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When opening Thunderbird on Wayland with Nvidia drivers it breaks other apps. Specifically Spectacle, KDEs screenshot tool. I am here to help supply any logs or error reports to help fix this.

Debian 13 with KDE

Nvidia 590 drivers

Wayland session

I have used Thunderbird for many years and and have loved it. However, recently my "Local Folders Inbox" have been extremely slow (deleting emails, reviewing an email, etc.). I have tried every suggestion that I have found without any change: reducing emails in the folder (down to about 75 remaining), compacting and repairing the folder, deleting and rebuilding all of the msf files and global database, disabling all addons, empty trash and junk, clear the cache, disable hardware acceleration, exclusion in antivirus, etc. It has become very frustrating. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

I posted this question some time back but didn't receive any helpful answers and don't know where my post is. In the upper right-hand corner there is suppose to be 3 symbols. One to lower the app, one to make the app full screen or partial and one with an X. I have jumbled symbols where the 3 good ones are. It does it in trouble shoot mode. I tried disabling addons but I can't get the normal symbols back. Here's what it looks like... Thank you for any help.

When I use picture-in-picture for any video, all of my firefox browser windows go unresponsive. I can move the cursor around, but it won't allow me to click on anything. The only way to stop it is to open a brand new window which makes it responsive again and then close out of the PIP video. Sometimes it lets me go back to using the browser as normal, and other times it causes all firefox windows to crash. I'm using Windows 10. This issue only began happening about 10-ish days ago.

The Crash Report IDs are: bp-42f92617-671a-4e30-9d32-e1def0260302 bp-64cb35b0-5ab7-4b9d-8a80-7d2470260302

Tbird (v16. 1) for android installed on my Pixel 9a connected to my gmail account. Gmail client runs perfectly connected to same account while Tbird starts with a blank screen i.e no messages. App appears to be frozen but later displays messages. General operation seems sluggish - enough to turn me back to the Gmail client (which I don't like) but at least I can navigate my email without waiting. Any suggestions please?

while browsing, it keeps stopping all the time. after entering a site it slow down. crashes the site. but the features are good. I enjoyed the features. please fix the errors on android app.

If I'm on a website and let's say I'm reading an article and I'm midway, if I switch to another app momentarily for a few seconds (eg go to a messenger app to send a quick message) most of the time when I get back to Firefox it seems to reload the app and refreshes the page. This makes me lose my scroll position and progress. This doesn't happen on other browsers like Vivaldi,it feels like aggressive memory management. Please fix this if possible because I don't think it's my phone's issue , I have a Xiaomi 14 Ultra with 16gb of ram and Android 16 (latest hyper os 3.0.3)!

I have around 20 tabs in my firefox browser about tarding they all keep refreshing at the background when i am using firefox,its causing my Laptop battery drainage

I have several Windows 7 computers running Thunderbird and have 13 POP3 accounts to retrieve. These computers work fine. It takes about 5 seconds to check all 13 accounts if there is nothing new to download. I have two Windows 11 computers that take about 50 seconds to go through these same accounts under the same conditions (nothing new to download). I have done a lot of searching for answers, but nothing helpful has come up. Any ideas on what might be causing this? Seems like it would be a common problem as both Windows 11 computers do the same thing. Both are Windows 11 Pro. Thanks for any guidance.

My TB 147.0.2 Release channel is using excessive amounts of memory. Below is the memory usage data.

Previously I was on the ESR channel for many years. Also I originally used the Lightning calendar plug.

What I'm seeing is that when TB starts the memory usage is high. If I check at another time on the same day it is sometimes only around 250-350MB.

I've tried suggest options like reducing data in Local Folders (on a separate data drive) but to no avail. As I type now TB memory usage is now only 286.4MB. However rest assured in a while this will jump back to over 3GB and it has an is now 3,151.4MB.

I don't see this on another 2 PCs. One is setup with Locals Folders and the other is just the mail Inbox and sub folders. The only other difference is that the PC with this TB installation also has one Newsgroup server configured.

There surely has to be a bug somewhere causing these excessive memory usages.

