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Hello, ever since we moved endpoints from Firefox ESR 91.13 to 102.3, it has become impossible to play any media with Firefox.

No video will play in youtube, for instance (it just loads endlessly as if it would start, but it doesn't).

Can't use radio websites either. Anything with a "play" button (video or sound) does nothing.

This has been tested with a clean profile, a clean install, after allowing autoplay in the settings.

Is there any info on what exactly changed between ESR 91 and 102 that might explain this ? There has been no system change, If I reinstall 91 instead it works again as usual.

No issues anywhere else on the endpoints (Edge, Windows), this is on Windows 10 if it makes any difference.

Tanks for any help on this.

Can anyone let me know the 'shape' of a correct profiles file. I have a relatively small number of emails in the system (perhaps 1000 or so??) but my profiles file is a gigantic 4.5Gby with 63k files in 83 folders. I feel this can't be right. There are hundrends of 'mini files' that are meaningless to me. This large file seems to be giving Tundebird indegestion at times when it says that it can't transfer a file from one folder to aother. I guess I could scrap it and start again but that would obviously mean l lose all my emails and addresses. Is there any way to 'clean' the profiles file and reduce the size. The compact facility doesn't seem to do this for me.

Thanks, Terry

Every time I download new version of thunderbird I suddenly cannot send emails, I can receive fine. It's so maddening ughh Once this happens I spend many hours searching support and it takes forever to find the answer. Some times it's a simple server setting change is the fix or adding @.... after the username but now this is not working

Please please help

Sending of the message failed. An error occurred while sending mail: Outgoing server (SMTP) error. The server responded: shw-obgw-4003a.ext.cloudfilter.net cmsmtp 138.199.21.216 is listed on Cloudmark CSI-Global. Please visit:// https AUP#IPBL100

My settings are: SMTP port 587 starttls normal password

Server serrings pop.shaw.ca port 995 ssl/tls normal password

Many thanks in advance

I have no idea what is happening... But after restarting, clearing my cache, making sure I have data and it is working for other apps... Still no results.

No matter what, whether I try to type in a URL, click on a link in the google app, or refresh a page I already have open, the app doesn't even attempt to load a page or throw up an error. Just a blank background, no loading bar, no error messages, and no redirects...

FF for Android Version 112.2.0 Build #2015946691

Hello! I updated FLOORP on the 5th May, FLOORP crashed and then Brave, Firefox, Waterfox, LibreWolf and Vivaldi started crashing. I had Brave and Vivaldi open when I launched FLOORP and FLOORP asked consent to update itself and after updating, it did not open in “previous session” and I could not open “previous session” through History. When I launched “Settings” from menu, “previous session” opened! I had pinned “Settings” earlier.

Now the bizarre happens; suddenly LibreWolf launches by itself also without “previous session” and open tabs in Brave and Vivaldi disappear to single New Tab. After some tinkering, I was able to restore “previous session” in LibreWolf, Brave and Vivaldi.

Now I close all browsers and open Firefox, no “previous session” and some random windows in its history, opening these random windows also opened “previous session”! 🙄But then Waterfox launches also without “previous session”, here clicking on OneTab extension recovered “previous session”.

Cutting short; I uninstalled, Waterfox, LibreWolf and FLOORP, this did not help, I ran System Restore twice to two different points and it has not resolved the issue.

Thankful for any help!

TB working fine, then next day opens up as Blank screen and a setup tab Profile shows to be still there as do mail folders .... so need to recreate profile.

Created a new Profile I copied over the folders:

 IMAPmail
 Mail

and the following files

 key3.db
 logins.json
 cert8.db

and all of the pref.js files (1 through to 141)

The profile folder does show new profile active ( as per this pic https://flic.kr/p/2pjRyRz)

I created the 2 IMAP account login details, I now have access to the inbox for 2 IMAP account, but I do not have any the filed mail (local folders) how do I get these back. This is an important item for me as many years of filed emails.

I was using thunderbird. I accidentally hit the sort by star right above the email list. The application crashed closed. When I reopen it, it immediately crash closes. I can't even get an pointer arrow for long enough to exit myself.

On window 10. Thunderbird was up to date.

Tried - restarting computer. Signing out of TB in the crash report box. Can't get into safe mode.

How do I correct my serious error (when tired) in allowing a Thunderbird 'Upgrade' 115.2.2 (32 Bit) Supernova to install on my Laptop (Windows 10 Home, 64 Bit). I failed to read the Release Notes by trusting Mozilla wouldn't issue such a drastic change without Warnings as it was not just an 'Upgrade'! It has screwed up my Set up, Folders etc., completely changed layout, can't find 'Write Message' tab etc. etc . etc.

The previous Thunderbird Version had many problems further introduced by 'Upgrades' but was at least still had continuity with earlier Versions with a functional MMI (man machine interface) instead of all the changes introduced with the 115.2.2, which in my opinion should be withdrawn completely. N.B My experience in Systems Control, as an Air Traffic Control Engineer, we would throw this out as not fit for purpose.

Help Please and explain how can I revert back to an Earlier Version?

