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  1. Michael Verdi 1755 posts
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    Hi Andrew,
    Thanks for taking this article on. It's one of our most important Android articles. Everyone wants to know if Firefox will work on their device and they come to support to find out.

    There are few things we can do to make this article better while we're working on updating it. The first thing we can do is move the list of devices into templates. This idea was proposed by underpass, our Italian locale leader. This is awesome because it will make keeping this article up to date easy for our localizers. Right now, every time we add something to the list, every locale has to add those items to their version of the article. And since they are device names they don't get translated (check out the Italian version for example).

    So if we put all of the device lists into templates and then we update the templates, the changes will show up automatically in the localized versions of the article. This is ok since the information doesn't need to be translated.

    In addition, we can break the lists up by manufacturer so that someone can jump right to that section from the table of contents. I've done the first one so you can see how it's done. Also, check out the documentation on templates.

    To continue where I left off, be sure to base your revision on mine by clicking the pencil next to my revision in the history view.

    Note: When creating the templates, be sure to uncheck the box labeled "Allow Translations" so that nobody accidentally translates these.

    Hi Andrew,<br> Thanks for taking this article on. It's one of our most important Android articles. Everyone wants to know if Firefox will work on their device and they come to support to find out. There are few things we can do to make this article better while we're working on updating it. The first thing we can do is move the list of devices into templates. This idea was [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/will-firefox-work-my-mobile-device/discuss/4673 proposed] by underpass, our Italian locale leader. This is awesome because it will make keeping this article up to date easy for our localizers. Right now, every time we add something to the list, every locale has to add those items to their version of the article. And since they are device names they don't get translated (check out the [https://support.mozilla.org/it/kb/dispositivi-portatili-compatibili Italian version] for example). So if we put all of the device lists into templates and then we update the templates, the changes will show up automatically in the localized versions of the article. This is ok since the information doesn't need to be translated. In addition, we can break the lists up by manufacturer so that someone can jump right to that section from the table of contents. I've done the first one so you can see how it's done. Also, check out the [[How to use Templates|documentation on templates]]. To continue where I left off, [http://people.mozilla.org/~mverdi/screenshots/edit-revision-20130201-150739.jpg be sure to base your revision on mine by clicking the pencil next to my revision in the history view]. '''Note: When creating the templates, be sure to uncheck the box labeled "Allow Translations" so that nobody accidentally translates these.'''
  2. Andrew 958 posts
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    Michael, I edited Will Firefox work on my mobile device? - could you have a look if it's going well? If it's good I'll continue, if not - please suggest the changes. Thanks!

    Michael, I edited [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/will-firefox-work-my-mobile-device/history#preview Will Firefox work on my mobile device?] - could you have a look if it's going well? If it's good I'll continue, if not - please suggest the changes. Thanks!
  3. Michael Verdi 1755 posts
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    Andrew this looks great! Keep going!

    Andrew this looks great! Keep going!
  4. Andrew 958 posts
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    Verdi said

    Andrew this looks great! Keep going!


    Cool! I'm starting on the Tablet section now, can you confirm that what I started on there is good?

    ''Verdi [[#post-7996|said]]'' <blockquote> Andrew this looks great! Keep going! </blockquote> Cool! I'm starting on the Tablet section now, can you confirm that what I started on there is good?
  5. Andrew 958 posts
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    Michael,

    A new template came up from an edition here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/template-phones-lenovo/history

    Should this be added?

    Thanks!

    Michael, A new template came up from an edition here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/template-phones-lenovo/history Should this be added? Thanks!
  6. Michael Verdi 1755 posts
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    Hi Andrew,
    I was thinking about this again yesterday and it occurred to me that we did this the hard way. I think we can actually put all the phones into one template and all the tablets into another template. That would still make it easy for localizers and it would make it much easier to maintain in English. I created a new revision that put all the phones into one template. Check it out and do the same thing with the tablets.

    Sorry for the extra work.
    - Michael

    Hi Andrew,<br> I was thinking about this again yesterday and it occurred to me that we did this the hard way. I think we can actually put all the phones into one template and all the tablets into another template. That would still make it easy for localizers and it would make it much easier to maintain in English. I created a [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/will-firefox-work-my-mobile-device/revision/36184 new revision that put all the phones into one template]. Check it out and do the same thing with the tablets. Sorry for the extra work.<br> - Michael
  7. Andrew 958 posts
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    I made the finishing templates for the tablets and the Nokia's.. Michael, hopefully it meets your expectations. Thanks!

    I made the finishing templates for the tablets and the Nokia's.. Michael, hopefully it meets your expectations. Thanks!
  8. Michael Verdi 1755 posts
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    Hi Andrew,
    This is looking pretty good! There are a few more things to take care of in this article but I'm going to let Roland handle this one from here since he is the Android support coordinator.

