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FF 133.0.3 (64bit) OSX 13.6 Ventura

Am having trouble reliably accessing any site that uses Cloudflare.

No extensions are installed, no UA switching.

Have tried:

• Default settings as well as purposefully turning various settings "off", both with existing and brand new profiles.
• Disabling "Enhanced tracking protection", but it does appears to be hard-coded "on" as it appears as "Enabled" when any new site is visited, even even though about:protections clearly states "Enhanced Tracking Protection: OFF".
• Multiple DNS providers (Google -> 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4), (OpenDNS -> 208.67.222.222, 208.67.220.220), (Cloudflare -> 1.1.1.1, 1.0.0.1)

The issue with Cloudflare is getting past its endless "Verify you are human" turnstyle checkbox. As stated above ETP is supposedly "off". Even went ahead and added "https://cloudflare.com" and "https://challenges.cloudflare.com" to the ETP exceptions list (which should be unneccesary as ETP is supposedly "off").

Though this ticket was a few years old, followed all steps from https://support.mozilla.org/bm/questions/1273784 to no effect.

Double-checked:

Settings -> Privacy and Security: ETP -> Custom -> ALL unchecked (cookies, Tracking Content, Cryptominers, Known fingerprinters, Suspected fingerprinters) DNS over HTTPS -> Off

about:config: network.cookie.cookieBehavior -> 0 privacy.socialtracking.block_cookies.enabled => false privacy.trackingprotection.enabled privacy.trackingprotection.pbmode.enabled privacy.trackingprotection.cryptomining.enabled privacy.trackingprotection.fingerprinting.enabled

Going to any site and clicking the protection "Heart" icon still shows enhanced tracking protection to be "Enabled" (though it should not be). On any Cloudflare site, selecting "Disabled" immediately brings up the "Verify you are human" checkbox ad infinitum.

Just for fun, inspected a page a couple of times (the new serenity.ai search engine), clearing cookies & cache each time, noting the network tab via inspect. The only thing that appeared to change was the value of a cookie, and cloudflare's Ray ID. Two responses were in error, a 403 and a 401:

Request Headers (403): GET /search/new?q=pending&newFrontendContextUUID=4f32d4c2-d660-4ff0-9887-2a3aae266a9b HTTP/2 Host: www.perplexity.ai User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:133.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/133.0 Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.5 Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate, br, zstd Referer: https://www.perplexity.ai/ Connection: keep-alive Cookie: __cf_bm=DNF1kEWfzAVxab2PKJWFLyU0IXE4b5LNz.PIeoJOkOM-1734448407-1.0.1.1-cS8gMWSRlFpgYv_.cZdM9mQ9DGzIsHM9wFfeFHhXwA0zY1vtZPh0rn4dDiC63I.z.w93j4IcSXrQnpjOuNyM1w; AWSALB=lTKv0yx38yEkkWzEYB967kh1SykONJgcXE9Ge6jOe93Ty6rjgkH/Z3fBTxkSNUqRnXDgFFI+KYesnIBGiZH490IN/2pXP88ymp9yPPEyygVgD81friGNeJZgn45BTyocfNyYmsqEskUA+rHB0ltxa1YhhpxrUABoqY/udkHGsyL4vlSvuzYJ4MOWwWlS4g==; AWSALBCORS=lTKv0yx38yEkkWzEYB967kh1SykONJgcXE9Ge6jOe93Ty6rjgkH/Z3fBTxkSNUqRnXDgFFI+KYesnIBGiZH490IN/2pXP88ymp9yPPEyygVgD81friGNeJZgn45BTyocfNyYmsqEskUA+rHB0ltxa1YhhpxrUABoqY/udkHGsyL4vlSvuzYJ4MOWwWlS4g==; pplx.visitor-id=4bc3f08b-020e-439e-8e93-15f8b6af0f83; __cflb=02DiuDyvFMmK5p9jVbVnMNSKYZhUL9aGkVUmJ5FqcYiD2; _dd_s=rum=0&expire=1734449360079; cf_clearance=UZ9n6kS.QQutYN0gn.BNstdZs_YZ764L76SAZVNJPjk-1734448407-1.2.1.1-u9UM_ZNPiKyD4aznyWVe1SJiRAquh36ZYaCGE7Np4pK_beiYl.c4oV23VoufQ8xzQ72Z_Enav6x.H37HHoRduCFPk_BCdFRrpPi1qYVJmHbUmgqEcash1cfl9bMUkoimji9AgONyabWAOng7o4fvRcjRyf.HdQVDXij2eVr_zzxm1Yt484iGVG6cyelIgm.xkIAaHpnmiBlnJElUdeaH5ptdBjdprkgL6S9LmMq6cQSz1xYmef2gH7yyC.kkIcZypX7uazKwOnrpe3QJnJTN3YNG_8NddGw3UOdrU.3AWSTyVv7_TjskqV3GrvUImEISakVICmxuRDZ7v9xi5DdMwJ__ocBaSEghOpbpPAoYANE; next-auth.csrf-token=772ac4d1fe8dfdfc70db3336892bafe3e7738102b83aa8269663e3444d1a1aa6%7Cd4206f57d899feb21c14f1aff27d0ce596dfb06c928c52d7cda16f3dc9a52eec; next-auth.callback-url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.perplexity.ai; __stripe_mid=d89f9abf-fdd8-4910-b012-9a0a1da2b3405fa7e8; __stripe_sid=b520bbae-1a2d-4363-9e2e-3f058998c945eff199; pplx.metadata={%22qc%22:1%2C%22qcu%22:0%2C%22qcm%22:0%2C%22qcc%22:0%2C%22qcd%22:0%2C%22hli%22:false%2C%22hcga%22:false%2C%22hcds%22:false%2C%22hso%22:false%2C%22hfo%22:false} Upgrade-Insecure-Requests: 1 Sec-Fetch-Dest: document Sec-Fetch-Mode: navigate Sec-Fetch-Site: same-origin Sec-Fetch-User: ?1 Priority: u=0, i TE: trailers

