Thunderbird hangs my computer/machine periodically, rarely

Thunderbird causes my machine to 'hang' from time to time, 1. often for up to a second and usually a number of times in quick succession on each ocasion. Sometimes this … (read more)

Thunderbird causes my machine to 'hang' from time to time,

1. often for up to a second and usually a number of times in quick succession on each ocasion. Sometimes this happens frequently - say every 5 or 10 minutes - sometimes only after an hour or more since the past occurrance.

2. My machine hangs completely - nothing will work, mouse, keyboard, sound, other apps etc. If I happen to be typing (into any app - including Thunderbird - when this happens, input ceases, the cursor freezes and - if the problem persists for a second or two, Windows reports "[app] is not responding"

3. I cannot be certain, but I believe the problem occurs whilst messages are being retrieved.

This is a very serious problem as it means that I can never leave TB running as the problems it causes are not acceptable.

4. This means I cannot deal with incoming messages without periodically re-starting TB - which is an utter PIA.

I am running Win 11 Professional on a 2-year old machine with 64 Gb of memory. I have run TB in Troubleshoot mode, I have confirmed that the problem occurs regardless or whatever other apps are running (or none) and I have proven conclusively that no other app causes any kind of similar problem.

Looking forward yto hearing if others have had the same issue and what can be done about it.

Open 18 139

Profile/session doesn't ever save/load

I run normal firefox on linux. Fully up-to-date. Every time I quit the app, it reverts to a version of my profile from a month ago, and loads all the tabs I had open then… (read more)

I run normal firefox on linux. Fully up-to-date. Every time I quit the app, it reverts to a version of my profile from a month ago, and loads all the tabs I had open then, and then receives all the tabs that I sent to the device in the interim (~1 month). As I speak, it just caught the 60 or 70 tabs in this window.

I tried changing the name of my profile folder to randomstring.defaultOLD and changed one of the backups to randomstring.default. This didn't change the behavior. I'm still stuck in the loop. I saved my tabs with onetab, because firefox isn't remembering my session anymore. I thought it was something to do with updates, like it only loses its mind upon updates, but that's not true. It thinks it's updating firefox EVERY TIME, because the one time it's loading to 1 month ago it was updating, but I'm 100% sure there are no updates to firefox in my linux. It's just hallucinating.

The articles on restoring from backup are outdated. They say to use an html file. There is no html file. It's just folders for profiles, not html files. HELP!

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latest firefox is continuously refreshing the page on a Website, both Windows11 and Linux versions. Website loaded ok previously and still loads ok using Chrome. Why?

Firefox version 152.0 : Firefox is continuously refreshing the page on a particular Website, in both Windows11 and Linux versions, making the site unusable ( unable to cl… (read more)

Firefox version 152.0 : Firefox is continuously refreshing the page on a particular Website, in both Windows11 and Linux versions, making the site unusable ( unable to click anything ). The website loaded ok previously using Firefox and still loads ok using Chrome. Disabling extensions doesn't help, neither does deleting the cache and cookies. What changed and why? Is there anything else to try?

Open 15 58

"Firefox is being updated by another instance" is driving me crazy !

Since I upgraded from FF128-esr to FF140-esr I always get the "Firefox is being updated by another instance" This is really driving me crazy, as I checked / did / .... ev… (read more)

Since I upgraded from FF128-esr to FF140-esr I always get the "Firefox is being updated by another instance" This is really driving me crazy, as I checked / did / .... everything (and even more) I found on the internet related to that.

Nothing helps !

Creating and using a new default profile didn't help

Finally I ended up uninstalling FF completely (making sure no -zero- leftovers remained in ProgramFiles, AppData a.s.o.), and reinstalled FF140.7.0-esr freshly. After installation I started FF immediately with the created default profile (only existing one) --> SAME THING : "Firefox is being updated by another instance"

And this is really a FF140 thing, when I go back to FF128, on the same computer, same profiles, ...., the problem is gone.