    Hi Andrew,<br> This is looking pretty good! There are a few more things to take care of in this article but I'm going to let [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/user/130833 Roland] handle this one from here since he is the Android support coordinator.
  9. Roland Tanglao 152 posts
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    Hi Andrew:

    Looking great! Sorry for the late feedback but I was on holiday yesterday (Family Day in Vancouver, Canada)

    Please:

    1. Please delete the Nokia section (Michael and I don't think we should be mentioning this since we don't officially support it and I am not sure what version of FF works on Maemo anymore and if the current Maemo version is up to date with security fixes).

    2. Please delete system requirements (ARMv6, ARMv7, minimum display resoultion, vivate GPU, etc) and replace with a link to: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/mobile/platforms/ which has the same information

    Once you have done that, I think we are done with this article.

    After we are done with the article, I will take a quick look at SupportJakeH's revision: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/will-firefox-work-my-mobile-device/compare?locale=en-US&to=36399&from=36257

    Not sure where he got the notion that the Samsung Galaxy Note II is a supported device. I think SupportJakeH is right and that it's supported but I will double check with QA; I found another device Android compatibility spreadsheet at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?authkey=CPiPp9IK&key=0AhE7m4JB2j6tdEJFZ3NoZkRoRTM3TTRpQll3UjZLYnc&authkey=CPiPp9IK#gid=3

    and if the Galaxy Note II is indeed supported, I will add it to:

    https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/templatetestedtablets

    Luckily since tested tablets and phones are now templates and these templates don't require localization, adding devices to the templates for tablets and phones doesn't require localization.

    Hi Andrew: Looking great! Sorry for the late feedback but I was on holiday yesterday (Family Day in Vancouver, Canada) Please: 1. Please delete the Nokia section (Michael and I don't think we should be mentioning this since we don't officially support it and I am not sure what version of FF works on Maemo anymore and if the current Maemo version is up to date with security fixes). 2. Please delete system requirements (ARMv6, ARMv7, minimum display resoultion, vivate GPU, etc) and replace with a link to: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/mobile/platforms/ which has the same information Once you have done that, I think we are done with this article. After we are done with the article, I will take a quick look at SupportJakeH's revision: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/will-firefox-work-my-mobile-device/compare?locale=en-US&to=36399&from=36257 Not sure where he got the notion that the Samsung Galaxy Note II is a supported device. I think SupportJakeH is right and that it's supported but I will double check with QA; I found another device Android compatibility spreadsheet at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?authkey=CPiPp9IK&key=0AhE7m4JB2j6tdEJFZ3NoZkRoRTM3TTRpQll3UjZLYnc&authkey=CPiPp9IK#gid=3 and if the Galaxy Note II is indeed supported, I will add it to: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/templatetestedtablets Luckily since tested tablets and phones are now templates and these templates don't require localization, adding devices to the templates for tablets and phones doesn't require localization.
  10. Andrew 958 posts
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    Hi Roland,

    I have edited out the Nokia phones, fixed a typo and added a get help section. The spreadsheet you provided seems like more back breaking work..

    Anyways, we still have time before fx 19 is released.

    Take care!

    Andrew

    Hi Roland, I have edited out the Nokia phones, fixed a typo and added a get help section. The spreadsheet you provided seems like more back breaking work.. Anyways, we still have time before fx 19 is released. Take care! Andrew
  11. Roland Tanglao 152 posts
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    Hi Andrew:

    Thanks again for working so fast!

    Final Nit picking edits before I approve (which are probably my fault since I gave you a link with the locale, "en-US" in it; you never know we might localize these pages in the future).

    Remove the locale from links please:

    1. Please change: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/new/mobile
    TO
    https://support.mozilla.org/questions/new/mobile

    and

    2. Please change https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/mobile/platforms/ to: https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/mobile/platforms/

    Also the sentence: " Please see the system requirements that are listed mobile requirements page. " has a typo, right? I think it should say something like " Please see the system requirements that are listed on the mobile requirements page."

    Finally I agree that that spreadsheet is a bit of a hard slog; I will worry about it; you don't have to. I suspect it's a bit out of date; I will ping QA about it.

    Hi Andrew: Thanks again for working so fast! Final Nit picking edits before I approve (which are probably my fault since I gave you a link with the locale, "en-US" in it; you never know we might localize these pages in the future). Remove the locale from links please: 1. Please change: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/new/mobile<br /> TO<br/> https://support.mozilla.org/questions/new/mobile and 2. Please change https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/mobile/platforms/ to: https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/mobile/platforms/ Also the sentence: " Please see the system requirements that are listed mobile requirements page. " has a typo, right? I think it should say something like " Please see the system requirements that are listed on the mobile requirements page." Finally I agree that that spreadsheet is a bit of a hard slog; I will worry about it; you don't have to. I suspect it's a bit out of date; I will ping QA about it.
  12. Andrew 958 posts
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    Roland,

    I forgot to proof read - my bad. Anyways, I got it fixed and family day for us is the coming up Monday. :)

    Also, I can help with some of the stuff on the spreadsheet once you get it clarified - keep me informed!