Main Process (pid 13380) Explicit Allocations

3,313,474,259 B (100.0%) -- explicit ├──3,179,427,220 B (95.95%) ── heap-unclassified ├─────38,393,176 B (01.16%) ++ window-objects ├─────38,283,520 B (01.16%) ++ js-non-window ├─────23,911,654 B (00.72%) ++ startup-cache ├─────11,605,760 B (00.35%) ++ storage ├──────5,005,920 B (00.15%) ++ images ├──────4,031,040 B (00.12%) ++ threads ├──────2,866,272 B (00.09%) ++ layout ├──────2,273,616 B (00.07%) ++ script-preloader ├──────1,422,800 B (00.04%) ── icu ├──────1,083,184 B (00.03%) ++ xpconnect ├────────917,568 B (00.03%) ++ dom ├────────704,416 B (00.02%) ++ atoms ├────────627,133 B (00.02%) ++ preferences ├────────546,544 B (00.02%) ++ gfx ├────────360,720 B (00.01%) ++ cycle-collector ├────────328,720 B (00.01%) ++ telemetry ├────────318,528 B (00.01%) ++ phc ├────────312,608 B (00.01%) ++ fog ├────────305,312 B (00.01%) ++ url-preloader ├────────212,528 B (00.01%) ++ network ├────────212,480 B (00.01%) ++ string-bundles ├────────166,128 B (00.01%) ++ data-storage ├─────────80,048 B (00.00%) ── profiler/profiler-state ├─────────42,356 B (00.00%) ── skia-font-cache ├─────────19,024 B (00.00%) ++ xpcom ├─────────10,064 B (00.00%) ── memory-reporter-manager ├──────────3,312 B (00.00%) ── xul-prototype-cache/other ├──────────1,904 B (00.00%) ── cookie-service ├────────────624 B (00.00%) ── history-links-hashtable ├─────────────80 B (00.00%) ── cert-storage/storage ├──────────────0 B (00.00%) ── maildb/database(UNKNOWN-FOLDER) ├──────────────0 B (00.00%) ── media/libogg ├──────────────0 B (00.00%) ── spell-check └──────────────0 B (00.00%) ++ webgl

Other Measurements

140,737,488,289,792 B (100.0%) -- address-space ├──138,527,509,839,872 B (98.43%) ── free(segments=402) ├────2,206,026,694,656 B (01.57%) ++ reserved └────────3,951,755,264 B (00.00%) ++ commit

273,510,400 B (100.0%) -- decommitted ├──269,578,240 B (98.56%) -- heap │ ├──268,451,840 B (98.15%) ── decommitted │ └────1,126,400 B (00.41%) ++ unused-pages └────3,932,160 B (01.44%) ── js-non-window/gc-heap/decommitted-pages

5,245 (100.0%) -- event-counts └──5,245 (100.0%) ++ window-objects

1 (100.0%) -- extensions └──1 (100.0%) ── Extension(id=default-theme@mozilla.org, name="System theme — auto", baseURL=moz-extension://d69e3532-324c-43f3-959c-7bc3f6aad1c5/)

3,580,661,760 B (100.0%) -- heap ├──3,311,083,520 B (92.47%) -- committed │ ├──3,272,606,352 B (91.40%) ── allocated │ ├─────28,273,376 B (00.79%) ── bookkeeping │ ├──────8,202,000 B (00.23%) ++ bin-unused │ ├──────1,785,856 B (00.05%) ── unused-pages/dirty │ └────────215,936 B (00.01%) ── waste └────269,578,240 B (07.53%) ++ decommitted

4,942,128 B (100.0%) -- images └──4,942,128 B (100.0%) -- content

  ├──4,934,128 B (99.84%) ++ vector
  └──────8,000 B (00.16%) ++ raster/used

19 (100.0%) -- ipc-channels ├───3 (15.79%) ── PBackgroundParent ├───3 (15.79%) ── PProfilerParent ├───1 (05.26%) ── PAPZInputBridgeChild ├───1 (05.26%) ── PBackgroundStarterParent ├───1 (05.26%) ── PCanvasManagerChild ├───1 (05.26%) ── PCompositorManagerChild ├───1 (05.26%) ── PContentParent ├───1 (05.26%) ── PGPUChild ├───1 (05.26%) ── PImageBridgeChild ├───1 (05.26%) ── PProcessHangMonitorParent ├───1 (05.26%) ── PRDDChild ├───1 (05.26%) ── PRemoteWorkerDebuggerManagerParent ├───1 (05.26%) ── PRemoteWorkerServiceParent ├───1 (05.26%) ── PVRManagerChild └───1 (05.26%) ── PVsyncBridgeChild

