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I really hate the New Firefox. Add ons no longer work that I use and there are no replacements. Roll back is a security problem. Time to move on to new browser?

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Are you folks planning to rollback to a version that looks and functions like pre version 57? What about the add ons that no longer function? Are you giving up on all these folks who detest the changes? I am about to give up on Firefox. The rolled back version is becoming increasingly unusable and is of course a security problem. Can't stay back, hate the move forward, I guess the time has come to move on.

Are you folks planning to rollback to a version that looks and functions like pre version 57? What about the add ons that no longer function? Are you giving up on all these folks who detest the changes? I am about to give up on Firefox. The rolled back version is becoming increasingly unusable and is of course a security problem. Can't stay back, hate the move forward, I guess the time has come to move on.
FredMcD
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Hi,

The people who answer questions here, for the most part, are other Firefox users volunteering their time (like me), not Mozilla employees or Firefox developers.

If you want to leave feedback for Firefox developers, you can go to the Firefox Help menu and select Submit Feedback... or use this link. Your feedback gets collected by a team of people who read it and gather data about the most common issues.

Hi, The people who answer questions here, for the most part, are other Firefox users volunteering their time (like me), not Mozilla employees or Firefox developers. If you want to leave feedback for Firefox developers, you can go to the Firefox ''Help'' menu and select ''Submit Feedback...'' or use [https://qsurvey.mozilla.com/s3/FirefoxInput/ this link]. Your feedback gets collected by a team of people who read it and gather data about the most common issues.

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That is funny since I followed "Feedback" links in Firefox and it brought me here.

That is funny since I followed "Feedback" links in Firefox and it brought me here.
the-edmeister
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  1. No, that old version is dead and is not going to be restored.
  2. Look for similar extensions that are compatible now.
  3. No Mozilla is not giving up on those users; "change" is a normal part of the evolution of computer software. Stay static for too long, and "you" perish in the marketplace. Rather it seems that is the "users" who are threatening to give up on Firefox, mostly because they can't handle change.


Firefox ESR 52 is the recommended older version. It receives security fixes as needed, at least every 6 weeks until it expires on 08-28-2018 when the next ESR version arrives as an "update" for the current version. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/

But there might be some minor data loss when reverting from Firefox 55 or 56 to ESR 52. That was never a planned event, so changes that were made in Firefox 55 might be slightly incompatible in the older ESR 52 version.

# No, that old version is dead and is not going to be restored. # Look for similar extensions that are compatible now. # No Mozilla is not giving up on those users; "change" is a normal part of the evolution of computer software. Stay static for too long, and "you" perish in the marketplace. Rather it seems that is the "users" who are threatening to give up on Firefox, mostly because they can't handle change. Firefox ESR 52 is the recommended older version. It receives security fixes as needed, at least every 6 weeks until it expires on 08-28-2018 when the next ESR version arrives as an "update" for the current version. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/ But there might be some minor data loss when reverting from Firefox 55 or 56 to ESR 52. That was never a planned event, so changes that were made in Firefox 55 might be slightly incompatible in the older ESR 52 version.

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Hey Edmeister,

Thanks for your feedback, I appreciate your attempt to be helpful even though that bullshit about change was a bit snide. There are no similar extensions, I have looked.

This browser no longer meets my needs and so is obsolete to me. I have played with the older version and it is too dam buggy and gets worse everyday.

I have been through many changes with Firefox since I have been a user almost since day one, I used versions of Mozilla even before Firefox. The changes I have been through with this browser have been for the most part very positive. I embrace change on a daily basis. When change breaks something though you roll back a little and take a fresh start at it.

One good example I have is with Sony Online Entertainment. They changed their core game and overnight lost about 200,000 of their customers or about 3/4s all in the hope of competing with World of Warcraft and their refusal to rollback killed their reputation and eventually their company. I doubt this will kill Firefox but it certainly is not helping.

As with Sony, I will check in now and then to see if it is worth coming back. At the moment I am checking out Edge and it kinda sucks but it streams movies from Amazon and Netflix smoother than FF. Hows that for change? lol

Hey Edmeister, Thanks for your feedback, I appreciate your attempt to be helpful even though that bullshit about change was a bit snide. There are no similar extensions, I have looked. This browser no longer meets my needs and so is obsolete to me. I have played with the older version and it is too dam buggy and gets worse everyday. I have been through many changes with Firefox since I have been a user almost since day one, I used versions of Mozilla even before Firefox. The changes I have been through with this browser have been for the most part very positive. I embrace change on a daily basis. When change breaks something though you roll back a little and take a fresh start at it. One good example I have is with Sony Online Entertainment. They changed their core game and overnight lost about 200,000 of their customers or about 3/4s all in the hope of competing with World of Warcraft and their refusal to rollback killed their reputation and eventually their company. I doubt this will kill Firefox but it certainly is not helping. As with Sony, I will check in now and then to see if it is worth coming back. At the moment I am checking out Edge and it kinda sucks but it streams movies from Amazon and Netflix smoother than FF. Hows that for change? lol
WestEnd 60 solutions 5387 answers

