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No More Ai

Just wanted to add my voice to the complaints about further AI being added to firefox. Firefox as a browser is a refuge from the enshittification of the internet as a who… (read more)

Just wanted to add my voice to the complaints about further AI being added to firefox. Firefox as a browser is a refuge from the enshittification of the internet as a whole, with it being one of the few non-chromium browser options, please dont join in the effort to force AI on everyone. At the very least it shouldnt take multiple options to disable AI in my browser. But at best I would love to see firefox development focused on performance rather than more AI bullshit that only CEO's want.

Asked by Lowri 2 months ago

Last reply by Paul 2 months ago

AI "features" reduce privacy, usability, and integrity of the entire browser

I've been doing free advertising for Firefox for years, successfully convincing friends, family and coworkers to reject chromium browsers and make the difficult choice to… (read more)

I've been doing free advertising for Firefox for years, successfully convincing friends, family and coworkers to reject chromium browsers and make the difficult choice to switch browsers and get use to a new interface on Firefox. I know most people like me are able to do this by touting that Firefox actually cares about keeping your data private and allowing users to opt in to many "features" that chromium browsers have you opt out of. Unfortunately with the recent inclusion of AI settings that have been turned on by default and hidden under layers of setting menus, it looks like Firefox is turning to the same tactics we came here to escape. If this trend coninues, I won't be able to in good concious recommend this browser to others, and might as well just switch back to chrome which more websites have better support for. I hope the company makes the right decision and keeps AI out of Firefox

Asked by Allison Quinlan 2 months ago

Last reply by Paul 2 months ago

I don't want AI

Hi! I have seen that Mozilla will be moving forwards with integrating AI to Firefox. I am very uncomfortable with this, as AI poses a risk to the privacy and security tha… (read more)

Hi! I have seen that Mozilla will be moving forwards with integrating AI to Firefox. I am very uncomfortable with this, as AI poses a risk to the privacy and security that made me choose Firefox in the first place. If this is the case and AI is truly integrated (at least without an option to turn it off or opt-out completely) I will no longer use this browser and switch to something else. I enjoy Firefox so I am hoping that this will not be necessary....but we will see.

Asked by wrensthings 2 months ago

Last reply by Paul 2 months ago

Why is this wonderful browser becoming filled with AI slop?

I know I am far from the first person to bring this up, but it is absolutely horrid how a browser that is supposed to be one of the better options for privacy is starting… (read more)

I know I am far from the first person to bring this up, but it is absolutely horrid how a browser that is supposed to be one of the better options for privacy is starting to integrate more and more unwanted AI "features". None of us want this, nobody asked for this. Generative AI (including LLMs like ChatGPT and its equivalents) is horrific to even try to get a correct answer out of. It's simply processing your input and guessing what you want to hear in its output. It doesn't give facts, it doesn't help the user experience, it just makes things worse.

Every single time a new AI...thing is added, I have to go find a way to turn it off. If this keeps going, I cannot see a future where Firefox is a viable option for secure browsing. If anything, it may actually become on-par with or, dare I say worse than Google Chrome.

Asked by seeliesatyr 2 months ago

Last reply by Paul 2 months ago

Stop putting AI in your browser

I love firefox. I recommend it to everyone. Because it's the only browser that appeared to have my best interest at heart. I develop extensions firefox-first rather than … (read more)

I love firefox. I recommend it to everyone. Because it's the only browser that appeared to have my best interest at heart. I develop extensions firefox-first rather than chrome-first. I don't want generative AI getting anywhere near any of my things, and I'm sorry to say I've switched to Waterfox for now. Please backtrack on this, I just want to use the internet without AI plastered in my face :<

Asked by Niko 2 months ago

Last reply by Paul 2 months ago

Firefox with AI

I am looking for confirmation that Mozilla is moving to an 'AI browser'. Will there be an option to not use this data harvesting LLM garbage or will mozilla be abandoni… (read more)

I am looking for confirmation that Mozilla is moving to an 'AI browser'.