I would like to know in detail what checks are really done by FF to decide to give that "Firefox is being updated by another instance"

Open 15 1 196

Copying account to local folders

Hello dear forum Here are the details: Account type: Microsoft Exchange (via OWL) Antivirus software and firewall used: Bitdefender I have the following problem: I copied… (read more)

Hello dear forum Here are the details: Account type: Microsoft Exchange (via OWL) Antivirus software and firewall used: Bitdefender I have the following problem: I copied the mbox files from the active account (profile) to Local Folders (as described in some forums), both with and without *.msf files (seems this makes no difference to the problem). Then I start Thunderbird, and all folders and subfolders appear in Local Folders. However, when I go into one of these copied folders or subfolders, it only displays a single email. The copied folder is the same size as the original, but no other emails are displayed, and this is repeated in every subfolder. I employed the repair function with no result. The import/export tool NG only copies half of the emails. The total is 4.25 GB. I can only copy the emails manually via copy/paste, but this is very error-prone and takes a very long time. Has anyone had experience copying mbox files and managed to do it successfully? I would be very grateful for any advice.

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firefox will not load zyngagames.com game

after the last Firefox update the zynga game Farmville 2 will not load. It gives me a screen to fix mentioning chrome..but all efforts to manually fix referencing Firefo… (read more)

after the last Firefox update the zynga game Farmville 2 will not load. It gives me a screen to fix mentioning chrome..but all efforts to manually fix referencing Firefox have failed. Odd that I can load the plain Zyngagames.com on Edge but it seems they too only load a "local" game that is not connected to any network. Help also mentions to make sure I allow to redirect but that "Options" feature to do so is not there. In fact it seems like the Firefox menu system is even much different and expanded. I will add the screens I have tried etc. Pop ups are allowed, turned off enhanced etc. but cannot find any reference to "third party redirects" Any suggestions are appreciated.

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How do I stop FireFox from telling me to set it as the default.

How do I stop this page from coming up several times a day. I have already set FireFox as my default browser, several times, but to no avail. I've careful followed your… (read more)

How do I stop this page from coming up several times a day. I have already set FireFox as my default browser, several times, but to no avail. I've careful followed your instructions. I dislike MS and have used FF for years. If this doesn't stop, I'll search for another browser that hopefully behave. I have set it on 4 computers, 2 Win 10, 2 Win 11.

By the way, the computers show FireFox twice, but only one actual installation.

Please do better!

Open 7 50

If a Telecom uses real Email, i/.e. not WEBmail, and they use POP3...

Hello, and thanks for the read... ISSUE: Every day I have to call the telecom ROGERS that took over for telecom SHAW, turn IMAP and Pop3 on 9 Email accounts (they lost 1)… (read more)

Hello, and thanks for the read...

ISSUE: Every day I have to call the telecom ROGERS that took over for telecom SHAW, turn IMAP and Pop3 on 9 Email accounts (they lost 1). Sometimes the 1 to 2 hors chat w/ a human turned it back on will not last long.

DETAILS:

  1. I can receive outside Emails *because I can't send using Shaw/Rogers, checking for Email, just hangs at trying to login in to any of the 9/10 emails.
  2. When I can get a support person to check, they tell me that IMAP and POP3 are turned off.
  3. They will tell me they re-enabled it. But it doesn't enable for me.
  4. It all works OK when using the online webmail Zimbra. However, I need to check 3 of the 9 email accounts every hour, others every 6 hours, and others once a day at boot.

QUESTION: When using POP3, does the setting on my SMTP need a special setting on Thunderbird?.

NOTE: I am complying with "Rogers With Shaw" passing the buck to the Email Client (Thunderbird) by asking here - "Could It Be The Email Client'! And my answer is 'No', because Thunderbird works perfectly with 54 other Email accounts.

Thank for reading this, and for any input you may add, ~r

P.S., I'd like to see a upgrade to this input form that allows us to Preview out Post And, when I started this Post, it alerady had a image from a previous Post

Open 6 90

Opening new messages has changed from "one click" to "double click" operation.

I'm running Thunderbird Ver 152.0.1 with Windows 11. I have things set up so that I just need a single click to open a program, folder or file. This also was the case un… (read more)

I'm running Thunderbird Ver 152.0.1 with Windows 11. I have things set up so that I just need a single click to open a program, folder or file.

This also was the case until just recently with Thunderbird. I could open new messages with just a single click. For some reason this has changed to me needing to double click to open new messages.

I don't know why and cannot find any method of changing the software back to single click operation. It is only affecting Thunderbird all the Windows operations still operate with one click.

Can you advise me on how to reset the Thunderbird software to single click operation.

Many thanks. Alan Tierney

Open 6 10

Twitter/X Login Impossible

Logging in to Twitter/X is no longer possible as of a couple of days ago. After entering the username, pressing the "Next" button does nothing. Using the Desktop or Mobil… (read more)

Logging in to Twitter/X is no longer possible as of a couple of days ago. After entering the username, pressing the "Next" button does nothing. Using the Desktop or Mobile version of the site makes no difference.