@Stuhero, Addons that don't work with FF57+ isn't FF fault it's the Addon creators whom aren't willing to update so it works with the new FF57+. Reason being for security and stability reason-that is why and if they refuse to update then it behooves on them to fix their Addon creation. So don't lay Addon problems at the feet of FF but at the feet of the Addon creators to fix it.

@Stuhero, Addons that don't work with FF57+ isn't FF fault it's the Addon creators whom aren't willing to update so it works with the new FF57+. Reason being for security and stability reason-that is why and if they refuse to update then it behooves on them to fix their Addon creation. So don't lay Addon problems at the feet of FF but at the feet of the Addon creators to fix it.
jscher2000
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> What about the add ons that no longer function?

What are your critical extensions that don't have a counterpart in Firefox 57+?

In case of multi-functional extensions like Classic Theme Restorer and Tab Mix Plus, which aspects do you rely on?

> What about the add ons that no longer function? What are your critical extensions that don't have a counterpart in Firefox 57+? In case of multi-functional extensions like Classic Theme Restorer and Tab Mix Plus, which aspects do you rely on?

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@jscher2000

"StumbleUpon" was one of my favs replaced with StumbleBar and now is either a huge blob in the corner of the screen or in classic mode it is a massive toolbar whereas It used to be a few buttons on the menu bar. The reason for this is they are no longer allowed to have their buttons on the menu bar.

"Show Me More", "RightToClick", "Thumbs" have no equivalent extension that I could find. There were more that I did find replacements and some that I could not replace but did not use enough to worry about but what a huge pain in the butt.

@jscher2000 "StumbleUpon" was one of my favs replaced with StumbleBar and now is either a huge blob in the corner of the screen or in classic mode it is a massive toolbar whereas It used to be a few buttons on the menu bar. The reason for this is they are no longer allowed to have their buttons on the menu bar. "Show Me More", "RightToClick", "Thumbs" have no equivalent extension that I could find. There were more that I did find replacements and some that I could not replace but did not use enough to worry about but what a huge pain in the butt.
richardnpaul 2 solutions 10 answers

@Stuhero Basilisk Browser is being updated and is based on pre-quantum Firefox codebase from Palemoon. https://www.basilisk-browser.org/

Don't listen to the likes of @the-edmeister and @WestEnd the Mozilla developers decided that they no longer wanted the effort of supporting a complex and flexible eco-system of addons that allowed for power users to use a browser in a way which made the most effective use of their time in front of a web browser. So no, you won't find replacements a lot of the time, because it's no longer possible to do what you could anymore, and those plugins which did make the migration have all without exception lost some kind of functionality in the transition. You don't hear Mozilla saying that it would have been impossible to rebuild the addons system which would have retained the flexibility and functionality of the old addons system. They chose not to and that's where we're now at.

@Stuhero Basilisk Browser is being updated and is based on pre-quantum Firefox codebase from Palemoon. [https://www.basilisk-browser.org/ https://www.basilisk-browser.org/] Don't listen to the likes of @the-edmeister and @WestEnd the Mozilla developers decided that they no longer wanted the effort of supporting a complex and flexible eco-system of addons that allowed for power users to use a browser in a way which made the most effective use of their time in front of a web browser. So no, you won't find replacements a lot of the time, because it's no longer possible to do what you could anymore, and those plugins which did make the migration have all without exception lost some kind of functionality in the transition. You don't hear Mozilla saying that it would have been impossible to rebuild the addons system which would have retained the flexibility and functionality of the old addons system. They chose not to and that's where we're now at.

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Thanks @richandnpaul! that was the first truly useful comment I received.

Thanks @richandnpaul! that was the first truly useful comment I received.
James
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https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2017/09/28/webextensions-in-firefox-57/ https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2017/11/20/extensions-in-firefox-58/ https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/7dxmu4/why_firefox_had_to_kill_your_favorite_extension/

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''James [[#answer-1071241|said]]'' <blockquote> https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2017/09/28/webextensions-in-firefox-57/ https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2017/11/20/extensions-in-firefox-58/ https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/7dxmu4/why_firefox_had_to_kill_your_favorite_extension/ </blockquote> Thanks this was very educational but the answer to my question is still Basilisk.