Will there be an option to not use this data harvesting LLM garbage or will mozilla be abandoning their core values?

Asked by mail1756 2 months ago

Last reply by Paul 2 months ago

Dont integrate AI into firefox

With the new terrible CEO, there are plans to start integrating AI into firefox. If this happens, I'll ditch this browser in a heartbeat. Its a terrible decision to add t… (read more)

With the new terrible CEO, there are plans to start integrating AI into firefox. If this happens, I'll ditch this browser in a heartbeat. Its a terrible decision to add this and this AI bubble will burst.

Asked by marlanator22 2 months ago

Last reply by Paul 2 months ago

Disappointed with Firefox's future as a "modern AI browser" !

I use firefox as my browser of choice because it seems to be the only large browser not yet completely flooded with AI slop and bloatware. I'm incredibly disappointed tha… (read more)

I use firefox as my browser of choice because it seems to be the only large browser not yet completely flooded with AI slop and bloatware. I'm incredibly disappointed that the new direction seems to be "becoming a modern AI browser". I don't care if I can opt-in or opt-out of AI tools for my personal browser experience - simply their presence presents a safety, efficiency, ethical and privacy concern.

The ONE THING that puts firefox above other browsers and why it is gaining more users recently is because it hasn't jumped into the AI-toilet along with Chrome etc. Yet. If Firefox moves forward with the implementation of more AI tools, regardless of individual opt-in options, I will have no choice but to stop using firefox. I am simply not interested in wading through excrement.

Asked by Jahn Ringger 2 months ago

Last reply by Paul 2 months ago

CONSTANT AI BLOAT RUINING EVERYTHING

Do Mozilla really have no idea why their browser is considered a better alternative to other browsers? Why do they insist on making their browser WORSE for the sake of ju… (read more)

Do Mozilla really have no idea why their browser is considered a better alternative to other browsers? Why do they insist on making their browser WORSE for the sake of jumping on the latest stupid tech trend!? Some new tech that makes everything it's used in perform considerably worse? Oh boy sounds like the perfect thing for firefox! If this keeps up I'm looking into a browser that's at least more open about the fact it doesn't care.

Asked by backwardsin 2 months ago

Last reply by Paul 2 months ago

Future AI use

Hello, I choose to use Firefox because it does not have the amount of bloat and spyware that exist with other browsers. I fear that the recent call to add AI to the brows… (read more)

Hello, I choose to use Firefox because it does not have the amount of bloat and spyware that exist with other browsers. I fear that the recent call to add AI to the browser's functions will both slow the processing time down as well as increase the amount of spyware involved. I cannot see how this is a positive for the future of Firefox. All I can say definitively at this point is that should AI functions be added in I will be finding a way to never use them, even if it means kneecapping things for other functionality in the process. I will also be keeping an eye out for extensions or addons that remove the AI, as I have already with other AI online.

Asked by CCampbell 2 months ago

Last reply by Paul 2 months ago

Future AI Usage

For a long time I have been using Firefox, because of its performance and customizability. I detest that modern companies have to shove AI into any program even where it … (read more)

For a long time I have been using Firefox, because of its performance and customizability. I detest that modern companies have to shove AI into any program even where it is uterly useless. I already don't like the current AI that Firefox has already added. Firefox has alreay lost a lot of my trust in recent years. Should Firefox continue with adding more AI features, I will be switching to a better browser.

Asked by jonaloew 2 months ago

Last reply by Paul 2 months ago

Don't add more AI

Like many others, I had switched over to Firefox because it was the most secure and AI-free option out there. I was willing to accept there would be minimal AI "features"… (read more)

Like many others, I had switched over to Firefox because it was the most secure and AI-free option out there. I was willing to accept there would be minimal AI "features" as long as I was able to disable them immediately, which I did. Pushing for more will only alienate the users and make the overall user experience worse. I am tired of checking every second picture if it's AI generated. I am tired of seeing AI generated articles. I never read the AI summaries because who knows when they'll tell me to add glue to my pizza to make the cheese stick more. We already have studies that show generative AI affects an individual's capacity for thought. I have people in my life that are being affected by it. Firefox, being the only non-Chromium based browser, is basically a beacon of normalcy in all this bullshit. Don't mess up the trust of your community by stooping so low. If we wanted AI slop we would be using Google Chrome.