Open 6 40

Problem in Updating Thunderbird V17.0.9 to most current

I have changed the website hosting company from my previous one to scalahosting.com, which in turn appears to be using grok.viawebhost.com as their mailserver. I was a us… (read more)

I have changed the website hosting company from my previous one to scalahosting.com, which in turn appears to be using grok.viawebhost.com as their mailserver.

I was a user of Eudora 7.1 for many years, but because of this change of hosting company, the Eudora email program would not connect to the Scalahosting site.

Thus I was forced to change to Thunderbird. After reading several webposting on this matter, I found and uploaded V17.0.9 and proceeded to convert the Eudora email, filters and addresses to the Thunderbird format.

This was not an easy task, and even with Google's AI assistance, I had to restart several times, but as of today - mid-Jun I have now completed the task of cleaning up all the email, installing the correct headers, etc that allows the Thunderbird program to open and correctly display all of those email without any problems.

I further cleaned up and corrected all of the Eudora filters to the TB format and now have those filters in TB to be able to be installed and correctly are accepted by the TB program.

Like wise with the contact addressee that were in the Eudora NNdbase.nnt file were cleaned up and correctly installed in the TB program.

However, the current status of the TB program is that it does not seem to be able to connect to the Scala Webhosting email site at grok.viawebhost.com. Enclosed is a pic of the supposed correct set up for the STMP at Port 465.

The other Port info from Scala is: POP3 - 995 (SSL) IMAP - 993 (SSL)

But I am not sure what else I need to do to correctly set up this older version so that I can start the collection process of the most recent emails sitting in the mailserver.

Further, it was suggested that I need to update the TB V17.0.9 to the most recent V151 by following the below sequence of updates:

According to Mozilla Support Documentation, this is the exact, official sequence to migrate safely from a legacy version:

Step 1: Run V24.8.0 (32-bit) (This updates the raw database schema out of V17. Upgrades the raw Mbox structures.)

Step 2: Run V45.8.0 (32-bit) (Stabilizes the folder indexing schema.)

Step 3: Run V52.9.1 (32-bit) (The final 32-bit staging version.60.9.1 (64-bit). Migrates the architecture to 64-bit processing.)

Step 4: Run V60.9.1 (This is the critical gatekeeper version required to unlock modern automatic profile conversion).

Step 5: Run V78.14 (This shifts the mail indexing formats).

Step 6: Run V102.15.1 (This modernizes the folder structure configurations).

Step 7: Final jump to V151.0.1 (Updates the background engine to current web standards).


I am looking any advice or suggestions from the Community that can assist me in completing this conversion to the TB program and get it fully functional so I can connect to the Scala Hosting mailserver.

Many thanks in advance for your assistance.

/s/ James T Saint

Open 5 10

Unable to view images to verify Google image captcha

Hi, I’m a new user of Firefox on iOS and after being impressed with Mozilla/Firefox privacy commitments,, I decided to use it as the default browser on my iOS mobile on t… (read more)

Hi, I’m a new user of Firefox on iOS and after being impressed with Mozilla/Firefox privacy commitments,, I decided to use it as the default browser on my iOS mobile on the latest Apple’s software update but unfortunately, I’m unable to even visit safe and known websites mainly because everytime I fall prey to the endless google image verification captcha but never been able to see any of their images - bus, cars, hydrants or anything for that matter. This has resulted in disappointment for me as I tried even dialling down on my privacy controls to standard from strict but to no avail. I have consented for the technical team to share the analytics of what has happened and offer a solution. I am also posting it here as I could not see any features where I could directly drop an email to the Mozilla/firefox devs and technical teams . Keep up the hard work you are doing to keep us safe online but please try to get the browser spot on with iOS . Unfortunately I have now changed my default browser as safari and downloaded Firefox focus to offer some browser protection by toggling on the extension.

All have a nice day!

Moderator note: Moved from the Firefox Desktop forum to the Firefox for iOS forum.

Open 5 1

Firefox suddenly can’t load any websites when on data

I have been using Firefox on my iPhone for years without problems. But for about a week now if I’m on data it can’t load any websites, a message appears saying it cannot … (read more)

I have been using Firefox on my iPhone for years without problems. But for about a week now if I’m on data it can’t load any websites, a message appears saying it cannot connect to server. It works fine when I’m on WiFi.

