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Gmail with Thunderbird using OAUTH2 - not Connecting nor creating a Cookie

This is my first post. But I have been reading and benefiting from all the expertise I have found here for many years! Thanks to all! Trying to plan ahead for the Gmail… (read more)

This is my first post. But I have been reading and benefiting from all the expertise I have found here for many years! Thanks to all!

Trying to plan ahead for the Gmail OAUTH2 change, I upgraded to Tbird 91.9.0.

My Account Settings all transferred to the new version. I do have multi Gmail accounts, as well as other email accounts, but from other posts here, this should matter.

While I am a long term Tbird user, I am a newbie with OAUTH2. I can't seem to connect. So I am writing here for help!

My setup: - Dell notebook running W10 - internet connection strong - am using a Netgear Nighthawk Hotspot Router, which works great with

    everything else, so I really doubt that is an issue

- testing without a firewall; running McAfee - resetting Tbird account back to "Normal Password", then Gmail connects

Incoming Server set to IMAP: imap.gmail.com:993 w SSL/TLS and OAuth2 Outgoing: smtp.gmail.com:465 w SSL/TLS and OAuth2

I have been consistently testing with the same gmail account: - YES, I know my password; it works with both the Gmail web interface,

   or after going back to "Normal Password" instead of OAUTH2

- allow any Alert emails via Gmail Web Interface, repeatedly. - Ran Captcha ... many times! In case someone else reading here needs this, it is here: https://accounts.google.com/b/0/DisplayUnlockCaptcha and you must be logged into the Gmail Web Interface when running this. I have learned to take a pause after running this, for it do its thing.

If Toad-Hall is reading this, I found your list of steps here very helpful: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1375558 Worth repeating for others who are struggling, like me.

As recommended here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1373706 Cookies: all cleared Remembered Passwords: all cleared

Also looked at this: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1375702 Originally, my cookies WERE blocked. I did need to change my Web Content as recommended in this post:

   Selected: Remember web sites and links I've visited
   Selected: Accept cookies from sites
   Accept third-party cookies: Always
   Keep until : they expire
   Not selected: 'Send web sites 'Do not track'..... 

Also: In Privacy and Security -> Web content -> Exceptions, added: https://accounts.google.com set to 'Allow' and Saved Changes. Then exit Tbird, took a short pause, started Tbird again, per the advice to properly update the files.

Should I be doing BOTH of these? This post shows options: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/automatic-conversion-google-mail-accounts-oauth20 So if I Select to accept cookies, should I also set the Exception??? I have tested various combinations of these settings, but not seeing a cookie.

In Tbird, when testing to connect, I see:

"Sign in with your Google Account" Enter my account password (I see an error msg here when I typo the password, no error when entered correctly) Also, have checked "Stay Signed In" while trying to Authorize, as recommended. then click Allow on the second screen.

After a few seconds, keep seeing popup in lower right corner of screen: "Authentication failure while connecting to server imap.gmail.com" Sometimes, this msg does not popup, which seems odd to me, but it still fails: Cookies: still empty Password: still empty

I keep updating and reading and updating the setups and testing again, but no cookies for me!


I admit I have gotten off track, testing and reading posts:

Thought my problem might involve Certificates for a while, but now do not think OAUTH2 is using Certificates. Right?

Thought for a bit it might be Javascript disabled, but I am NOT seeing the popup window that shows this error, from this post: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1373379 refers to: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1286410 Did find my way to Config editor: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1349136 Followed this advice: "Click the 3-bar menu icon, Preferences, and find Config. editor at the bottom of the General section. Or, type editor in the search box at the top of Preferences." Then searched for "Javascript" and found most of settings were true, like javascript.enabled is "true". Should everything that a search for javascript finds be set to true? Since I do not see the error msg, I believe this is not my problem.


Stans posted another helpful summary here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1375538 "After you've changed your accounts to OAuth2, delete all records of your Google Account passwords from Thunderbird's password vault (Saved Passwords). With OAuth2, your passwords are not stored by Tbird. Instead, an OAuth2 token (a long string of meaningless characters) is stored in the password field. That's what you should see after completing the OAuth2 process for each of your accounts. You have to do it twice, once for incoming and once for outgoing server. Also, you must allow cookies in Thunderbird's Preferences, otherwise it won't work."

If I am following this correctly, after testing to try and authenticate, I should see a Cookie and a Saved Password being created but they are not.

Think this is my problem!


In Gmail web interface, I am not sure of some settings:

In Manage Your Google Account -> Security:

1. Should Sign-in 2-step verification be on/off? (its off) 2. Third Party apps w access shows Tbird (think this is new, don't recall it before) 3. Allow Less Secure App: turn off (was On for normal pswd; either way fails w OAUTH2) (think I have tested all combinations of the above, with no success) I welcome suggestions on how I should set these to connect with OAUTH2.

I feel like I am getting close here, but I am stuck. Is there anything else, maybe something I have not heard about, like Captcha, that I should try?

Have I missed a setting somewhere? Suggestions???

Meadowlark13

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Hi

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Gmail - OAuth2 - repeated "Authentication failure while connecting to the server imap.gmail.com". Works ONLY work safe-mode.

Hi, I, like a gjillion other people, received a notice from Google/gmail saying I'm likely to lose access through Thunderbird unless ... blah blah. I was running TB v59. … (read more)

Hi,

I, like a gjillion other people, received a notice from Google/gmail saying I'm likely to lose access through Thunderbird unless ... blah blah.

I was running TB v59. If stuff works I don't make changes. It makes life simpler. I did a heap of online reading and research about this and found lots of advice. I did the following;

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I assumed that it must be because I was on an older version of TB. I updated to the latest v91 and checked that the OAuth2 settings are as they should be. All good.

I got the pop-up gmail/Google window asking me to login. My password is accepted. I am asked to allow access to gmail through Thunderbird. I allow. TB waits of a bit and pops up a failure notification. This happens every time. If I click on "Get Messages" or I click on any of my folders, I get the gmail login popup, and I am asked to allow TB, AGAIN, and then failure. I cannot get past this.

I have done enough searching again, but I cannot find anything that helps. Can anyone here help with some guidance please.

I have uploaded shots of the various windows.

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Hello!

After upgrading from a very old (but perfectly working) version of Thunderbird (24.3.0 on Windows 7) to 91.8.1 (on the same Windows 7 system), Thunderbird can no longer remember my passwords.

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Symptoms:

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  • When I try to set a primary password (I did not use one so far), I get an error "Unable to change Primary Password".

What I tried after searching for solutions:

  • Remove files cert*.db and key*.db from my profile. Does not make any difference.

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Asked by edwin.steiner 3 weeks ago

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I have received this from Google and wondering if you are aware of it and plan to make Thunderbird compliant? Google On May 30, you may lose access to apps that are usin… (read more)

I have received this from Google and wondering if you are aware of it and plan to make Thunderbird compliant?


Google On May 30, you may lose access to apps that are using less secure sign-in technology ???????@gmail.com To help keep your account secure, Google will no longer support the use of third-party apps or devices which ask you to sign in to your Google Account using only your username and password. Instead, you’ll need to sign in using Sign in with Google or other more secure technologies, like OAuth 2.0. Learn moreWhat do you need to do?

Email software, like Outlook 2016 or earlier, has less secure access to your Gmail. Switch to Office 365, Outlook 2019 or newer, or any other email software where you can sign in using Sign in with Google. Learn more You received this email to let you know about important changes to your Google Account and services. © 2022 Google LLC, 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043, USA Thank you, Jim

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