Asked by jk98 2 months ago

Last reply by Paul 2 months ago

Concerned about AI use.

I have happily used Firefox for years now, but I avoid using AI for both privacy and environmental reasons. I am extremely concerned by Mozilla's increased emphasis on th… (read more)

I have happily used Firefox for years now, but I avoid using AI for both privacy and environmental reasons. I am extremely concerned by Mozilla's increased emphasis on these technologies. I do not want, nor will I put up with, new AI features in my browser. If the company continues this push, I will move to a different browser. It'll be very annoying, and I'll be really upset about it, but it's what I'll have to do if y'all keep going down this path. Please stop.

Asked by sschenew 2 months ago

Last reply by Paul 2 months ago

NO ai browser

Firefox has been the best way to browse the internet. If the new CEO thinks that the people that use Firefox want ai then he is sorely mistaken. Duckduckgo has an option … (read more)

Firefox has been the best way to browse the internet. If the new CEO thinks that the people that use Firefox want ai then he is sorely mistaken. Duckduckgo has an option to turn ai off, I already use it as a search engine, it might be time to switch to the browser if Mozilla goes more into ai.

Asked by Jakup 2 months ago

Last reply by Paul 2 months ago

Why all the AI?

Firefox is the ine major browser on the market that DOESN'T have much of this stuff and actually kinda cares about privacy. Why take that away? You're only driving away y… (read more)

Firefox is the ine major browser on the market that DOESN'T have much of this stuff and actually kinda cares about privacy. Why take that away? You're only driving away your main userbase. If you continue shoving AI down our throats like everyone else I'm gonna have to find an alternative.

Asked by jepanza 2 months ago

Last reply by Paul 2 months ago

Read The Freakin' Room - Stop This AI Nonsense

I am going to be brutally honest here: I'm militantly anti-AI and think its proliferation has caused innumerable issues societally, including offloading simple cognitive … (read more)

I am going to be brutally honest here: I'm militantly anti-AI and think its proliferation has caused innumerable issues societally, including offloading simple cognitive tasks or questions that could have been directed towards actual living breathing people being instead handed over to something that doesn't know what words even mean, just where they might go in a sentence. Many people share my concerns, and have voiced them across social media, and have gone out of their way to criticise and take a stand against what we see as a plague.

So it is with much frustration that I find out Mozilla are aiming to turn Firefox into "a modern AI browser", per new Mozilla CEO Anthony Enzor-Demeo's first blog post in the role. I have already gone out of my way to turn off as much of the AI nonsense in Firefox as I can — even downloading a plugin to remove the Google Gemini summaries, because they're all less than useless and absolutely defeat the point of using Google in the first place — and now here we are; it's going to be shoved down our throats, whether we wanted it or not (which, of course, many of us didn't).

I didn't anticipate that this would be the thing that forces me to make an account for the support forum of all things, because my experience of Firefox up to this point (an experience spanning almost as long as Firefox has existed) has been a largely positive experience, and I even make use of Thunderbird for my email needs. Now, all of this is being swept aside because of corporate greed and an outright rejection of its userbase.

This same userbase is very strongly and vocally against this, and it is within our power — even if we don't necessarily want to have to do so — to move elsewhere. Therefore, I urge Mozilla and its leadership to read the goddamn room and recognise that we don't want this, stop forcing it upon us, and focus on being a browser that is nice to use without having to rely on the Infinite Plagiarism Machine to do it.

If there is no about-turn on this or almost prostrated assurances that you would have to directly opt in (not out, but in, specifically; as in, I would have to turn everything on myself to even see a single bit of it) to this otherwise seemingly enforced "modern AI browser" experience, I will stop using both Firefox and Thunderbird and will actively recommend against them. I've already gone some distance towards excising the likelihood of encountering AI in my life, and I will continue to do so if I have to, even if it comes at the cost of software I've been using ever since I was a teenager.