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Checkboxes in FF are very unusable now...

Hello, In FF 152.0.5 (aarch64) on macOS 26.5.2, I am noticing that every website that has a checkbox in a form does not work the way it should. The only indication that… (read more)

Hello, In FF 152.0.5 (aarch64) on macOS 26.5.2, I am noticing that every website that has a checkbox in a form does not work the way it should. The only indication that the box is checked is a slight "highlight" around the edge of the box, nothing actually in the box. See attached screenshot from the USPS website.

Also, the NO checkbox wasn't even visible until I clicked the area next to it. It was just blank.

I've seen this for set-up pages for WordPress plugins and on standard contact forms (using CF7 plugin) where the checkboxes so very little or no interaction to the user at all.

Grant it, I know now what to look for and how to use these. But any standard user is going to be absolutely confused by this unintended (I Hope) browser behavior.

Open 5

how do i get pdfs in black font

Hello I just filled out a pdf and the font or writing came out blue I want it in black is there some where in Firefox i can get it in black w font or writing please … (read more)

Hello I just filled out a pdf and the font or writing came out blue I want it in black is there some where in Firefox i can get it in black w font or writing please Advise thank you

Open 5

Unsent Message Folder in Wrong Place

> I have 6 email accounts I manage in my Thunderbird. > Normally I do not delay sending emails, so I have not had a reason to use the Unsent Messages Folder. > … (read more)

> I have 6 email accounts I manage in my Thunderbird. > Normally I do not delay sending emails, so I have not had a reason to use the Unsent Messages Folder. > I recently installed Thunderbird's Mail Merge Add-On to send mass individual emails to classmates for a school reunion. Doing it this way will allow me to track individual bad emails. I have a total of 3621 emails. > I created a new Gmail Account for this purpose. > There is a concern to not send too many emails out at once to avoid getting flagged and suspended by Gmail as a Spam Account. (Limits of 50 to 500 per 24 hr period have been suggested to avoid this), so scheduling bursts of emails over a period of time is necessary. > The Mail Merge Add-On has 3 output choices, Save as Drafts, Send Later, Send Now. (The instructions warn against using Send Now) > I tried the Save as Drafts function and it performed as promised, creating 3621 individual customized emails in my Account's Draft folder. This, however, makes it so you have to send each email individually. > When I tried the Send Later function, it appeared to work, but a Local Folders > Unsent Messages folder never appeared. I searched all my other email accounts and finally found it in the one Old Defunct email account list that I never use anymore. It does appear to have created all 3621 emails. > I tried to Drag & Drop it into the Local Folders stack, but received an error message that a folder of that name already exists there, even though it does not appear in the list of folders. > I tried repairing folders, compressing folders and was not able to move it or even create a new one of that name and copy the contents. > I would like advice on how to proceed to complete moving/copying the Unsent Messages folder to its proper location in the Local Folders stack. Thank you! greg

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Can I talk to a human being? I would like to switch (maybe) to your email system but the info is bewildering.

There is (of all things!) almost too much information to process about using Firefox's email, messaging, and security options. It seems there is no longer a dedicated ema… (read more)

There is (of all things!) almost too much information to process about using Firefox's email, messaging, and security options. It seems there is no longer a dedicated email application, and I cannot disentangle what I need to do to either move completely from gmail or mask my gmail account somehow through a maze of layers.

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Login to server smtp-mail.outlook.com with username XXXXXX@outlook.com failed.

Login to server smtp-mail.outlook.com with username XXXXXX@outlook.com failed. I am having this error I have tried logging back in, can download mail but not send any. A… (read more)

Login to server smtp-mail.outlook.com with username XXXXXX@outlook.com failed.


I am having this error I have tried logging back in, can download mail but not send any. Any ideas? Thank you

Open 4

Yahoo folder creation

Hi, I have a Yahoo account in Thunderbird. Every time I try to create a folder, it doesn't appear immediately. I have to close Thunderbird and reopen it to see the new fo… (read more)

Hi, I have a Yahoo account in Thunderbird. Every time I try to create a folder, it doesn't appear immediately. I have to close Thunderbird and reopen it to see the new folder on my folder list. This doesn't happen with other email accounts, like Gmail or NetworkSolutions, only with Yahoo.

Thank you for any information on how to correct it, or whether other people are having the same problem.

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