I have tried filing a bug, but Mozilla appear to be stone deaf. So I am trying a support request on how to get off this merry-go-round. It is not fun anymore
Update Channel nightly User Agent Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/67.0 OS Windows_NT 10.0
Just to be obvious.... the solution is not to stop using Nightly. If it is to stop using Mozilla browsers, so be it.
The new and incredibly horrible @google search is completely annoying and disconcerting. I start to type in a box in the middle of the page and the insertion point moves and I find myself typing in the url bar, because where I was typing has now disappeared..... get this guys. The awesome bar was a failure. If I wanted to search from that point, I would type my search in there. You know, that box beside the URL that says search. I do not. So unless I can turn this off I will have to just stop searching using Mozilla provided dialogs and go back to the Internet explored 2 way and start going to my home page again, I want out of this user interface nightmare. How do I do it? I have words that describe my feeling but they are not suitable for a public forum.
Now I get stopped dead in my tracks so the browser can update itself. It refuses point plank to do anything but display an inane message that it wants to restart. I have been restarting it when I was ready, but apparently user choice is another thing that has met it's demise in the Mozilla laser focus now the prodict refuses to function unless I restart
So here I am typing in the search in a place I did not intend because someone as Mozilla though it would be a good idea to turn my cursor into a bouncy ball. This is not pong. And I type my query and instead of the results, nope. Firefox is on strike. It will be doing nothing until I restart it.
Thought that is poor, I will take a screen shot... no that stuff is also gone because well I don't know really. but my work flow stops for two or three minutes while Firefox restarts, not because I said now was good. Because the product completely failed in all ways to perform it's function as a browser. Then I get to go to each of the tabs that was supposed to be loading when the restart occurred and select the URL bar and press enter to make the page load because unlike the advertising, it did not work that way at all. So how to I turn this abysmal feature off so I can restart when I am ready, not when the download is done.
Come on, I am getting tired. Instead of doing a couple of last things before bed I am writing a support request to learn how to opt out of this stupidity. I want to use the machine when it suits me and restart my browser when it suits me, it might not be until tomorrow. But if this "feature" get to mainstream as is, I am out of here. Firefox will be down another user completely disappointed that user choice is gone from yet another project.
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The Nightly development channel builds gets checkins with two updates each day so sometimes this can lead to issues until fixed, finished, or reverted. It is meant more for Developers and Testers in mind and not regular Firefox users. If you want to Test Nightly channel builds then the Builds threads in http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=23 is helpful.
Release < Beta (b#) < Nightly (a1) . There is also Developers Edition though it is basically same as Beta but with additional developer features.
If you want more stability (and fewer frequent updates) then use the Release channel (current is 65.0.2) or Beta channel builds. Keep in mind a version on the Beta channel can get say nine to fourteen plus updates.
Just to be obvious.... the solution is not to stop using Nightly. If it is to stop using Mozilla browsers, so be it.
Not much point saying I do not intend to stop using nightly is there?
Nor is there any instruction on how to opt out of the two features that make me wild every time I find myself forced to have them around. So is there an opt out of do I have to vote with my feet? That is all I ask. I have chrome installed, it is just am matter of using it instead.
Is user choice important anymore? I don't think so.
The new and incredibly horrible @google search is completely annoying and disconcerting. I start to type in a box in the middle of the page and the insertion point moves and I find myself typing in the url bar, because where I was typing has now disappeared..... get this guys.
Are you talking about trying to use the search bar as soon as you open Firefox?
I suspect so, because I get pretty much the same as you are describing. The focus of the cursor appears in the Location Bar like a half-minute after Firefox is opened and interrupts (or prevents) what I was trying to do immediately after I open Firefox Quantum.
And IMO, that is due to the amount of time that it takes for Quantum to run its launch processes especially the first time each day when Firefox checks for the availability of an update, not only for Firefox but also it checks for add-ons updates. And with you running the Nightly version, it may check for updates every damn time you open it unlike the Release version (and possibly Beta) where it checks once each day on 'first launch'. I haven't run Nightly since Firefox 4.0 was released, 9 years ago. But I can imagine how painful it might be now for someone who isn't a serious tester of alpha stage software who is trying to assist in the development process.
I get a similar delay in being able to use Firefox during the 'first launch' with the Release version and it is worse with the non-default Profile that I have heavily modified with extensions and userChrome.css mods. Three times as long to do the 'first launch' (like 45 seconds), where the Default (un-modified) Profile takes like 15 seconds. Launch times after the 'first' tend to be shorter, but no where as fast as Firefox would fully open and be useable as with the Australis versions (Fx56 and prior).
And if you haven't disabled Snippets and Pocket on the Homepage, retrieving fresh information on 'first launch' can further increase the 'first launch' times.
I gotta say that if you can't cope with the foibles involved with using Nightly, why bother running on the cusp of development? As frustrated as you sound, how do you think that by using Nightly you are helping with the development process?
Why not just switch to Google Chrome and live the Chrome updater executable process running the whole time that your PC is turned on. No need to restart Chrome after an update is automatically installed for you, the updates are installed silently behind the scenes even when Chrome isn't running; when that happens the update is completed when the user opens Chrome.
The launch process sends 'focus' the the Location Bar as the last operation, that is probably when you get shifted out of the search container on the Homepage
This is admittedly nightly, but the @google rubbish has been around there for about 2 weeks.
Go to a new tab. About the top site: Is a dialog in which you type search terms. Except now you position the cursor there and as soon as you start Typing the dialog disappears, your cursor jumps to the URL bar and you find yourself typing after @google on the URL bar. I have not tried another provider, but I assume if I went to big I would get @bing. But I do not know, I only assume. This is not some delay in start up. It is a deliberate and most disconcerting feature.
As the image I posted also shows. Updates stop any function at all until you restart. No point moaning about having a permanent updater. I don't like it, but I am getting to the tipping point where chrome is favorable. Not because chrome is getting better, because Firefox is disappointing me. Over and over. Even Microsoft do no just restart and refuse to load further pages/documents until I restart. My anti virus asks me if I would please and get a little more excited every day it waits. Not the Mozilla product. Update now. Your work is stopped. No more pages will load until you restart. Oh, and restarting is also sort of broken.