20 (100.0%) -- ipc-channels-peak ├───3 (15.00%) ── PBackgroundParent ├───3 (15.00%) ── PProfilerParent ├───2 (10.00%) ── PAPZInputBridgeChild ├───1 (05.00%) ── PBackgroundStarterParent ├───1 (05.00%) ── PCanvasManagerChild ├───1 (05.00%) ── PCompositorManagerChild ├───1 (05.00%) ── PContentParent ├───1 (05.00%) ── PGPUChild ├───1 (05.00%) ── PImageBridgeChild ├───1 (05.00%) ── PProcessHangMonitorParent ├───1 (05.00%) ── PRDDChild ├───1 (05.00%) ── PRemoteWorkerDebuggerManagerParent ├───1 (05.00%) ── PRemoteWorkerServiceParent ├───1 (05.00%) ── PVRManagerChild └───1 (05.00%) ── PVsyncBridgeChild

8 (100.0%) -- js-helper-threads ├──8 (100.0%) ── idle └──0 (00.00%) ── active

47,463,752 B (100.0%) -- js-main-runtime ├──17,759,904 B (37.42%) ++ realms ├──16,789,232 B (35.37%) ++ zones ├──11,440,056 B (24.10%) ── runtime └───1,474,560 B (03.11%) ++ gc-heap

11,691,152 B (100.0%) -- js-main-runtime-gc-buffers ├──11,270,624 B (96.40%) ── used ├─────218,656 B (01.87%) ── free └─────201,872 B (01.73%) ── admin

24,379,392 B (100.0%) -- js-main-runtime-gc-heap-committed ├──20,174,072 B (82.75%) ++ used └───4,205,320 B (17.25%) ++ unused

20 (100.0%) -- js-main-runtime-realms ├──13 (65.00%) ++ system └───7 (35.00%) ++ user

21 (100.0%) -- message-manager └──21 (100.0%) -- referent

  ├──10 (47.62%) -- child-process-manager
  │  ├──10 (47.62%) ── strong
  │  └───0 (00.00%) -- weak
  │      ├──0 (00.00%) ── alive
  │      └──0 (00.00%) ── dead
  ├───6 (28.57%) -- parent-process-manager
  │   ├──6 (28.57%) ── strong
  │   └──0 (00.00%) -- weak
  │      ├──0 (00.00%) ── alive
  │      └──0 (00.00%) ── dead
  └───5 (23.81%) -- global-manager
      ├──5 (23.81%) ── strong
      └──0 (00.00%) -- weak
         ├──0 (00.00%) ── alive
         └──0 (00.00%) ── dead

1,924 (100.0%) -- observer-service └──1,924 (100.0%) ++ referent

868 (100.0%) -- observer-service-suspect ├──437 (50.35%) ── referent(topic=xpcom-shutdown) ├──225 (25.92%) ── referent(topic=memory-pressure) └──206 (23.73%) ── referent(topic=last-pb-context-exited)

363 (100.0%) -- preference-service └──363 (100.0%) ++ referent

0 (100.0%) -- queued-ipc-messages └──0 (100.0%) ── content-parent(Browser, pid=2140, open channel, 0x228780fb828, refcnt=35)

147,366 B (100.0%) -- shared-string-bundles ├───65,420 B (44.39%) ── SharedStringBundle(url="chrome://global/locale/dom/dom.properties", shared=true, refCount=2, sharedMemorySize=65420) ├───24,560 B (16.67%) ── SharedStringBundle(url="chrome://global/locale/layout/htmlparser.properties", shared=true, refCount=2, sharedMemorySize=24560) ├───22,528 B (15.29%) ── SharedStringBundle(url="chrome://global/locale/security/security.properties", shared=true, refCount=2, sharedMemorySize=22528) ├───11,830 B (08.03%) ── SharedStringBundle(url="chrome://necko/locale/necko.properties", shared=true, refCount=2, sharedMemorySize=11830) ├────7,420 B (05.04%) ── SharedStringBundle(url="chrome://global/locale/css.properties", shared=true, refCount=2, sharedMemorySize=7420) ├────6,190 B (04.20%) ── SharedStringBundle(url="chrome://global/locale/layout_errors.properties", shared=true, refCount=2, sharedMemorySize=6190) ├────2,756 B (01.87%) ── SharedStringBundle(url="chrome://global/locale/commonDialogs.properties", shared=true, refCount=2, sharedMemorySize=2756) ├────2,358 B (01.60%) ── SharedStringBundle(url="chrome://global/locale/printing.properties", shared=true, refCount=2, sharedMemorySize=2358) ├────2,174 B (01.48%) ── SharedStringBundle(url="chrome://global/locale/layout/HtmlForm.properties", shared=true, refCount=2, sharedMemorySize=2174) ├────1,488 B (01.01%) ── SharedStringBundle(url="chrome://global/locale/mathml/mathml.properties", shared=true, refCount=2, sharedMemorySize=1488) ├──────246 B (00.17%) ── SharedStringBundle(url="chrome://branding/locale/brand.properties", shared=true, refCount=2, sharedMemorySize=246) ├──────226 B (00.15%) ── SharedStringBundle(url="chrome://global/locale/xul.properties", shared=true, refCount=2, sharedMemorySize=226) └──────170 B (00.12%) ── SharedStringBundle(url="chrome://global/locale/svg/svg.properties", shared=true, refCount=2, sharedMemorySize=170)

