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how can I get the curvy tabs back? (58 beta)

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I don't like the new version of Thunderbird, 58.0. I want my old curvy tabs back.

Modified by Wayne Mery

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In firefox they were removed for a variety of reasons (I prefer them myself). Because they have been removed from the core product, I don't expect Thunderbird will be able to bring them back.

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I downloaded version 57.0 and the square tabs are still there. How can I get my curvy tabs back in the older version that unsed to have the curvy tabs?

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Version 52.5 is the latest general release. I have not upgraded to that from 52.4 so I cannot say what shape the tabs are in the newest one. 52.4 still has curved tab edges.

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Thanks, I changed back to that version and turned off automatic updates. I hope you guys change your mind about the curvy tabs. Thanks for everything that you do!

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You shouldn't turn off automatic updates.

a) With updates off you won't be getting security fixes.

b) the square tabs change won't hit the release until mid next year - and by then it might be improved

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I was able to use userChrome.css in FireFox to restore my Aero tabs to that product... I have been unable to replicate it in Thunderbird...

in Firefox use about:support then open the Profile folder and there should be a Chrome directory, if not you can create it...

userChrome.css is the file you make inside of the directory:

Here is a link to my userChrome file

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lz7wjrext9krdpn/userChrome.zip?dl=0

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Wayne Mery said

You shouldn't turn off automatic updates. a) With updates off you won't be getting security fixes. b) the square tabs change won't hit the release until mid next year - and by then it might be improved

But if I update, I'll get the version with the square tabs...?

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You are on version 52. Version 52 is going to get approximately 5 more updates until square tabs hit.

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Stumann666 said

Wayne Mery said
You shouldn't turn off automatic updates. a) With updates off you won't be getting security fixes. b) the square tabs change won't hit the release until mid next year - and by then it might be improved

But if I update, I'll get the version with the square tabs...?

In theory, yes... at the moment it appears to only be in the Beta channel but I have frequently used the option to turn off updates to avoid the stupidity of programmers who like change for the sake of change... With Thunderbird I would be far less concerned about the "security" fixes than with Firefox however.

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Well, most changes are born of necessity, not "stupidity" nor mere convenience or whim. And it is mostly volunteers keeping this updated for you.

As for security, you will be very unhappy with Thunderbird folks on the day that you get a zero day exploit - and past experience (*you* don't see exploits) is no guarantee of future performance (*you* get hit with one). And in fact, the next 52 update is going to have many security updates.

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As true as it may be that "most changes are born of necessity," cosmetic changes are not "Necessity" ever...

I run Beta because I want to unfix the fixes that are born of stupidity before they become a general problem... hence the userChrome.css for Firefox to restore aero tabs... unfortunately I have been unable to replicate this success in Thunderbird.

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No, UI changes are NOT always mere cosmetic. There are reasons why they changed it. Please read the bug report that made the change.

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It'd be a great idea when referencing reports, articles or other external resources if you would be so kind as to supply a link to them.

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https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1387877 which derived from https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1349555 which (in part) implemented Firefox's photon refresh. To a some degree, photon was done to match Windows 10 and other modern OS UI - which is a typical action to keep a product fresh and relevant. Not so evident, it fixes (removes if you wish) issues relelated to curved tabs which were buggy and a maintenance liability - iirc blogged somewhere, I no longer remember where.

In any event, Thunderbird has no choice but to follow Firefox's lead - we do not have the manpower to maintain old Firefox code, which they will eventually remove by their choice. You may wish it to be different, but it is not possible.

Modified by Wayne Mery

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Hence the need for the CSS support... I have the CSS scripted and running to add back the aero tabs... I'm about halfway through coding the CSS for thunderbird's beta ... I hope to have it functional by the time the actual release is out...

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That would be great. I'm sure some people would appreciate it. You can post the workaround(s) in the Thunderbird bug report, or blog about it.

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Wayne Mery said

You shouldn't turn off automatic updates. a) With updates off you won't be getting security fixes. b) the square tabs change won't hit the release until mid next year - and by then it might be improved

I don't understand. Automatic updates is how I ended up with version 58 with the square tabs. I didn't choose that on my own.

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It is possible that in the past you have requested to have a beta version and are thus on the beta channel for downloads. You could undo this by downloading the latest official release, then uninstalling the current beta and reinstalling the official release version.