Response Headers (403): HTTP/2 403 date: Tue, 17 Dec 2024 15:14:20 GMT content-type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 accept-ch: Sec-CH-UA-Bitness, Sec-CH-UA-Arch, Sec-CH-UA-Full-Version, Sec-CH-UA-Mobile, Sec-CH-UA-Model, Sec-CH-UA-Platform-Version, Sec-CH-UA-Full-Version-List, Sec-CH-UA-Platform, Sec-CH-UA, UA-Bitness, UA-Arch, UA-Full-Version, UA-Mobile, UA-Model, UA-Platform-Version, UA-Platform, UA critical-ch: Sec-CH-UA-Bitness, Sec-CH-UA-Arch, Sec-CH-UA-Full-Version, Sec-CH-UA-Mobile, Sec-CH-UA-Model, Sec-CH-UA-Platform-Version, Sec-CH-UA-Full-Version-List, Sec-CH-UA-Platform, Sec-CH-UA, UA-Bitness, UA-Arch, UA-Full-Version, UA-Mobile, UA-Model, UA-Platform-Version, UA-Platform, UA cross-origin-embedder-policy: require-corp cross-origin-opener-policy: same-origin cross-origin-resource-policy: same-origin origin-agent-cluster: ?1 permissions-policy: accelerometer=(),autoplay=(),browsing-topics=(),camera=(),clipboard-read=(),clipboard-write=(),geolocation=(),gyroscope=(),hid=(),interest-cohort=(),magnetometer=(),microphone=(),payment=(),publickey-credentials-get=(),screen-wake-lock=(),serial=(),sync-xhr=(),usb=() referrer-policy: same-origin x-content-options: nosniff x-frame-options: SAMEORIGIN cf-mitigated: challenge cf-chl-out: Gdpf2G2P84icaUc9eXBrWRoMXFniOcc94+Rt+ymiXoU/cQYKq8+xzyEgik2f0RThFUI4k5JP9g+7skl51OBeTGu39RBCR7yL/tmwF/QGgJBjDwK3EIC0tYjHpE5BW4phtvO78Z9jG2iIgdkLyHJdhw==$aGNrRFcXEu22z86D/jnmkA== cache-control: private, max-age=0, no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate, post-check=0, pre-check=0 expires: Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:01 GMT vary: Accept-Encoding server: cloudflare cf-ray: 8f37dcbbeae32e6a-DFW content-encoding: gzip X-Firefox-Spdy: h2

Fetch (403): await fetch("https://www.perplexity.ai/search/new?q=pending&newFrontendContextUUID=9d97fef3-8197-4a4a-841f-690468857281", {

   "credentials": "include",
   "headers": {
       "User-Agent": "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:133.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/133.0",
       "Accept": "text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8",
       "Accept-Language": "en-US,en;q=0.5",
       "Upgrade-Insecure-Requests": "1",
       "Sec-Fetch-Dest": "document",
       "Sec-Fetch-Mode": "navigate",
       "Sec-Fetch-Site": "same-origin",
       "Sec-Fetch-User": "?1",
       "Priority": "u=0, i"
   },
   "referrer": "https://www.perplexity.ai/",
   "method": "GET",
   "mode": "cors"

