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Store passwords or master password in GNOME keyring

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Up to the previous Thunderbird version, I securely stored my passwords in the GNOME keyring using the add-on at https://github.com/swick/mozilla-gnome-keyring. My system is Xubuntu 16.04LTS.

Apparently, with the latest update, this add-on was silently removed due to incompatibility. I just realized by chance that my passwords are now stored unencrypted!

How can I store the passwords, or at least the master password, into the GNOME keyring with current versions of Thunderbird? Typing it manually at Thunderbird launch is a huge usability downgrade, compared to the perfectly working solution that was available before with the add-on.

I seem to understand that it is not at all the add-on developers fault that the add-on has not been made compatible, but the required API functionality is not provided by Mozilla. Is that correct?

Up to the previous Thunderbird version, I securely stored my passwords in the GNOME keyring using the add-on at https://github.com/swick/mozilla-gnome-keyring. My system is Xubuntu 16.04LTS. Apparently, with the latest update, this add-on was silently removed due to incompatibility. I just realized by chance that my passwords are now stored unencrypted! How can I store the passwords, or at least the master password, into the GNOME keyring with current versions of Thunderbird? Typing it manually at Thunderbird launch is a huge usability downgrade, compared to the perfectly working solution that was available before with the add-on. I seem to understand that it is not at all the add-on developers fault that the add-on has not been made compatible, but the required API functionality is not provided by Mozilla. Is that correct?

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christ1
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You should contact the add-on developer.

You should contact the add-on developer.

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It seems clear from https://github.com/swick/mozilla-gnome-keyring/issues/48 and from many related issues for other password-managing apps that the required and previously working interface was removed by Mozilla.

My main question was: How can I store the passwords, or at least the master password, into the GNOME keyring with current versions of Thunderbird?

It seems clear from https://github.com/swick/mozilla-gnome-keyring/issues/48 and from many related issues for other password-managing apps that the required and previously working interface was removed by Mozilla. My main question was: '''How can I store the passwords, or at least the master password, into the GNOME keyring with current versions of Thunderbird?'''
christ1
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It seems clear from https://github.com/swick/mozilla-gnome-keyring/issues/48 and from many related issues for other password-managing apps that the required and previously working interface was removed by Mozilla.

This is about Firefox Webextensions. I don't see anything there about Thunderbird.

How can I store the passwords, or at least the master password, into the GNOME keyring with current versions of Thunderbird?

Once again, if an extension is required for this, and the extension stopped working, you'll need to contact the extension developer. Good luck.

<blockquote> It seems clear from https://github.com/swick/mozilla-gnome-keyring/issues/48 and from many related issues for other password-managing apps that the required and previously working interface was removed by Mozilla. </blockquote> This is about Firefox Webextensions. I don't see anything there about Thunderbird. <blockquote> How can I store the passwords, or at least the master password, into the GNOME keyring with current versions of Thunderbird? </blockquote> Once again, if an extension is required for this, and the extension stopped working, you'll need to contact the extension developer. Good luck.

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I have used this add-on on both Firefox and Thunderbird successfully until recently. It first stopped working on Firefox, and now on Thunderbird. According to this, it seems reasonable to assume that the underlying cause is the same, ie the move to web extensions.

What I really like to establish is how Thunderbird (ie. the developers, or someone who has actual knowledge about the subject) sees that safe (i.e. encrypted) strorage of passwords works without the unbearable hassle of entering a separate master password just for Thunderbird.

All this was working perfectly until the previous version of Thunderbird. As for Firefox, I had unfortunately to dump it for Chromium due to exactly the same reason, but I would rather avoid this for Thunderbird, not least because there is no better alternative.

Some possible option that I now came across is the new KeeBird extension. It needs an extra install of KeePass, and some further manipulation to make KeyPass be tied to the GNOME keyring - it seems possible, but way more complicated than before.

A concrete questions to the developers: when will the API be provided that to my knowledge is necessary for extensions like this to be updated for recent versions of Thunderbird? It was clearly stated by the developer of this add-on (and other, similar ones) that they would update if they could.

I have used this add-on on both Firefox and Thunderbird successfully until recently. It first stopped working on Firefox, and now on Thunderbird. According to [https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/thunderbird-will-phase-out-legacy-add-ons-will-support-webextensions/ this], it seems reasonable to assume that the underlying cause is the same, ie the move to web extensions. What I really like to establish is how Thunderbird (ie. the developers, or someone who has actual knowledge about the subject) sees that safe (i.e. encrypted) strorage of passwords works without the unbearable hassle of entering a separate master password just for Thunderbird. All this was working perfectly until the previous version of Thunderbird. As for Firefox, I had unfortunately to dump it for Chromium due to exactly the same reason, but I would rather avoid this for Thunderbird, not least because there is no better alternative. Some possible option that I now came across is the new KeeBird extension. It needs an extra install of KeePass, and some further manipulation to make KeyPass be tied to the GNOME keyring - it seems possible, but way more complicated than before. A concrete questions to the developers: when will the API be provided that to my knowledge is necessary for extensions like [https://github.com/swick/mozilla-gnome-keyring this] to be updated for recent versions of Thunderbird? It was clearly stated by the developer of this add-on (and other, similar ones) that they would update if they could.
christ1
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extensions like this

Latest commit 56f938d on Sep 25, 2016 The extension has been updated the last time about 2 years ago. It doesn't work anymore with the latest version of Thunderbird, and needs to be made compatible again. This is only something the extension developer can do. There's is plenty of documentation out there to aid developers adjusting their extensions.

It was clearly stated by the developer of this add-on (and other, similar ones) that they would update if they could.

Since you didn't provide any reference, I can only guess that this was about converting the extension to a WebExtension. If not converted to a Webextension, that means it will never work again with Firefox. Firefox dropped support for legacy extensions as of version 57. That's irrelevant for Thunderbird. Thunderbird continues to support legacy extensions and doesn't fully support WebExtensions (yet). A developer who cares would know all that.

<blockquote> extensions like this </blockquote> Latest commit 56f938d on Sep 25, 2016 The extension has been updated the last time about 2 years ago. It doesn't work anymore with the latest version of Thunderbird, and needs to be made compatible again. This is only something the extension developer can do. There's is plenty of documentation out there to aid developers adjusting their extensions. <blockquote> It was clearly stated by the developer of this add-on (and other, similar ones) that they would update if they could. </blockquote> Since you didn't provide any reference, I can only guess that this was about converting the extension to a WebExtension. If not converted to a Webextension, that means it will never work again with Firefox. Firefox dropped support for legacy extensions as of version 57. That's irrelevant for Thunderbird. Thunderbird continues to support legacy extensions and doesn't fully support WebExtensions (yet). A developer who cares would know all that.