Hi Everyone, IPv6 not working in Firefox, but in Google Chrome, Windows CMD, Microsoft Edge, and Opera is working fine, I'm using Cisco Secure Client as a VPN Client, and connect to the VPN IPv6 will enable and you can use IPv6 easily, but in Firefox only IPv4 working, and the problem only in Firefox

When I scroll down to look at recent posts on Facebook groups I follow all but the top one has suddenly lost its date/time – I just get a blank where the details would usually be and have to hover over to reveal the details. The silly thing is that this only happens when I sign in and it doesn’t happen when I use chrome – although I prefer using Firefox, not least because the bookmarks sidebar is better. I have tried getting rid of all extensions and running in troubleshoot mode but without success. Any help/advice would be appreciated (as long as it is not about football!)

Hi all,

Just upgraded to Thunderbird 115(from the last Non beta version).

I have multiple email accounts.

When I click to the inbox off one of my gmail accounts it does not display to the last message received. Thunderbird opens to a message about 1/4 up into my inbox.

I have a second gmail account and this behavior does not occur.

I'm sure its a easy fix, I just can't figure it out .

James

Getting this message as of today when trying to connect to my Outlook/Microsoft Office 365 e-mail account. No change of password or any security settings were done. Googling for the error reveals plenty of other folks coming across it in Thunderbird but not one working fix. Plenty of TB blaming Microsoft and vice versa. IMAP access is still working on iOS so that does strongly suggest a Thunderbird side problem.

Please no "switch to a different email provider" proposed solutions that isn't helpful.

I don't know when it started (quite awhile), but when I go to some websites even in FF safe mode, I wait a long time but get nothing displayed and it stops spinning/waiting (the circle arrow upper left stops). Occasionally when I reload, it comes up but usually it doesn't. Other websites it works fine.

In fact, if I browse to some websites, sit and wait awhile, then go to chrome or edge, type in the same website, the page displays even while FF is sitting there waiting.

ebay.com seems to work great, but for instance this morning, this one doesn't: https://www.crowdpac.com/news/741938 but sometimes this works: https://www.crowdpac.com then try it again (refresh) and it never responds.

And in fact, I'm using Edge to submit this question because when I browsed to https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/new/desktop#search in Firefox/Safe and clicked on the Sign-In/Up button, nothing happened. With Edge it worked fine and I'm able to type this in.

The message field is too narrow for all messages, except pure text messages. A screenshot is attached. How can I modify the userChrome.css so that all available space gets used?

For the past two months, my Firefox Linux keeps crashing. I don't know why.

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This report also contains technical information about the state of the application when it crashed.

For the last several weeks (can't give an exact date, but it's been more than just a couple weeks, less than a couple months), both my husband and I have had issues loading videos in FF. We both have the latest version of FF. I went thru "Fix common audio and video issues" and did all those things, as well as trying to load the videos in troubleshooting mode. Nothing has helped (tho now that i cleared all the cache, i'm gonna have to log back into all those websites :( ). Nothing else is problematic. Our internet connection is fine. In fact, my husband has resorted to using MS browser to watch videos--they load fine in that browser. I have no other idea what to do. Searching your database for "youtube videos load slow" only resulted in a couple hits with no resolution. Hopefully this isn't the third. thanks

My microsoft rewards dashboard floating task flickers when I hover my mouse to the edge of that on the dashboard... need help with it please I have windows 11 computer and it's a hp

I have had the same issues with TB freezing and locking up my PC that many here have had. For me, this has now gone on for almost 3 years. I have done everything I can think of, and everything I have read about online to deal with the constant freezing. I have: --upgraded countless times (now on Ver 102.9.0, 64 bit, Win 10, 32GB RAM, 3TB hard drive) --reinstalled Thunderbird many times --deleted various profiles and created new ones, deleted various config files as suggested. --reinstalled Windows 10, upgraded all associated files, drivers, etc. --started Windows in Safe Mode --disabled all add-ons and extensions in TB --reset all toolbars and controls in TB --started Thunderbird in Troubleshoot Mode --gave an exception to TB in my Windows Defender [and turned off Defender entirely] --ran MANY virus scans --disabled ALL virus software

Thunderbird is the ONLY piece of software on this PC that locks it up. It exhibits the same behavior that many here are seeing: freezes when I try to click on something; freezes when I try to reply to an email; freezes for no apparent reason. I can't MAKE it freeze up... it just seems to do it at random, constantly. Right now, it's open on another screen and has been frozen for about 3 minutes, and just unfroze. Most of the time, it freezes so that I cannot shut TB down. It is completely unresponsive. Sometimes it will freeze the computer so that I cannot do ANYTHING... I cannot open Task Manager and force a shutdown. Eventually, it releases and works again, only to freeze up a few minutes later.

I'm pretty much out of ideas, but I continue to browse online, looking for answers. As I said, three years of this is enough, and I see complaints about this going back even further. I love Thunderbird. I'm a longtime user and have not found any email client that comes close to the way TB works for me, so I'm VERY reluctant to leave. But I'm really tired of being a beta tester. And yes, I have donated many times over the years, and I'm happy to do so. I'm not concerned with the money. I just want it to work like it used to. If you have any fresh ideas, I'm very open to hearing them. But a warning, that I have likely already tried the fixes offered. I appreciate any input, in any event.

So, unless a miracle comes along, I reckon I'll have to cut bait and find a replacement for Thunderbird. Thanks for allowing me to blow off some long-held frustration.

best,

--john