create mozilla login
Like a whole host of other people, I found it near impossible to create a MOZILLA account. Don't Mozilla want any more new accounts ?
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Many thanks to you kind folk for your advice. It was about 10 years before I learned about <save as>, now I find there are other methods, particularly for editing the email subject. I will investigate the links provided.
After doing a <save as>, changing the title and filing in the directory of my choosing, Thunderbird opens it easily (and all the files previously so created using Outlook Express). I prefer NOT to have my emails stored in the MAIL database, but rather in a folder alongside the Excel, Word, JPG etc files to which they refer. My transition to Thunderbird is now complete and the transition to Outlook thus avoided.
On the backup front, my resident expert has created weekly automated SYSTEM and DATA backups using PARAGON, such that I can restore an image or file at any time, with backup copies stored on a portable HDD.
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What is this "mozilla login" to be used for? You have clearly managed to set one up for this forum. What else are you looking for?
The point is that anyone who wishes to join the Mozilla community has to create a new problem to create a new account. The problem, for example, might be "how do you create a new account" and by creating this problem, you also create a new account !. Most web sites offer a much simpler solution - alongside the LOGIN option, there is also an option to CREATE NEW ACCOUNT (or similar).
What's the advantage of logging in, if you don't actually need or want to pose a question? I suppose you might feel you could answer an existing question, in which case, yes, it would seem perverse to have to start by asking one of your own.
It's been a long time since I joined this forum and TBH I can't remember any details of the signing up process. I guess I'll have to go through the motions to understand your experience. But oddly enough, if I come here from the "wrong" direction I hit a page where I'm invited to sign up and volunteer to help. Maybe that page needs to be made more discoverable.
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/
But, yes, I don't see any specific link for signing up. Hmm.
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My starting point was that if I changed from OUTLOOK EXPRESS to THUNDERBIRD, would all the features I used still be available, particularly <save as> ?. A web search bought up a promising reply, so I thought I would ask the person who added the post. It seemed that to do this, I had to join the Mozilla community, which started a massively confusing chain of events - confusing for a 'senior net' person like me anyway. As you note, I finally made it, the problem now being to get back to wherever I was when it all started. No use me volunteering to help unless you are working on a "Mozilla for Dummies" help page. I would be the perfect subject for that !
I would agree with your observation that it is difficult in this forum to find a particular posting.
Email clients are both alike and different. They all retrieve and send mail and allow you to store messages. They all tend to look rather like one another. That's the lumpers' take on it. Splitters would point to the differences, which are in the details of how various email clients do things, and these little differences seem to be what cause most aggravation to users changing from one client to another.
Yes, Thunderbird has a "save as" option, though it may not do exactly what you are accustomed to. I'd ask what you use it for, since for myself, I find very little value in saving email messages outside the email client environment.
When users do ask for advice on how to perform unusual or unconventional activities, it often helps to explore what they want from the program, as there may be an alternative that hadn't occurred to them, or they may be struggling due to an unusual perception of how things work.
<save as> enables you to add a useful title to an email you want to save long term, bypassing the usually vague titles people use, ie 'Mozilla Stuff' becomes 'Thunderbird -save as- help'. It can also be saved to a useful directory (sorry - folder !) such as 'Mozilla' and easily located with Windows Explorer and thus can be deleted from email. People under 70 may have different ideas, but us XTREE dinosaurs like to control our lives in a way we love and understand. Fortunately even Windows 10 can be made to look a bit like XP, so all is not lost.
re ; how to sign in for the first time, if you want to 'respond' to a question rather than 'ask' a question.
It is not always so obvious, although all the links are actually there. Usually, when someone has a problem, they ask a question if they cannot locate an already solved solution. This is because each person may have a slightly different senario or the original question may have since been resolved due to an update etc.
Otherwise, people logon to help with answering questions, so they are volunteering to help mozilla support. However, I can understand your situation.
Someone else asked this and I posted the info located at the following link. So, if anyone else locates this, here is some help:
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Many thanks to you kind folk for your advice. It was about 10 years before I learned about <save as>, now I find there are other methods, particularly for editing the email subject. I will investigate the links provided.
After doing a <save as>, changing the title and filing in the directory of my choosing, Thunderbird opens it easily (and all the files previously so created using Outlook Express). I prefer NOT to have my emails stored in the MAIL database, but rather in a folder alongside the Excel, Word, JPG etc files to which they refer. My transition to Thunderbird is now complete and the transition to Outlook thus avoided.
On the backup front, my resident expert has created weekly automated SYSTEM and DATA backups using PARAGON, such that I can restore an image or file at any time, with backup copies stored on a portable HDD.