});

Request Headers (401): GET /cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/h/b/pat/8f37dcbe4d1e2836/1734448460780/74c530203e547de34250ba4b3b0818fccad4eb8dceb870bebc84a25ac4424ca4/8ST9YViz3dffgoY HTTP/2 Host: challenges.cloudflare.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:133.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/133.0 Accept: */* Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.5 Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate, br, zstd Referer: https://challenges.cloudflare.com/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/h/b/turnstile/if/ov2/av0/rcv/d8tib/0x4AAAAAAADnPIDROrmt1Wwj/dark/fbE/normal/auto/ Connection: keep-alive Sec-Fetch-Dest: empty Sec-Fetch-Mode: cors Sec-Fetch-Site: same-origin Priority: u=4 Cache-Control: max-age=0 TE: trailers

Response Headers (401): HTTP/2 401 date: Tue, 17 Dec 2024 15:14:20 GMT content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 content-length: 1 www-authenticate: PrivateToken challenge="AAIAGXBhdC1pc3N1ZXIuY2xvdWRmbGFyZS5jb20gdMUwID5UfeNCULpLOwgY_MrU643OuHC-vISiWsRCTKQAGWNoYWxsZW5nZXMuY2xvdWRmbGFyZS5jb20=", token-key="MIIBUjA9BgkqhkiG9w0BAQowMKANMAsGCWCGSAFlAwQCAqEaMBgGCSqGSIb3DQEBCDALBglghkgBZQMEAgKiAwIBMAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEAscjm_UO_k901rNdCKgLw5bvI4i6M_jDNCIXpfs2LRbtxwLOrUyplqVvML_hVlB5tIDMuj0ihhaOFHose-Y0_UjQnNUGE_vol46VvGgscTMtTjU4xINriap8AMTIygvljEBt6my-nBwkUGhY3U9v5iKC-eWR5bTfvrqFsuIVxafkSfhHqDXB4KLGNjvOOV71GGJ9x4yxA-C2OcULZ1uDDKuvAaMhuiWdF6OzSTXruP9yPg1vmuteavOW1re0YDbCbtK16PhHdSzWym7v_FrvId-2zf26j50FlTd_vl_DcKNDVCgWDoU0uX3cU6V3rSQoVXREEqPr-2ywSGru8ZuXRoQIDAQAB", max-age=20, PrivateToken challenge="AAIAHXNhdC5wYXQtaXNzdWVyLmNsb3VkZmxhcmUuY29tIHTFMCA-VH3jQlC6SzsIGPzK1OuNzrhwvryEolrEQkykABljaGFsbGVuZ2VzLmNsb3VkZmxhcmUuY29t", token-key="MIIBUjA9BgkqhkiG9w0BAQowMKANMAsGCWCGSAFlAwQCAqEaMBgGCSqGSIb3DQEBCDALBglghkgBZQMEAgKiAwIBMAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEAsLS4HBnLGydwK-bLQGRCaoyMsrXBRrDgQVmxS06j3UF0nYSd6GdTGCKIu1WV60eg-tJtTttfEVq7wHVQf4vzjYBidmCh88ebzxKv2GB6PESSodf5MsEup9xd5dxpkYScgL1CCJq89kRrOQ_CS61bvkL_oGyZf4ffqG5THgaOsopqj8dFLH6_SMy9yf8EgMYqpyjxfKsD-1_qb1m1DRjJEKPWKIGwmHXIKQJUqsxZFm4_Inwkxx7QMpVP4GyqlTxFVz7stWwJRSkMLHjEM_IWLUYfPhuwIUVqmRjGsY1n8flA1bRfxaWHNDxoi25-M2BKTP9NkNNJBbTKErhrZ9LGywIDAQAB", max-age=20, PrivateToken challenge="AAIALHBwLWlzc3Vlci1wcm9kdWN0aW9uLnJlc2VhcmNoLmNsb3VkZmxhcmUuY29tIHTFMCA-VH3jQlC6SzsIGPzK1OuNzrhwvryEolrEQkykABljaGFsbGVuZ2VzLmNsb3VkZmxhcmUuY29t", token-key="MIIBUjA9BgkqhkiG9w0BAQowMKANMAsGCWCGSAFlAwQCAqEaMBgGCSqGSIb3DQEBCDALBglghkgBZQMEAgKiAwIBMAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEAnjx4ES9FK_7HoOz2eOuAOLsLJohAAACh84h85AqhAgNOQHBXgzvaRlSVTWSxbxqMaM7_mzi_nXEX7uTPY4QjDPwxO1-MTMRr9MTdbId3v2KeXk7Utq2UL3Sqq1pUAFuYr5f3iNWvcUTPA2uQnM5rA2Y6y4ihqGeKzjo4Ws3RUng4UG_XpnH7TLtkaQT2lSlx1KW3HVmqe3s2nErL6VnmuSSy2fq44coBInPp7ynWCw8_3S_-dcI8a5go7lg2mavoCR40euH5CdnAunVSViDwmvWwAp-1utTaVRH5Js528pcl79qQZBn4JNqyILi_Ymqw1LSnr8eYgV1xj4dzW1hJqQIDAQAB", max-age=20 server: cloudflare cf-ray: 8f37dcc06f682836-DFW alt-svc: h3=":443"; ma=86400 X-Firefox-Spdy: h2