28,598,376 B (100.0%) -- window-objects ├──16,114,528 B (56.35%) ++ dom ├──12,432,968 B (43.47%) ++ layout └──────50,880 B (00.18%) ── property-tables

          262,144 B ── font-list-shmem
                0 B ── gfx-textures
                0 B ── gfx-textures-peak
                0 B ── gfx-tiles-waste
                  0 ── ghost-windows
                0 B ── gpu-committed
                0 B ── gpu-dedicated
                0 B ── gpu-shared
    3,272,606,352 B ── heap-allocated
        1,048,576 B ── heap-chunksize
                  0 ── imagelib-surface-cache-already-present-count
          304,880 B ── imagelib-surface-cache-estimated-locked
          314,928 B ── imagelib-surface-cache-estimated-total
                 85 ── imagelib-surface-cache-image-count
                 52 ── imagelib-surface-cache-image-surface-count
                 85 ── imagelib-surface-cache-locked-image-count
                 45 ── imagelib-surface-cache-locked-surfaces-count
                  0 ── imagelib-surface-cache-overflow-count
                  0 ── imagelib-surface-cache-table-failure-count
                  7 ── imagelib-surface-cache-tracked-cost-count
                  7 ── imagelib-surface-cache-tracked-expiry-count
                  0 ── imagelib-surface-cache-tracking-failure-count
          454,656 B ── js-main-runtime-temporary-peak
                  8 ── js-main-runtime-zone-count
    3,386,552,320 B ── private
    3,497,312,256 B ── resident
    3,369,873,408 B ── resident-unique
       29,638,345 B ── shmem-allocated
        2,612,339 B ── shmem-mapped
        6,256,466 B ── system-heap-allocated
2,209,978,449,920 B ── vsize

70,172,792,717,312 B ── vsize-max-contiguous

                0 B ── wasm-runtime
                  0 ── webgl-buffer-count
                0 B ── webgl-buffer-memory
                  0 ── webgl-context-count
                  0 ── webgl-renderbuffer-count
                0 B ── webgl-renderbuffer-memory
                  0 ── webgl-shader-count
                  0 ── webgl-texture-count
                0 B ── webgl-texture-memory

End of Main Process (pid 13380)

Thunderbird used to easy and quick to use - now it is slow and cumbersome. For instance, to get it to send an email there is a delay now. It just seems to be freezing up. Lynn

In a thread discussion about the flag, "browser.tabs.unloadOnLowMemory" dated 23-Nov-2022 (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33706117) it was mentioned that we've disabled tab unloading on Linux because low-memory detection just didn't work.

Has the issue been fixed? Does the low-memory detection work in Linux? Can it be enabled now?

Does it get triggered when SWAP is being used? Or when system free RAM falls say to about 25% of total physical RAM?

Hi, I’ve been using Thunderbird, but after installation it’s taking up 128GB of disk space. That seems unusually large — could you please help check what might be causing this?

Hi,

When switching from FF 128esr to 140esr our customers noticed a massive impact in performance for certain webapplications. All Applications effected heavily use pdf-files, users are working mostly exclusive in firefox. Performance is ok when the day starts but gets bad fast. Sooner or later working is no longer possible and firefox needs to be restarted.

The users work on Citrix Desktops, but difference in performance is also seen in Firefox localy (not as bad but its there). Cross-tests with another browser are not possible, because the application works only in FF.

We tried removing almost all policies effective to rule out a specific hardening setting We tried every setting we could find linked to cache (as it seemed related to that) but without success. We collected logs with the Firefox-internal Tools but could not identify a specific Problem.

Any Help is apreciated, thx in advance