it, but right-clicking the Junk folder no longer brings up the usual list of options, including Empty Junk. Instead, right-clicking seems to temporarily slow-down or 'hang' Thunderbird, a condition it does recover from in 10 seconds or so. I can open the Junk folder, select all messages and delete them, but something isn't right. Any ideas, anyone?

Update: Realized I didn't mention the version I was running, it was 133.0.3, under Windows 10, but when I opened Help to find this I was invited to do an update... so I did. When the 'update' was complete, I checked and am now running 128.6.0esr (64-bit). That seems strange. Oh, the same Junk problem persists under the 'new' version.

Update #2: Evidently the drop-down menu does eventually appear, if you just wait for it... anywhere from 5 seconds to 30 seconds or so. Normally the right-click is instantaneous. What could have happened, I wonder?

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T-Bird freezes after 5 minutes. From start up to freeze.

T-Bird is Freezing (Hang?) from start to freeze was 5 minutes and a few seconds. Have turned off hardware acceleration and now it freezes at just under 5 minutes. Have pu… (read more)

T-Bird is Freezing (Hang?) from start to freeze was 5 minutes and a few seconds. Have turned off hardware acceleration and now it freezes at just under 5 minutes. Have put on updates. Currently 153.0.1esr (64-bit). I have captured profile, and re-installed and picked up the profile. Still freezes. Turned off AV. Still freezes. I have compressed and "repaired" all folders. Still Freezes. I forced folders to get rid of anything older than 30 days. Still freezes.

I have been running the task manager, and T-Bird in frozen state is only using 4.3% of CPU at most. I do not see any slowdowns for any other program. So this is not a CPU constrained problem. And it certainly is not memory constrained.

All this started within the past month and I think it was after I put on an ESR update (don't remember which one).

I can kill T-Bird and start it and it will get mail if any, and will function for about 5 minutes and then freezes (or hangs). The system is set to fetch mail on start up and then every 27 minutes. I am not using Account hub (and don't know what it does).

One oddity -- This is a W11 Home system, and Mozilla keeps saying it is a W10 system. Could this be the problem? Wife is running a lesser laptop. It is also running T-Bird, but her O/S is a W11 Pro and she is not having this problem.

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Thunderbird 128.8.1 startup email check is slow. (bug1943854)

I am using Linux Mint Cinnamon 21.3 and Thunderbird POP3 email. I have 10 email accounts. What I have noticed is the Thunderbird 128 series startup email check and/or "g… (read more)

I am using Linux Mint Cinnamon 21.3 and Thunderbird POP3 email. I have 10 email accounts.

What I have noticed is the Thunderbird 128 series startup email check and/or "get all messages" is quite slow compared to previous versions.

Thunderbird 102.15.1 took only 4 seconds to check 10 email accounts, Thunderbird 115.18.0 took 5 seconds, but Thunderbird 128 and 136 series takes 15 seconds. All of these have used the same user profiles.

There is no antivirus software active. All messages are deleted from all accounts. No messages to download and checking for messages is still slow.

I have tried the Betterbird 128 series, a fork of Thunderbird, and it too behaves the same. Betterbird 115 series work fine, just like the Thunderbird 115 series.

Is this slowness in the 128 and 136 series by design?

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not sure i lke the new version

what and who is meadow and why am i getting comcast mail sooner than thundershower it is just to slowit used to come up so much faster id get the new mail quicker … (read more)

what and who is meadow and why am i getting comcast mail sooner than thundershower it is just to slowit used to come up so much faster id get the new mail quicker now its so slow aand i do not want to uninstall and reinstall and lose my contacts and my extensions please if you know why so slow please let me know i know i sent one like this earlier but i though maybe gibving it time would be better but no it is not

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hotmail account - message list appears, instantly disappears, message list pane displays "no message found", downloads the entire message list all over again [was random reset of folders]

Recent problem, real nasty, may just have to give up on Thunderbird, at least on the Windows 10 computer. Click on folder name in folder list, all messages previously do… (read more)

Recent problem, real nasty, may just have to give up on Thunderbird, at least on the Windows 10 computer.

Click on folder name in folder list, all messages previously downloaded and viewable, when the message list appears, it instantly disappears and the message list pane displays "no message found" and it proceeds to download the entire message list all over again. For some folders with over a hundred thousand messages, this is unacceptable, obviously.

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Der Ordner „Gesendet“ wird leer

Hallo, Ich nutze Thunderbird seit Jahrzehnten. Nun ist mir zum zweiten Mal etwas passiert, das zum Verlust meiner eingehenden E-Mails geführt hat. Ich habe die Komprimmie… (read more)

Hallo,

Ich nutze Thunderbird seit Jahrzehnten. Nun ist mir zum zweiten Mal etwas passiert, das zum Verlust meiner eingehenden E-Mails geführt hat. Ich habe die Komprimmierungsanfrage bestätigt, und danach war der Sendeordner leer, und die Daten eines Jahres waren weg. Eine Reparatur ist nicht möglich, IMAP-Konto. Letztes Jahr passierte dasselbe, E-Mails von vor 10 Jahren waren verschwunden, nur im Sendeordner. Alle anderen Ordner sind in Ordnung. Was ist das Problem? Nie wieder Komprimierung zulassen? Das ist unglaublich ärgerlich. Viele Dinge sind unersetzlich. Wie kann ich das in Zukunft verhindern? Warum betrifft das nur den Sendeordner eines Kontos?

Freundliche Grüße

Wolfgang Nolte

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