Fetch (401): await fetch("https://challenges.cloudflare.com/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/h/b/pat/8f37e12ccc22e79a/1734448642308/b0f60510f953d7fa51138545e66632922718d191f21dd45996658b37e0dd46d0/BgNyxuJHfe5Ju1e", {

   "credentials": "omit",
   "headers": {
       "User-Agent": "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:133.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/133.0",
       "Accept": "*/*",
       "Accept-Language": "en-US,en;q=0.5",
       "Sec-Fetch-Dest": "empty",
       "Sec-Fetch-Mode": "cors",
       "Sec-Fetch-Site": "same-origin",
       "Priority": "u=4",
       "Cache-Control": "max-age=0"
   },
   "referrer": "https://challenges.cloudflare.com/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/h/b/turnstile/if/ov2/av0/rcv/2iqu9/0x4AAAAAAADnPIDROrmt1Wwj/dark/fbE/normal/auto/",
   "method": "GET",
   "mode": "cors"

});

Had also reported this issue over at Cloudflare a while back; they were not very forthcoming as to why this behavior might be occurring. Often their own forum would get the endless turnstyle with FF.

Other browsers do not have this issue, and while I very much like Firefox, in recent releases it has become all but unusable where Cloudflare is concerned.

Please advise how to reliable get past Cloudflare's endless "Verify you are human" turnstyle.

Thanks!

I have had three bad experiences with Firefox. They center around security pages on banking pages and other websites that require login. 1) Pinterest asks "can we confirm your email address" I say yes, and it never sends me a message to my email. Maybe there is another are of the UI that that page is not displaying for me. 2) A+ Federal credit union in Texas has a drop down to select the year's bank statements you want to see, I select the year and the list of statements does not appear below. When I go to Edge I can see the list. 3) I can't remember the other one just now.

QUESTION: how do I communicate to your team about the problem on the bank's webpage if you can't access it to see what the HTML is doing? Rick.

For the past month or so, I'd say about 20% of the websites I visit using Firefox just show a blank, white screen. (See allbirds.com site image attached for example.)

1. Cleared the cache and cookies to see if that fixed it. It didn't. 2. Entered Troubleshoot Mode to see if that fixed it. It didn't. 3. Disabled all extensions to see if that fixed it. It didn't. 4. Disabled "recommended performance settings" and hardware acceleration--in combination with some of the above--to see if that fixed it. It didn't. 5. Reinstalled Firefox to see if that fixed it. It didn't. 6. Also paused/disabled VPN (Nord) and anti-virus (McAfee) to see if that made a difference. It didn't.

Any other ideas?

Thanks.

Less than a week ago, all of a sudden I couldn't access my website anymore. I can access my website on my ipad and iphone but not my computer. It isn't the ISP. I don't even know if it is the browser as I downloaded a new browser and it did it there but I have cleared every cache, reissued an SSL, cleared local DNS cache. Talked to a developer. I am at a loss. I can neither see mywebsite on my computer, nor can I log in and edit it. I have also checked with the server side and every test they could run says that it is all working just fine!

Trying to connect to yahoo mail (currently.com) and keep getting error messages. All other websites on firefox work.

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In each case, I tried to disable the privacy 'badger' - no difference. I also tried installing Dark Metall 1717 - not a solution

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Very perplexed. I shifted away from Brave to use FF for Google Voice & now the situation is reversed. Now, I can normally open Brave when this happens & get a responsive dial pad in Google Voice.

Using Windows 10 Professional, 64-bit on a big powerful workstation replacement category notebook.