Your call, Mozilla.

Choose responsibly.

Asked by Daniel Learmouth 2 months ago

Last reply by Paul 2 months ago

I don't want an ai browser

I have many, MANY issues with LLMs, but a lot of them come down to this: I don't want my computer doing things that can't be fully tracked down in logs. LLMs and other "a… (read more)

I have many, MANY issues with LLMs, but a lot of them come down to this: I don't want my computer doing things that can't be fully tracked down in logs.

LLMs and other "ai" aren't traceable, and their outputs aren't truly repeatable: their information comes from loose associative heuristics that don't follow any kind of human logic, and they are inherently prone to erroneous data. Even if there was an ai that was right 99% of the time (which is currently impossible, with all existing models being at MOST 50% accurate), I wouldn't want to use it if it couldn't show me exactly where its information came from, without errors and without hallucinations, every time.

There's enough misinformation on the internet as it is. I don't want my browser, the vehicle I use to navigate information, adding more.

In addition, I don't really want my bank account information stolen when I read a Reddit post, thanks.

Asked by Pteryx 2 months ago

Last reply by Paul 2 months ago

Becoming an "AI Browser"

I am an IT proofessional in a large city. As such, I make sure people have Firefox installed and use it. I tell everyone that it is the best browser with the highest secu… (read more)

I am an IT proofessional in a large city. As such, I make sure people have Firefox installed and use it. I tell everyone that it is the best browser with the highest security and it's not beholden to corporate BS.

I want to let you know that if you shoehorn AI into Firefox, I will uninstall it from every computer in the city. Artificial Intelligence as it is now is a security risk, a HUGE waste of energy, and also wrong somewhere around 50% of the time. I already have to disable and uninstall microsoft AI crap because it eats resources like fire burning through a forest. Why is this what you want Firefox to become?

You are shooting yourselves in the foot with this. I don't care how much money you've invested on its development, drop it now. You're already the browser with the absolute smallest market share in the industry. Why would you ensure that NO ONE uses the one thing you actually do? Or do you think going AI-first will somehow push you ahead in the game?

Read the room, man. No end user wants AI. The only reason it's used at all is because it is in EVERYTHING. No one can get away from it. People use it by accident and corporate bigwigs call that a win. And it really is crammed into everything, too. At least once a week I have to find some new little AI toy to disable so someone's computer doesn't tell them to jump off a bridge or something.

I am pleading with you to stop.

You really don't need to answer this thread. There's just no way to privately send a message to Firefox for someone to read. I hope you pass this along.

Asked by chaoskirin 2 months ago

Last reply by Paul 2 months ago

Stop AI

Hi there volunteering person! This is obviously not pointed at you. That being said.. No one wants AI. Your ceo is too rich to care about his customer base and like Duol… (read more)

Hi there volunteering person! This is obviously not pointed at you. That being said..

No one wants AI. Your ceo is too rich to care about his customer base and like Duolingo, people who came to this browser to get away from The Chrome of it All, and here you go following in their idiotic footsteps. Revise AI usage and save the trust you can still hold

Asked by Nathan Galatianos 2 months ago

Last reply by Paul 2 months ago

On the topic of "AI" and Privacy

Firefox is already a product that works and is probably the best alternative to any of the other major browsers out there. It's a product that I've been happy to use for … (read more)

Firefox is already a product that works and is probably the best alternative to any of the other major browsers out there. It's a product that I've been happy to use for many, many years. So why is it being ruined by this needless push to add in "AI"? I don't want it. I don't want any part of it to touch my experience using this browser. I want either an easy way to completely turn it off so it can't suck up my data and expose my private information, or not have it be included at all. I will actively be looking for alternative browsers if these plans continue.

Asked by supersonic-811 2 months ago

Last reply by Paul 2 months ago