    Thanks!

    Take care!

    Roland, I forgot to proof read - my bad. Anyways, I got it fixed and family day for us is the coming up Monday. :) Also, I can help with some of the stuff on the spreadsheet once you get it clarified - keep me informed! Thanks! Take care!
  13. Michael Verdi 1755 posts
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    We're almost done! Here are some tiny things to simplify:

    • System requirements section - move it above the TOC and instead of linking to that other page (people don't need to go there if they are already here) just copy the requirements over here. Specifically: "Firefox is compatible with Android 2.2 and above devices. Installation requires about 16 MB internal storage and 512 MB of RAM"
      • Roland is that page out of date? Isn't the ram requirement less now?
    • Section titles - "Supported Phones" and "Supported Tablets" or "Tested Phones" and "Tested Tablets" is fine. Saying both supported and tested is unnecessary because it's a bit redundant at least from a user's point of view.
    • Other Operating Systems section - remove "For details, see the Firefox Mobile Platforms page." That page is out of date and doesn't look like it's being maintained anymore.
    • Remove the "How To Get Help With Firefox for Android" section. We have a link to ask a question on every page of this site.

    Also, FYI, I just added a revision that adds a note to the top of the article about compatibility. The system requirements section should go above that.

    We're almost done! Here are some tiny things to simplify: * System requirements section - move it above the TOC and instead of linking to that other page (people don't need to go there if they are already here) just copy the requirements over here. Specifically: "Firefox is compatible with Android 2.2 and above devices. Installation requires about 16 MB internal storage and 512 MB of RAM" **'''Roland is [https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/mobile/platforms/ that page] out of date? Isn't the ram requirement less now?''' *Section titles - "Supported Phones" and "Supported Tablets" or "Tested Phones" and "Tested Tablets" is fine. Saying both supported and tested is unnecessary because it's a bit redundant at least from a user's point of view. *Other Operating Systems section - remove "For details, see the Firefox Mobile Platforms page." That page is out of date and doesn't look like it's being maintained anymore. *Remove the "How To Get Help With Firefox for Android" section. We have a link to ask a question on every page of this site. Also, FYI, I just added a revision that adds a note to the top of the article about compatibility. The system requirements section should go above that.
  14. Roland Tanglao 152 posts
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    Verdi said

      • Roland is that page out of date? Isn't the ram requirement less now?

    Michael: Yeah that page could be out of date, I'll ask QA.

    Firefox 19 still requires 512MB RAM:

    https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Fx19_PRD#ARMv6_expanded_support:_600MHz.2C_512MB.2C_HVGA

    Firefox 20 will work with 384 MB RAM:

    https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Fx20_PRD#ARMv6_expanded_support:_600MHz.2C_384MB.2C_QVGA

    ''Verdi [[#post-8062|said]]'' <blockquote> **'''Roland is [https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/mobile/platforms/ that page] out of date? Isn't the ram requirement less now?''' </blockquote> Michael: Yeah that page could be out of date, I'll ask QA. Firefox 19 still requires 512MB RAM: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Fx19_PRD#ARMv6_expanded_support:_600MHz.2C_512MB.2C_HVGA Firefox 20 will work with 384 MB RAM: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Fx20_PRD#ARMv6_expanded_support:_600MHz.2C_384MB.2C_QVGA
  15. Andrew 958 posts
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    Michael,

    Did you want me to make the changes suggested?

    Andrew

    Michael, Did you want me to make the changes suggested? Andrew
  16. Michael Verdi 1755 posts
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    feer56 said

    Michael, Did you want me to make the changes suggested? Andrew

    Yes please!

    ''feer56 [[#post-8067|said]]'' <blockquote> Michael, Did you want me to make the changes suggested? Andrew </blockquote> Yes please!
  17. Andrew 958 posts
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    Okay! Will do tonight.

    Okay! Will do tonight.
  18. Andrew 958 posts
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    I'm not sure if the edits I made are good but please do have a look!

    I'm not sure if the edits I made are good but please do have a look!
  19. Michael Verdi 1755 posts
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    Thanks Andrew,
    I made another edit to clean up extraneous information.

    Roland what do you think? Ship it?

    Thanks Andrew,<br> I made another edit to clean up extraneous information. Roland what do you think? Ship it?
  20. Roland Tanglao 152 posts
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    hi andrew, thanks! i will check it one last time and ship it! thanks to andrew and michael!

    hi andrew, thanks! i will check it one last time and ship it! thanks to andrew and michael!
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